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post #76 of 233
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Originally Posted by Bill Ward
Ordered the Maazel/London/VPO. I can't stand the sleepless nights wondering if I'm really missing something good.

But it stops here!

BW
I can stop any time I want!!! Honest!
post #77 of 233
Well, I listened to each again last night and have placed them in order of preference. Have to avoid overlistening here. Needed some Sonic Youth Daydream Nation to settle me down.

No. 1
Vanska/Lahti Symphony Orchestra Much quicker paced. Spirited. Like having the strings, percussives, horns dancing in unison around the reading. Great balance and flow. Can't say enough. This is wonderful!!!
Ormandy/Philadelphia Ormandy seems to really know his way around Sibelius. Both this and a disc of Sibelius orchestral works by Ormandy are both fantastic. Like Vanska, very cohesive with great flow to the piece.
Sakari/Iceland Symphony
Sagerstam/HelsinkiSakari/Iceland Symphony
These two are tied. Both will have fans. I think I liked the Sakari better than Dark Angel. In my short listening, I found the quiet, slow passages to be very nice work. The problem for me came when the work calls for dynamic changes. When shifting from quieter to louder passages, the orchestra didn't quite seem to open up enough. With Sagerstam, my major flaw would be that, at times, the strings sound too Romantic to the point of sounding overly sweet. You'd have to listen to understand what I mean.



No. 3
Davis/Boston
Sakari/Iceland Symphony

First off, I think both of these are excellent. The Davis has this kind of dark, underlying tension that I find very addictive.
post #78 of 233
I got my hands on a set with Sibelius' symphonies....solit Kamu and Karajan. Was at the library so I grabbed it.

Scott
post #79 of 233
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Originally Posted by scottder
I got my hands on a set with Sibelius' symphonies....solit Kamu and Karajan. Was at the library so I grabbed it.
Scott
Is that the DG Trio set?
Kamu 1,2,3
Karajan 4,5,6,7
post #80 of 233
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Originally Posted by DarkAngel
Is that the DG Trio set?
Kamu 1,2,3
Karajan 4,5,6,7
That's the one....
post #81 of 233

Maazel/Sibelius arrived!

I've not had much chance to give it a serious listen (We have roofers this week. ) What I've heard impresses me. The sound is remarkable for the vintage, and the performances live up to the billing. This is the way Sibelius should sound IMO. (I hate it when I gush, but the set's really that good. The price I got wasn't bad either.)

DA, why don't you just post a list of your recommended classical CD recordings? No, on second thought, don't. I'd miss these discussion threads, and with such a list in hand I'd have nothing left to discuss.

But it still stops here.

BW
post #82 of 233
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Originally Posted by Bill Ward
I've not had much chance to give it a serious listen (We have roofers this week. ) What I've heard impresses me. The sound is remarkable for the vintage, and the performances live up to the billing. This is the way Sibelius should sound IMO. (I hate it when I gush, but the set's really that good. The price I got wasn't bad either.)
BW
Surprising that the Maazel/London set is hardly ever mentioned by professional reviewers as reference set.......mostly they like Ashkenazy and Davis.

Ah yes the 1960 London sound is better than many modern recordings, and Maazel takes full advantage of it. Wonder if this is same recording team that did Solti/London Wagner Ring cycle around the same time?
post #83 of 233
Musn't....give....in......to.....temptation.....
post #84 of 233
I've seen mention of the Bernstein/NYPO, what about the Bernstein/VPO?

Scott
post #85 of 233
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Originally Posted by scottder
I've seen mention of the Bernstein/NYPO, what about the Bernstein/VPO?

Scott
I only have one Bernstein with NYPO, the No. 5. I think it is sensational, but prefer the Berglund. Bernstein is more dramatic and always seems ready to let loose with climactic attacks, especially with the horns. Berglund is more reserved, but in a way, very majestic. It seems to build more to its peaks in a more flowing way. Either are quite good imo. Until I receive the Maazel, those are the only two fives I have.
post #86 of 233
Vanska/Lahti Symphony Orchestra
Berglund/Helsinki
Davis/Boston


As for the No. 6, of the three I have, I can't make a decision on which is best. All three seem to capture the spirit of Sibelius as so nicely stated by Tyson. I put them in the above order because that's my personal preference, but it changes all the time.

Thus far though, Vanska has turned out to be my favorite conductor of Sibelius. Very nice musical quality to the recordings themselves as well.

Once again, haven't received my Maazel No. 6 yet though.

One more thing, I slightly prefer the Vanska Tapiola to the Maazel, although both are close. I will say that sonic quality is of utmost importance on this piece. The other Tapiola I own pales in comparison to these two, imho. Be forewarned though that, at one point between the 14 and 15 minute mark, sound stops like the recording has completed. It hasn't. One reviewer felt this was intentional by the engineers at BIS and likened it to standing alone in the middle of the forest.
post #87 of 233
Hey Scott + Danaa
Don't deny yourself any longer......you can get used Maazel/London complete set at Amazon for only $12.50

Maazel


Also to answer Scott's question about Bernstein Sony vs DG versions, I haven't heard the DG Sibelius set but from past experience with other composers I usually prefer the older Sony NYPO versions. The DG set just released for sale with VPO is not complete, only has 4 symphonies:

Bernstein/DG/VPO
post #88 of 233
Ok DA, you broke down my last bit of willpower, I hope you're happy! I ordered that set, good deal....

Scott
post #89 of 233
I'm pretty set right now, DA, with my Sibelius symphonies. As for Maazel, I have 4, 7, and Tapiola in hand with 5 and 6 on the way.
post #90 of 233

I have to ask . . .

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Originally Posted by DarkAngel
Hey Scott + Danaa
Don't deny yourself any longer......you can get used Maazel/London complete set at Amazon for only $12.50
DA, are you familiar with "The Dark Angel," a poem by Lionel Johnson? I ask because this stanza keeps echoing in my mind.

When music sounds, then changest thou
Its silvery to a sultry fire:
Nor will thine envious heart allow
Delight untortured by desire.

What better description of the Tempter?

BW
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