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post #16 of 233
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Originally Posted by daycart1
What about other Sibelius?
Some other Sibelius recordings I can easily recommend:
  • Songs with Anne Sofie von Otter and Bengt Forsberg
  • String Quartet op. 56 ("Voces intimae") with the New Helsinki Quartet
  • Piano works with Olli Mustonen
post #17 of 233
Here's the list of my symphonic Sibelius:

No. 1
Vanska/Lahti Symphony Orchestra
Sakari/Iceland Symphony
Ormandy/Philadelphia
Sagerstam/Helsinki

No. 2
Szell/Concertgeboul Orchestra Amsterdam
Barbirolli/Royal Philharmonic - the 1962 version on Chesky)

No. 3
Sakari/Iceland Symphony
Davis/Boston

No. 4
Vanska/Lahti Symphony Orchestra
Maazel/Vienna

No. 5
Maazel/Vienna
Berglund/Helsinki
Bernstein/New York

No. 6
Vanska/Lahti Symphony Orchestra
Maazel/Vienna
Berglund/Helsinki
Davis/Boston

No. 7
Vanska/Lahti Symphony Orchestra
Maazel/Vienna
Davis/Boston
Sagerstam/Helsinki
post #18 of 233
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Originally Posted by danaa
After reading the discussions here and at another board, I decided I might as well take the plunge and own a complete Sibelius cycle. Did quite a bit of reading all over the place before making my decisions, but availability and not wanting to duplicate all over the place altered them a bit. Still, looking forward to hear the entire cycle.

Here's the list with the ones I already own in parenthesis:

1. Ormandy/Philadelphia (Sagerstam/Helsinki)

2. (Barbirolli/Royal Philharmonic - the 1962 version on Chesky)

3. Davis/Boston

4. Maazel/Vienna cause M would murder me if I didn't

5. Berglund/Helsinki, Bernstein/New York

6. Berglund/Helsinki, Davis/Boston

7. Maazel/Vienna, Davis/Boston (Sagerstam/Helsinki)
Good, let us know when you get each CD and what you think. Do you like all Sibelius symphonies equally or like me prefer the early ones much more?

I have no Berglund but believe he has at least three sets of Sibelius out there, Helsinki being his 1980's digital set for EMI........He has a newer set currently with small label Finlandia:

Berglund

Hey Dana:
Where is that forum you posted about classical music again?
post #19 of 233
It's Good Music Guide . I'm just a learner over there, but have seen quite a few from this site posting at both places. Usually, I just read what they have to say and it gets me into the exploration mood. Some very knowledgable posters there. You'd enjoy it a lot I think.

As for which I like most between the earlier and the latter, I don't really know as all I can recall hearing is the 1, 2 and 7. In a way, I think I'm looking for that feeling indicated by Tyson of standing in a static reality. That, I suppose, would be the Davis with the Boston. But, I'm also quite intrigued by how Bernstein and Maazel approach Sibelius.
post #20 of 233
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Originally Posted by danaa
It's Good Music Guide . I'm just a learner over there, but have seen quite a few from this site posting at both places. Usually, I just read what they have to say and it gets me into the exploration mood. Some very knowledgable posters there. You'd enjoy it a lot I think.
Someone pointed me to that forum as well, lots of good discussions going on there.
post #21 of 233
I'm surprised no one's mentioned Bernstein and Koussevitsky (if you can deal with bad sound). An out-of-print Salonen recording of the 5th on CBS/Sony Classical is also very interesting for its very grand, slow performance.

--Andre
post #22 of 233
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Originally Posted by AndreYew
I'm surprised no one's mentioned Bernstein and Koussevitsky (if you can deal with bad sound). An out-of-print Salonen recording of the 5th on CBS/Sony Classical is also very interesting for its very grand, slow performance.

--Andre
I'm very fond of the early Bernstein/NYPO set, he also made some Sibelius recordings later on for DG which I've not heard. The Koussevitsky was much admired in its day, but the sound is really not very good.
post #23 of 233
What would you reccomend as a good recording of his 2nd? I have the Davis and the Gibson, and somewhere I think I might have another. I very much enjoy the Gibson, but Davis seems to speed over the fantasic dramatic pauses that are in the 2nd movement. Gibson, however, waits a beat for the pauses, much increasing the drama. How would you say Ashkenazy or Vanska compare to Gibson, or Davis? After reading this thread, I might want to add another to the collection.
post #24 of 233
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Originally Posted by Voidoid-Surreal
After reading this thread, I might want to add another to the collection.
Not sure if anyone has formally welcomed you to Head-Fi, the tradition is "Welcome to Head-Fi, sorry about your wallet!"

Scott
post #25 of 233
Thanks! I decided to finally break down and buy a new pair of headphones, but I was overwhelmed until I found this site. It's quite a community you all have here! I went with the Grado SR-225's (mainly because of how much I listen to rock, and it's derivitives) and they just arrived this morning. Boy am I pleased! I see what you mean about the wallet, though. I'm afraid the headphone bug has bit...
post #26 of 233
Sigh....yet another Head-Fi thread that has depleted my wallet. At least I got away for less than a double sawbuck. I just bought the Maazel/London VPO set, new, off half.com.

I'll post my impressions once I've listened to it.

...seems like an awful lot of trouble just to vibrate some air.

-Z
post #27 of 233
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Originally Posted by Zurg
Sigh....yet another Head-Fi thread that has depleted my wallet. At least I got away for less than a double sawbuck. I just bought the Maazel/London VPO set, new, off half.com.

I'll post my impressions once I've listened to it.

...seems like an awful lot of trouble just to vibrate some air.
-Z
What Sibelius do you have now or is this your first purchase?
post #28 of 233
One thing is that, due to the relative brevity of his symphonies, when compared to composers like Bruckner and Mahler, it is pretty inexpensive for a cycle. I bought nine symphonies plus assorted other Sibelius works for about $40 shipped and I wasn't even shopping around for price. Factor in that I was being pretty choosy and selective.

But............................................... ..................the amount of money I've spent this last year is obscene.
post #29 of 233
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Originally Posted by DarkAngel
What Sibelius do you have now or is this your first purchase?
This is my first Sibelius purchase on CD. Many many years ago I had a few Sibelius albums on vinyl but they have long since been lost. Currently, I am re-listening to all my symphony collections, (I have a comparatively modest library). I am currently finishing up the complete Mozart symphonies (Marriner/Krips). I thought it would be nice to try something new, and this discussion sparked my interest. I have good, but indistinct, memories of the Sibelius I have heard so I thought I would make the jump to something a bit new and different. Any other recommendations are, of course, welcome.

-Z
post #30 of 233
Started receiving some of my Sibelius discs today and want to offer some initial impressions of the differences between the No. 6 with Davis conducting the Boston and the No. 6 with Berglund conducting the Helsinki.

Please note that I have some, but not a huge amount, of history with this composer, so I'm no authority by any means.

Both versions are, imo, outstanding. I originally ordered the Davis due to a lot of reading I had been doing on his Sibelius interpretations, but some on the other board suggested that, while Davis is very good, they felt Berglund's No. 6 was better and, although very close, I'd also give the tip of the hat in Berglund's direction.

Berglund seems to lead a more organic approach as if different orchestral sections were really part of a whole, whereas different sections seem to play off of each other more with Davis. Note: When I say organic here, I think I'm referring to something different than Tyson was referring to. Both seem to hold that quality of not moving forward. The whole composition breaks with classic structure, especially in the final movement, which doesn't build to any great crescendos, but continues rather quietly to evolve from what came before. Neither seems emotionally detached, but, by the same token, neither seems intent on flooding the work emotionally. I guess this is what people mean by a stark picture of what's going on. The Davis, I suppose because of its quicker tempo (not at all too quick, mind you), seems to have more sustained energy, whereas the Berglund seems quiet and more leisurely until it suddenly leaps to its feet in dynamic spurts. Both are well constrained and don't do what I'd call as overstate or over dramatize the music.

My feelings are that either of these presentations are keepers.
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