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UNFORGIVING SOUND comparison : Sennheiser 558 vs 600

post #1 of 22
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Between two what sounds most unforgiving with lose tracks ?

 

I read the 598 is much more selective / analytic than HD600 ..... the 558 have the same drives ?

The same thing also with 558 ?

post #2 of 22

The HD600 with a half decent amp will outperform the HD598. The 598 is a nice general performer, but it is not more analytical.

 

Back in the day, the 555 and 595 were the same headphone minus some foam in the cup. The 558/598 are very similar, but I don't think you can convert one just by removing the foam.

post #3 of 22
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Originally Posted by paulguru View Post
 

Between two what sounds most unforgiving with lose tracks ?

I read the 598 is much more selective / analytic than HD600 ..... the 558 have the same drives ?

The same thing also with 558 ?

 

I'm really dumb, what is a lose track?

What is the end goal your trying to get?

The HD558 and HD598 both use the same 50-Ohm driver.

I would assume the HD600 would more likely pick up imperfection in the audio.

post #4 of 22
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Originally Posted by PurpleAngel View Post
 

 

I'm really dumb, what is a lose track?

What is the end goal your trying to get?

The HD558 and HD598 both use the same 50-Ohm driver.

I would assume the HD600 would more likely pick up imperfection in the audio.

He may have meant lossy, as in low bitrate mp3. I totally agree, though, hd598s don't touch amped hd600s; they are so much more resolving.

post #5 of 22

I don't think the HD 558 is in the same ballpark as the HD 600.  I have both, and the former just isn't that great.

post #6 of 22
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Originally Posted by paulguru View Post
 

Between two what sounds most unforgiving with lose tracks ?

 

I read the 598 is much more selective / analytic than HD600 ..... the 558 have the same drives ?

The same thing also with 558 ?

How can you compare the two? The HD600 is triple the price of the HD558, and also has much greater demands for power. The HD600 is more than double the price of the HD598 now on Amazon. Why not compare headphones to other models that are close in price, based on actual prices you can buy them for, and not the list prices?

 

The annoying thing about the HD598 is the cable. Why does it have a large plug on it, and come with an adapter to convert it to a mini one? It should be the other way around. There are after market cables that do this, however that is an additional expense. Sennheiser should start selling the HD598 with two cables. A long one with a large plug on it, and a much shorter one with a mini(3.5mm) plug on it.

 

i also don't like the appearance of the HD598. It would be nice if they release a version of it in black.

 

 

http://www.amazon.com/Replacement-Audio-upgrade-Sennheiser-Headphones/dp/B00KAKBHKM/ref=pd_bxgy_23_text_y#Ask


Edited by JK1 - 7/24/15 at 12:44am
post #7 of 22
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Originally Posted by Japheel View Post

He may have meant lossy, as in low bitrate mp3. I totally agree, though, hd598s don't touch amped hd600s; they are so much more resolving.
That's my best guess...

But yeah, a 558 or 598 would be much more forgiving than the HD600. I definitely prefer the HD600 because it sounds better overall, but if you're worried about track imperfections showing up in your music, a 558 or 598 is a much safer bet.
post #8 of 22
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Originally Posted by superjawes View Post


That's my best guess...

But yeah, a 558 or 598 would be much more forgiving than the HD600. I definitely prefer the HD600 because it sounds better overall, but if you're worried about track imperfections showing up in your music, a 558 or 598 is a much safer bet.

i saw in some users feedbacks that the HD600 is much more forgiving than 598


Edited by paulguru - 7/24/15 at 7:13am
post #9 of 22
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Originally Posted by JK1 View Post
 

How can you compare the two? The HD600 is triple the price of the HD558, and also has much greater demands for power. The HD600 is more than double the price of the HD598 now on Amazon. Why not compare headphones to other models that are close in price, based on actual prices you can buy them for, and not the list prices?

 

The annoying thing about the HD598 is the cable. Why does it have a large plug on it, and come with an adapter to convert it to a mini one? It should be the other way around. There are after market cables that do this, however that is an additional expense. Sennheiser should start selling the HD598 with two cables. A long one with a large plug on it, and a much shorter one with a mini(3.5mm) plug on it.

 

i also don't like the appearance of the HD598. It would be nice if they release a version of it in black.

 

 

http://www.amazon.com/Replacement-Audio-upgrade-Sennheiser-Headphones/dp/B00KAKBHKM/ref=pd_bxgy_23_text_y#Ask

im comparing the forgive capability, not the details and quality

post #10 of 22
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Originally Posted by paulguru View Post
 

im comparing the forgive capability, not the details and quality

What format are your files? MP3? What bitrate?

post #11 of 22
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Originally Posted by JK1 View Post
 

What format are your files? MP3? What bitrate?

MP3 320Kbs

post #12 of 22
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Originally Posted by paulguru View Post
 

MP3 320Kbs

At 320kbs MP3 files should sound quite good. I don't know why you are making an issue of that. Using your current headphones, can you tell the difference between 320kbps MP# files and the original CD? I couldn't. I even had trouble differentiating the 256kbps mp3 files from the CD. Going below 256kbps and especially below 192kbps is where people can start to hear the compression artifacts. At 192kbps I couldn't really hear the artifacts, but did notice something was missing from the high end. Of course your ears may be much better than mine, although I did get 4 out of 6 correct on this test. The two I missed, the vocal only track and the classical music track were lacking in high frequencies.

 

http://www.npr.org/sections/therecord/2015/06/09/412271433/audio-quality-quiz-results-you-did-slightly-better-than-guessing-randomly

post #13 of 22
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Originally Posted by paulguru View Post
 

Between two what sounds most unforgiving with lose tracks ?

I read the 598 is much more selective / analytic than HD600 ..... the 558 have the same drives ?

The same thing also with 558 ?

 

Exactly what are the uses for the headphones (music, gaming movies, other)?

The HD558/HD598 are amplifier optional, where as the HD600 really needs to be used with a decent headphone amplifier.

Do you have any DAC or headphone amplifiers?

post #14 of 22
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Originally Posted by paulguru View Post
 

i saw in some users feedbacks that the HD600 is much more forgiving than 598

 

If you're comparing them unamped... then yeah, the HD600 is more forgiving because it doesn't have enough power to actually sound good.

post #15 of 22

Without an amp, the hd558, hd598, and to some extent, the hd 700 all end up sounding terrible due to problems related to high output impedance. Also, since they are more sensitive, you are more likely to hear the noise of noisy amps, so it becomes more important to have a low noise floor.


Edited by mindbomb - 7/24/15 at 12:40pm
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