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post #301 of 944
Beethoven's 6th is my favorite. Of the recordings I've have, I'd only recommend the Norrington and Sony's "Bernstein Century", which has the 6th and 8th recorded in 1963. As for recording quality, with such graces as these two have, who cares?

Norrington's version is special for the care they take in trying to reproduce the original music, such as the smaller orchestra, and period instruments. I especially like the orchestration, which isn't as heavy as many modern versions, and the sixth doesn't need a heavy bow. It's easier to hear the separate instruments, which is especially nice for appreciating the period instruments.

The second movement of the Bernstein probably transcends what Beethoven had in mind. Someone mentioned how Bernstein overdoes things. In this case, the overdone sentimentality is magical. Most other versions make me feel refreshed and restored as if I've just spent the day in the beauty of nature (as opposed to the concrete jungle of NYC), and they have the lulling quality of rocking in a boat, befitting the movement's title "Scene by the Brook". This is basically what I expect from a good pastoral by an independent minded person like Beethoven--to feel a renewed sense of life, beauty, and dignity. In constrast, Bernstein's version (of the second movement) is so beautiful that it's humbling to listen to. It's as if somehow while listening, even this hardened atheist can feel the magnificent beauty--can bask in the sheer ecstasy of just being there in the presence of god. I somehow doubt this was Beethoven's intention, and that may be Bernstein overdoing it, but it's worth the price of admission just for this movement. This doesn't necessarily carry through the rest of the piece, although the same treatment appears here and there in the other movements in some of the variations on the theme.
post #302 of 944
Thread Starter 
You may want to try the Mackerras on the 6th, I find his whole set wonderful, he loses me some on the 9th, but having payed $17 for the whole set, I am very pleased! Sound on the whole set is top notch too.

Scott
post #303 of 944
This one is highly recommended (10/10) at ClassicsToday :

Symphony No. 4 in B-flat Op. 60; Symphony No. 6 in F Op. 68 ("Pastorale")
Heidelberger Sinfoniker, Thomas Fey
Hänssler Classic- 98.396(CD)


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post #305 of 944
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Originally Posted by DarkAngel
DA,
Have you heard any of them? The Vänskä/Minnesota Symphonies 4&5 are also excellent new additions, and they are recorded in SACD/Hybrid with the best sound quality I have yet found for the symphonies. Now, here is another new cycle demanding attention.

Reading all of these reviews, one is tempted to wonder whether Thomas Fey is the new incarnation of the composer. I guess it's another cycle that at least deserves a listen.
post #306 of 944
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Originally Posted by Bunnyears
Reading all of these reviews, one is tempted to wonder whether Thomas Fey is the new incarnation of the composer. I guess it's another cycle that at least deserves a listen.
If he is, perhaps the reincarnated master will be so kind as to make sense of the metronome mess he left modern interpreters. I won't be throwing out my Furtwangler and Karajan quite yet.
post #307 of 944
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Originally Posted by Bunnyears
DA,
Have you heard any of them? The Vänskä/Minnesota Symphonies 4&5 are also excellent new additions, and they are recorded in SACD/Hybrid with the best sound quality I have yet found for the symphonies. Now, here is another new cycle demanding attention.

Reading all of these reviews, one is tempted to wonder whether Thomas Fey is the new incarnation of the composer. I guess it's another cycle that at least deserves a listen.
Too soon for me to jump on the band wagon for these newcomers, perhaps if yourmusic.com carries them I can try one.

I did just get Jochum/DG set from 1950's which has mixed mono/stereo performances. Since these are studio mid 1950's mono sound should be pretty good however......Tower has for 25% off plus I used recent 15% coupon so final price very reasonable.

SiBurning
Have you heard the new Norrington/Hanssler live set? We discussed them here briefly although I have not gone back and done direct comparisons with his original set (too many fish to fry lately)........Bernstein/Sony set also highly regarded by me except for the bizzare treatment of 5th symphony 1st movement.
post #308 of 944
DA,

Yourmusic has some of Fey's highly lauded Haydn recordings which I have ordered. If I like those, then I'll probably start shopping for the Beethoven. I also have read a bit about Fey, who it turns out is one of Harnoncourt's favorite students/protegés. I really like most of what Harnoncourt has done, although I find his Beethoven symphonies extremely uneven. As for the Vänskä, those are really a joy, especially with respect to the sound quality and have become my favorite recording of the B4. His 5th, although a bit different from the Kleiber has grown on me, and I am liking it more and more to the point where I think that it is as good as the Kleiber -- but not better. Now, with all that has happened, the sets that are getting the most play time are the Zinman, the Norrington (instead of the Gardiner which I still adore) and this Vänskä recording, which just fills the room with the most incredibly beautiful sound. I also ordered (used) a complete set of the Hogwood symphonies which are also sounding better and better to my ears these days. I'm going to have to take out his Brandenburgs and Messiah and give them a new listen as well. He has Rousset playing on the Brandenburgs so that is another inducement to listen to them again, though I doubt that they will supplant the Jordi Savall Brandenburgs. those are just too amazingly good.
post #309 of 944
I'm currently on a "historical recordings" jag, and picked up the '42 Furtwangler B9. PSmith, you are right - this is one simply amazing interpretation. The level of tension built up in the first movement is quite unlike anything I've ever heard, and I own or have heard literally dozens of recordings of the Ninth. Of course, it's interesting to speculate on the historical circumstances, but the recording stands on its own merits. (The sound is bad, but not when you compare it to say the 1924 Fried Mahler 2nd - now that's really bad sound!).

Speaking of historical German (Nazi era) recordings, PSmith have you heard the Abendroth 1943 Bayreuth Meistersinger? I have not, but I've heard rumors that it is another legendary, war-infused performance. Do I sense a Wagner thread about to burst forth?
post #310 of 944
Yesterday when I was in the used cd shop, I saw a number of Furtwangler's 1940's recordings, especially the Eroica. any thoughts about that recording?
post #311 of 944
Thread Starter 
Doc, which label did you get the Furtwangler B9 on, seems a few labels carry it.

Scott
post #312 of 944
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Originally Posted by scottder
Doc, which label did you get the Furtwangler B9 on, seems a few labels carry it.

Scott
Here's the one I got.

http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/...album_id=12721
post #313 of 944
Great thread, very informative read but quite long

I just pulled a trigger and ordered a copy of the Karajan Hybrid SACD box set

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...sical&n=507846

Thanks guys
post #314 of 944
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Originally Posted by dariusf
Great thread, very informative read but quite long
Wait till you try the Mahler thread!
post #315 of 944
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dariusf
Great thread, very informative read but quite long

I just pulled a trigger and ordered a copy of the Karajan Hybrid SACD box set

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...sical&n=507846

Thanks guys
One day I may pick that up to have a complete cycle on SACD.
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