|Not to be unappreciative of the help you've offered...
Hmmm. I don't know... Your last post sure seemed pretty unappreciative to me.
|...but it's you who should be giving more evidence of research.
Really? After the condescending and argumentative tone of your last post, I don't think I SHOULD be doing anything! I didn't know I was entering into a debate here. I thought I was just trying to offer some helpful information, but now I'm required to "give more evidence of research"? Maybe I should've listed my qualifications for posting information to this forum and my professional credentials up front...?!
|You've been making a series of claims about what a Nomad Jukebox will and will not do without giving URLs or any other sources for those claims. (You did offer a general site, and you did say I should read the manual, but you indicated no more than that.)
Well, I was trying to help you out, but apparently you don't want to be helped. I gave you information gathered from firsthand experience and I've given you a URL that hosts a forum for hundreds of other NJB users where you can either do a search or post questions. I even suggested that you download the manual, which you say you "scoured," but obviously not in the right places.
|I'm not saying your information is wrong necessarily,...
Necessarily? That one word says it all, doesn't it?
|I'm only pointing out that, until you offer sources -- personal experience or specific web pages on which that info appears -- I can't do anything with it.
What I just can't comprehend is this: you obviously have very little knowledge of the NJB, so why would you just automatically assume that I don't know what I'm talking about and continue to believe that your unfounded assumptions are correct? It seems to me that you're a lot more interested in instigating silly arguments than actually finding out the facts. I own the product. I know the facts. If you don't want to believe me, that's fine, but maybe you could at least try to appreciate the fact that I went out of my way to try to be helpful to you. Insisting that I support my "claims" with evidence before you'll offer me the least bit of credibility is just plain obnoxious. For future reference: don't expect to receive many helpful replies when you adopt that type of attitude. AND, if you intend to be condescending and argumentative, AT LEAST be relatively sure you know what you're talking about!
In the interest of demonstrating how your information-gathering skills just *might* need a bit of honing and how you just *might* want to be a bit more considerate of the help others decide to pass along to you, let me add the following:
|Nowhere in the manual does it say the USB connection can be used both ways. If you can show evidence to the contrary -- and mind you, I'd be happy if you did -- then please do.
Creative PlayCenter 2 allows you to manage the contents on your NOMAD Jukebox:
❑ Play MP3 files on the Jukebox.
❑ View and manage the contents of the NOMAD Jukebox.
❑ Upload non- protected MP3 files and other files to the NOMAD Jukebox.
❑ Download the contents (except protected MP3 files) to the computer.
To transfer files from the Jukebox to your computer:
1. In the My Computer window, open the folder to which you want to copy the file from the Player.
2. Select the file in the Player that you want to copy to your PC’s hard disk (or other destination).
3. Click the Upload button on the NOMAD Jukebox window to copy the file to your PC.
|(I've just looked at your profile and see that you actually own a Nomad. If you yourself have been able to upload files to your CPU via the USB, I'd love to know how.)
Again, you seem to automatically assume that I haven't. Why is that? Please see above, starting with "Page 30:". However, the button in my version of PlayCenter actually reads "Transfer", not "Upload". Anything else you'd "love" to know?
|Language on p.30 (or A-2) of the Jukebox manual suggests the Nomad will rip mp3s at any resolution -- though only the minimum resolution for decent audio is mentioned (128kbps).
Yeah. If you actually read the manual a bit more closely, maybe you would've noticed that this is in reference to the PlayCenter software that is installed on the computer. PlayCenter encodes MP3s; the Jukebox itself does NOT.
Page 23 (in reference to creating/saving/listening to an audio recording on the Jukebox itself):
Use PlayCenter 2 or SoundJam to encode your recording to an MP3 track to reduce its file size or to fill in the track details.
(This takes a bit of deductive reasoning, but if you need to use PlayCenter to encode the audio recording into an MP3 file, it must mean that it's not recorded as an MP3 on the Jukebox.)
|My friend said nothing about the ability to record.
And I said nothing about your friend saying anything about the ability to record. Your friend is mistaken about having "no way to get the recording out of the Nomad digitally." Perhaps he has some very early firmware in his NJB and never bothered to update it. If you require more specifics, please re-read this post starting from "Page 27:".
|If you want to insist that the USB is a two-way connection no matter what source I offer...
What sources are you talking about? The only semi-reliable source you've mentioned is one friend who couldn't seem to get the thing to work. I guess you consider this to be conclusive evidence?
Since you're unwilling to give my own words any consideration OR do your own research--gollee gee, looka here--a couple of quick searches on the www.nomadness.net
NJB forum turned up the following posts:
"Q: I'm seriously considering picking up a Jukebox, but can someone tell me if you can transfer MP3's (and other files for that matter) from PC to Jukebox, and more importantly, from Jukebox to PC?
A: With the latest firmware you can tranfers MP3's, WAV's and WMA's to and from the Jukebox."
(By the way, the firmware that allows this was released in Nov 2000.)
"Also, if you record directly to the NJB the NJB records tracks as multiple files. So it's likely you would then have to transfer several humongus wav files to a PC via USB to stitch these segments together."
"i recorded over 2 hours yesterday (level=0, boost=off @ 44.1khz) and the results were great - no audible noise during quiet parts. it's no big deal that the recordings are broken into 112MB tracks, as the NJB will play them smoothly and they can be linked back up with a basic wave editor."
Conclude what you'd like from all of this, but I'm not gonna argue about it anymore...
P.S. If you had replied in a friendlier manner, I would've done the same.