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post #871 of 4793
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Originally Posted by Subatomic View Post


Only because the soundcard on my workstation pc at work is rubbish. Heaps of EMI, basically can't use it, which is why im after an external dac. I Imagine the PM3 would do fine out of my iPhone, but I do want the option of using Spotify etc from my pc.

 

Ah you work where they let you stream ^_^

post #872 of 4793
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Have briefly touched on this before, but just wanting to get some options. I'm pretty much set up on getting the PM3 to use in the office. Can anyone make a suggestion for a good dac/amp that would pair well with the PM3 in an office environment? Obviously because it's a quiet environment and the PM3 are efficient, don't need much power, and my only other requirement is that the DAC portion doesn't need drivers in Windows 7 (ie USB class 1/24/92). I could probably get IT to install drivers for me, but i'd prefer to not go that route. It'd also be nice to use it with my iPhone (I know most DACs you can plug into the Camera Connection Kit and that works fine). 

I was thinking of going for the Modi2/Magni2Uber stack. Probably way too much power for the PM3s (will also being using my W30s), but yea.

Otherwise not sure what else to look at? Thought about things like the Dragonfly/FiioE10k/E17k/OppoHA2 etc, but since it'll be at my desk, and I have a power point, I figured I could get away with a powered unit. The HA2 would be ideal, but its just pretty $$$ frown.gif

So yea, what do you guys think?
Buy my D3 or the equivalent (Dragonfly, MicroStreamer, etc). The DAC is more important than the amp, so these little guys should be perfect.
post #873 of 4793

you can actually probably get away with just a dac for the pm3s if your primary concern is your computer's sound card & you are trying to save money.

 

a usb-style amp/dac combo like the dragonfly v1.2 might be nice so you can take it with you for home use if desired rather than a full desktop stack. the pro of something like the ha-2 is that you can use it during your commute as well. if the ha-2 is too pricey, you can consider the portable amp/dac offerings by fiio. most of them are sub-$150 or even sub-$100 depending on the model.

post #874 of 4793
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Originally Posted by redogfizbal View Post

I have compared them, not at the same time.

Pm-3 is much more comfortable. It is also balanced "more flat" and presents a more organic sound. There is ample resolution even though the highs seem rolled off. The mid range is lush. The bass is very deep and resolving, but lacks a touch of impact.

P7 is exciting, the treble response is probably the best I have heard, although slightly elevated. The mid range is a touch recessed but not enough to care because everything else sounds good. They make a lot of bass. It's not muddy, but I wouldn't call it great in definition. It's a very fun headphone, and has a huge soundstage for a closed back. Comfort for me is only ok.

Thanks!

The P7 is definitely fun. I like it but it can get fatiguing after a while. Rolled off treble would help. Also potentially considering the Sony Z7.
post #875 of 4793
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Thanks!

The P7 is definitely fun. I like it but it can get fatiguing after a while. Rolled off treble would help. Also potentially considering the Sony Z7.
The Shure 1540 is supposed to be similar to the z7 with just a touch better treble response.
post #876 of 4793
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Originally Posted by Subatomic View Post
 

Have briefly touched on this before, but just wanting to get some options. I'm pretty much set up on getting the PM3 to use in the office. Can anyone make a suggestion for a good dac/amp that would pair well with the PM3 in an office environment? Obviously because it's a quiet environment and the PM3 are efficient, don't need much power, and my only other requirement is that the DAC portion doesn't need drivers in Windows 7 (ie USB class 1/24/92). I could probably get IT to install drivers for me, but i'd prefer to not go that route. It'd also be nice to use it with my iPhone (I know most DACs you can plug into the Camera Connection Kit and that works fine). 

 

I was thinking of going for the Modi2/Magni2Uber stack. Probably way too much power for the PM3s (will also being using my W30s), but yea.

 

Otherwise not sure what else to look at? Thought about things like the Dragonfly/FiioE10k/E17k/OppoHA2 etc, but since it'll be at my desk, and I have a power point, I figured I could get away with a powered unit. The HA2 would be ideal, but its just pretty $$$ :(

 

So yea, what do you guys think?

FiiO E18 works well with the PM-3. Plenty of volume and enough grunt to make the bottom end livelier. I can't remember now but I don't remember installing a driver in Windows to make it work.

post #877 of 4793
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Originally Posted by lukeap69 View Post
 

FiiO E18 works well with the PM-3. Plenty of volume and enough grunt to make the bottom end livelier. I can't remember now but I don't remember installing a driver in Windows to make it work.

The easy way to determine if it will need a drive or not is to look at the supported bit rates.  If it maxes at 24/96, you don't need a driver.  If it is 24/192 or better, you do need a driver.

post #878 of 4793
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Originally Posted by lukeap69 View Post
 

FiiO E18 works well with the PM-3. Plenty of volume and enough grunt to make the bottom end livelier. I can't remember now but I don't remember installing a driver in Windows to make it work.

Yeh or even the cheaper fiio e07k or e10k would be fine. Both of them plus the e17 and e18 work without drivers for windows.

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The easy way to determine if it will need a drive or not is to look at the supported bit rates.  If it maxes at 24/96, you don't need a driver.  If it is 24/192 or better, you do need a driver.

I think it is only 24/96.

post #880 of 4793
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Ah you work where they let you stream ^_^

I use Tidal at work, lol... Super fast internet with no limit whatsoever.

post #881 of 4793
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Originally Posted by manbear View Post


Thanks!

The P7 is definitely fun. I like it but it can get fatiguing after a while. Rolled off treble would help. Also potentially considering the Sony Z7.


Have you tried Fidelio X2? It's very good if you want a fun headphone.

post #882 of 4793

As others have said - straight from an iPhone is awesome.  If you are running from a computer, there are a bunch of dragonfly, HA-2, Schiit Fulla, etc. options out there.  Any would be good.  They scale a bit with a nice amp, I generally don't bother with one and just use my phone.  Bedside I do plug them into my HA-1 once in a while.  It sounds better, but not all that much.

post #883 of 4793
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Originally Posted by aamefford View Post
 

As others have said - straight from an iPhone is awesome.  If you are running from a computer, there are a bunch of dragonfly, HA-2, Schiit Fulla, etc. options out there.  Any would be good.  They scale a bit with a nice amp, I generally don't bother with one and just use my phone.  Bedside I do plug them into my HA-1 once in a while.  It sounds better, but not all that much.

 

iPhone 6 is quite good... Better than most cheap dacs. I find Meridian Explorer2 more musical though.

post #884 of 4793
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Originally Posted by aamefford View Post
 

As others have said - straight from an iPhone is awesome.  If you are running from a computer, there are a bunch of dragonfly, HA-2, Schiit Fulla, etc. options out there.  Any would be good.  They scale a bit with a nice amp, I generally don't bother with one and just use my phone.  Bedside I do plug them into my HA-1 once in a while.  It sounds better, but not all that much.

I use it with the Dragonfly and find it quite satisfactory.  

post #885 of 4793
ifi nano idsd great deal under 200
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