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post #1096 of 6346
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Originally Posted by caracara08 View Post
 

 

So.. kind of like the HD700?

 

Actually, yeah a lot like the HD700.  Some of the same issues I had with the HD700 are present here:  the odd treble, the overall sound that never quite gelled, the price that just seems way out of line, the oddly poor product relative to the company's other products, etc.

 

Which is weird now that you mention it because days ago I was cautioning people not to get over-hyped just because of Audeze's track record; I was pointing at the HD700 as the example of what could go wrong.

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There's no controversy. He just writes whatever provocative thing he can to attract visitors and make an advertising dollar. Please don't even visit the site. His reviews are worthless.

Ken Rockwell the camera guy is talking about headphones now?

post #1098 of 6346
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The closed version took the weakest parts of the open version (the low-impact bass and the spiky treble) and made them both worse.  They were just unpleasant to listen to (I am sensitive to treble spikes) and although I tried them a few times, I never kept them on for very long. 

 

I think overall I liked them, I just wasn't as impressed as I wanted to be.  But that's hype for you.  In my PERSONAL opinion, they're not worth the $700 asking price given some obvious sonic weaknesses.  And the closed version is worth less than that.  Actually, I'd really caution people away from the closed version completely.  The open version doesn't sound bad, far from it, but I don't think it's a $700 headphone either.

Wow, just when I thought the closed was super close to the open...Yeah, I don't know about this anymore. Especially about the whole $700 thing...it's not that I take your opinion better more to heart than all the others but you answered questions I had in the thread directly so I have to commend you for that. I'd really like to audition them at some point but I'm not gonna pre-order. I'll check for reviews around release time. I really want a higher class closed headphone...Open has a ton of options so I never actually envisioned it as a prospect; I was looking forward to the closed more. 

 

Well, like I said I'll audition them if I can and will read reviews when they come but your impressions are very much appreciated and you're the first to directly tackle what I wanted to know from your view.

 

Thank you

post #1099 of 6346
I agree that they could not worth 700 bucks. The thing is sellers will try to sell them under 650 or less like always.
For instance, now HD700 is 540 dollars as a brand new on Amazon.
If Audeze guys are going to sell it on Amazon or other popular stores, I think EL8's price can go as low as 550.
We will see. Sometimes patience is the best price you can pay.
Shure's SRH1840 was 699 dollars when it came out. Now, everyone's selling it for 499 dollars.
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Ken Rockwell the camera guy is talking about headphones now?

He has been for quite a while.  He seems pretty well-known on the iPhone 6 thread.

post #1101 of 6346
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Originally Posted by kawaivpc1 View Post

I agree that they could not worth 700 bucks. The thing is sellers will try to sell them under 650 or less like always.
For instance, HD700 is now 540 dollars as brand new on Amazon.
If Audeze guys are going to sell it on Amazon or other popular stores, I think EL8's price can go as low as 550.
We will see. Sometimes patience is the best price you can pay.
Shure's SRH1840 was 699 dollars when it came out. Now, everyone's selling it for 499 dollars.

 

Each manufacturer will set dealer pricing policy differently.

 

With smaller manufacturers, they are more likely to make dealers stick to the MSRP because they want to make sure brick-and-mortars where people can demo the gear still have a chance at selling it. Keeping their gear in actual retail stores is much more important for Audeze and Schitt than it is for Shure or Sennheiser.

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He has been for quite a while.  He seems pretty well-known on the iPhone 6 thread.


Ken Rockwell will talk about any subject that has an affiliate program he can promote.

post #1103 of 6346

As with any new headphone, the divergence of very early opinions is making it impossible to reasonably assess the EL-8s.  No fault of those kind enough to go to CES and review, but given the variation in preference and the generally awful listening conditions at that show, I don't see how any conclusions can be drawn yet.  Given Audeze's relative success, I doubt they will be technically bad, but they certainly won't fit everyone's sonic preferences.

 

Trying to stay rational, I expect these to be not as good as the 3 and X series but better than Beats.  To me, these are clearly aimed at a different market than their existing phones, so direct comparisons may not be important as, with the exception of the LCD2, there really isn't any kind of price overlap.

 

Personally, an Audeze closed can I can wear when traveling that's over a grand less than the XC is what I was hoping for.  If it turns out not to meet expectations, I can always buy the XC.

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Ken Rockwell will talk about any subject that has an affiliate program he can promote.

We've gotta introduce him to teh B43t5 Pr0.

According to him, there's not much difference between TOTL DACs and the iPhone 6.

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He has been for quite a while.  He seems pretty well-known on the iPhone 6 thread.

 

That's hilarious!  Of course he is.  lol

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We've gotta introduce him to teh B43t5 Pr0.

According to him, there's not much difference between TOTL DACs and the iPhone 6.

 

Oh man I haven't been to that site in years but he still has a Donation link "Please help Kenrockwell.com" -- hilarious. 

 

Gotta admire him though, I bet he makes 6 figures from that site.

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As with any new headphone, the divergence of very early opinions is making it impossible to reasonably assess the EL-8s.  No fault of those kind enough to go to CES and review, but given the variation in preference and the generally awful listening conditions at that show, I don't see how any conclusions can be drawn yet.  Given Audeze's relative success, I doubt they will be technically bad, but they certainly won't fit everyone's sonic preferences.

 

Trying to stay rational, I expect these to be not as good as the 3 and X series but better than Beats.  To me, these are clearly aimed at a different market than their existing phones, so direct comparisons may not be important as, with the exception of the LCD2, there really isn't any kind of price overlap.

 

Personally, an Audeze closed can I can wear when traveling that's over a grand less than the XC is what I was hoping for.  If it turns out not to meet expectations, I can always buy the XC.

 

Yeah, fair enough.  I mean, I know that I won't be able to truly assess them without listening to MY test tracks on MY DAC/Amp and A/B'ing against MY other headphones.  

 

That said, I know a painful treble spike when I hear one.  :-/

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Originally Posted by lamode View Post
 

 

There's no controversy. He just writes whatever provocative thing he can to attract visitors and make an advertising dollar. Please don't even visit the site. His reviews are worthless.

 


Wow, I appreciate the heads-up & will draw my own conclusions. 

 

 

Back to the subject in hand... how 'bout that EL-8?   :wink_face:

 

 

 

Best regards, 

 

Jeb. 

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I had already decided that I was going to purchase the LCD-XC's so I'm really interested in the SQ comparison between the XC's and the EL-8's specifically. I mean, I know that there is a huge price difference between the two, so taking that out of the equation, can anybody comment specifically on how far off/close the two are?

 

Mr. Mercer, if you had only one of the two to keep, which would it be? The XC's or the closed EL-8's?

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Oh man I haven't been to that site in years but he still has a Donation link "Please help Kenrockwell.com" -- hilarious. 

 

Gotta admire him though, I bet he makes 6 figures from that site.

I'm actually not too sure about 6 figures.  There aren't too many ads (3 banner ones on the right side of the website).

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