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post #2626 of 8918

@pearljam50000, honestly diminishing returns for headphones hit so much earlier than this. after a very nice $200 mid open set, you won't never get double the sound quality for double your money. as you move up the price bracket, the sonic differences become more and more subtle. first you have to determine what price bracket provides improvements that is worth it for you. then really best way to judge imo is to compare different offerings at that same price point (along with some above & below). there are a lot of headphones that are overpriced compared to competition for their sound quality.

 

the people here interested in this are usually people who just want as close to perfection as possible and don't care about the money or performance:value ratio anymore.

 

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Originally Posted by Music Alchemist View Post
 

Like I and others have covered in the past, it's all about performance in specific categories. It's too complex to say that one is better than the other.

this... but yes, there are some headphones you can tell are technically inferior performance-wise. personal preference though is more important.


Edited by money4me247 - 3/22/15 at 3:41pm
post #2627 of 8918
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Originally Posted by erikfreedom View Post
 

I hope this thing is gonna have hard hitting bass like the he-6. I have never heard a can with bass like he-6. this thing can crack your skull. bass is so tight and defined. I really hope the he1000 is gonna be like he-6 but on steroids. properly driven he-6 is a force of nature. I enjoy my time with my hd 800 but I miss my he-6 a lot. I hope he1000 is a worthy upgrade to the he-6. a cabled and modded he-6 is a beast of a pair of cans. soundwise he-6 is gonna be hard to top. he-6 is master of metal and trance music. hope he1000 is gonna prove to be equally adept at those genres and not just a pair of cans for lovers of the 9th symphony. no offense.

 

I already bought what is supposedly the hardest-hitting headphone of all time, so the only thing I can hope for is something that hits sufficiently hard and has all the other qualities (insert audiophile terminology here) I'd want in a headphone. I love metal and trance as well!

post #2628 of 8918
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Originally Posted by Music Alchemist View Post
 

I already bought what is supposedly the hardest-hitting headphone of all time, so the only thing I can hope for is something that hits sufficiently hard and has all the other qualities (insert audiophile terminology here) I'd want in a headphone. I love metal and trance as well!

hahah... you will find that hardest-hitting of all time is pretty subjective. any "of all time" type statements is really just out of that person's little headphone experiences... very few people have heard em all =P probably a lot of other options that hit just as hard or harder, so don't worry :)

post #2629 of 8918
Hifiman specializes in making all-round headphones. HE-6 is good with all genres, HE-500/HE-560 as well. I think no matter what your preference is, you won't be disappointed. You might like a specific headphone more for a specific genre but that's it.
post #2630 of 8918
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Originally Posted by money4me247 View Post

this... but yes, there are some headphones you can tell are technically inferior performance-wise. personal preference though is more important.

 

True, but once you get into summit-fi territory, things aren't always as clear-cut, at least with the top 20 or so models. Even when a headphone is vastly superior in one category, it may be sub-par at other things, for example.

 

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hahah... you will find that hardest-hitting of all time is pretty subjective. any "of all time" type statements is really just out of that person's little headphone experiences... very few people have heard em all =P probably a lot of other options that hit just as hard or harder, so don't worry :)

 

I'm basing it on this:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/716711/the-best-bass-headphones-are-the-extreme-bass-club

 

The person who started it has heard most of the high-end stuff, though I admit he should compare things like the Abyss and HE-6 on the thread as well.

 

If we're talking about hitting hard in the mids and treble or whatever, that's another story...

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Originally Posted by erikfreedom View Post
 

I hope this thing is gonna have hard hitting bass like the he-6. I have never heard a can with bass like he-6. this thing can crack your skull. bass is so tight and defined. I really hope the he1000 is gonna be like he-6 but on steroids. properly driven he-6 is a force of nature. I enjoy my time with my hd 800 but I miss my he-6 a lot. I hope he1000 is a worthy upgrade to the he-6. a cabled and modded he-6 is a beast of a pair of cans. soundwise he-6 is gonna be hard to top. he-6 is master of metal and trance music. hope he1000 is gonna prove to be equally adept at those genres and not just a pair of cans for lovers of the 9th symphony. no offense.


offense taken...the 9th symphony rules, be it by Schubert, Bruckner, Mahler, Beethoven, Dvorak, or Vaughn Williams!

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Originally Posted by figaro69 View Post
 

offense taken...the 9th symphony rules, be it by Schubert, Bruckner, Mahler, Beethoven, Dvorak, or Vaughn Williams!

 

He just meant he hopes it excels at genres other than classical, etc.

post #2633 of 8918

there is a lot of cans that have lotsa bass, but it does not hit that hard. d7000 is one such headphone. enormous quantity of bass but does not hit that hard. he-6 bass hit very hard. the basshead thread is for those who love a lot of bass. not my kind of bass. my kind of bass is he-6 bass.

post #2634 of 8918
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Originally Posted by pearljam50000 View Post
 
Well yes, but if you buy a Toyota Corolloa, or a Ferrari, you know *for sure* you will get much higher performance from the Ferrari, and that justifies most of the price difference, in this case it's not clear if you are really getting any better *performance* from the Abyss and HE1000.

Most people would never be able to even consider Ferrari ownership, the HE-1000 is actually achievable/conceivable for the average person.

Remember the HE-1000 is a statement product - not (necessarily) a value orientated model.

post #2635 of 8918
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Originally Posted by erikfreedom View Post
 

there is a lot of cans that have lotsa bass, but it does not hit that hard. d7000 is one such headphone. enormous quantity of bass but does not hit that hard. he-6 bass hit very hard. the basshead thread is for those who love a lot of bass. not my kind of bass. my kind of bass is he-6 bass.

 

Nope, that bass thread is about the headphones that have the most impact and thus hit the hardest, particularly after boosting the bass with EQ.

post #2636 of 8918
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Originally Posted by Music Alchemist View Post

 

I'm basing it on this:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/716711/the-best-bass-headphones-are-the-extreme-bass-club

 

The person who started it has heard most of the high-end stuff, though I admit he should compare things like the Abyss and HE-6 on the thread as well.

 

If we're talking about hitting hard in the mids and treble or whatever, that's another story...

 

The thread is about impact. You can't get the same impact from open headphones that you do with closed, a seal and closed cup is needed. That's why you don't see any open headphones on there.


Edited by DreamKing - 3/22/15 at 3:55pm
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Originally Posted by Music Alchemist View Post
 

I'm basing it on this:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/716711/the-best-bass-headphones-are-the-extreme-bass-club

 

The person who started it has heard most of the high-end stuff, though I admit he should compare things like the Abyss and HE-6 on the thread as well.

 

If we're talking about hitting hard in the mids and treble or whatever, that's another story...

ya, i knew actually what exactly review you were referring to actually hahaha. used to be a basshead & followed the basshead club threads quite closely.

post #2638 of 8918
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Originally Posted by DreamKing View Post
 

The thread is about impact. You can't get the same impact from open headphones that you do with closed, a seal is needed. That's why you don't see any open headphones on there.

 

Look at my post right above yours. lol

 

Did they test impact in the mids, etc. as well, though? I thought it was just about the bass impact.

post #2639 of 8918
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Originally Posted by Music Alchemist View Post
 

 

Look at my post right above yours. lol

 

Did they test impact in the mids, etc. as well, though? I thought it was just about the bass impact.

 

But you're suggesting he should compare the Abyss and HE-6 when there would be no point for extreme bass impact. Yeah, It is about just bass. The impact in the rest of the sonic spectrum doesn't matter lol.

post #2640 of 8918
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Originally Posted by DreamKing View Post
 

But you're suggesting he should compare the Abyss and HE-6 when there would be no point for extreme bass impact. Yeah, It is about just bass. The impact in the rest of the sonic spectrum doesn't matter lol.

 

Lots of people are impressed by how much impact the Abyss and HE-6 have, even compared to closed headphones they've heard, so I feel that they should at least be tested and compared in that thread, even if they don't make the rankings. Just because a headphone is open doesn't mean it can't have a lot of impact. Anyway, I'm sure the SZ2K has more...too bad I have to wait weeks to receive it, since it's in such high demand and can only be imported from Japan.

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