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Originally Posted by Yoga View Post

Fong was trying to 'beat' the ES sound with his new flagship, perhaps the Abyss offers a different sound which is down to preference rather than levels/degree of ability in certain sonic contexts. The former is 'better' to showcase as it can be classed as more objective.

Either that, or as you hint, the Abyss does some thing(s) better, which they don't want highlighted at the demo. Bass, and perhaps mids (when driven with the right amp/dac).

maybe fhey cldnt afford the abyss. its quite pricey afterall wink.gif
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Originally Posted by catspaw View Post

Well... how hard can it be to move a nanometer thin driver? biggrin.gif.

Yeah right, 1nm thick membrane ... I bet it's more like 500-1000x that figure smily_headphones1.gif. In any case, it's irrelevant once you add the copper traces...
post #2703 of 8588
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Originally Posted by Music Alchemist View Post
 

 

Yes, a fancy, expensive watch is, beneath the surface, fundamentally, basically, and essentially a luxury item that is unnecessary to tell time with. The fact that it happens to tell time is beside the point. Watches are also literally jewelry no matter how you look at it. A fancy watch that has gone beyond the original intended purpose of being a timepiece becomes primarily jewelry in comparison to a basic watch that performs the same function of telling time, but isn't flaunted as a testament to one's opulence.

 

 

But you don't wear the watch if it stops working. So beneath the surface, fundamentally, basically, and essentially it is a timepiece

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But you don't wear the watch if it stops working. So beneath the surface, fundamentally, basically, and essentially it is a timepiece

well, if your rolex stops working... it is no longer a timepiece. do you throw it away at that point? If it no longer functions as a timepiece, does it no longer have any value? is its value due to the fact that it is a timepiece?

 

If fundamentally a rolex is only a timepiece, then when it loses its fundamental function, it should become worthless. That is why I believe a rolex is actually fundamentally, basically, and essentially a piece of jewelry as it retains its value despite not working as a timepiece.

 

:)

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3000$ for a 1nm piece of film... Only on head-fi... (;
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Originally Posted by gideon228 View Post

But you don't wear the watch if it stops working. So beneath the surface, fundamentally, basically, and essentially it is a timepiece

yep

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Originally Posted by money4me247 View Post

well, if your rolex stops working... it is no longer a timepiece. do you throw it away at that point? If it no longer functions as a timepiece, does it no longer have any value? is its value due to the fact that it is a timepiece?

If fundamentally a rolex is only a timepiece, then when it loses its fundamental function, it should become worthless. That is why I believe a rolex is actually fundamentally, basically, and essentially a piece of jewelry as it retains its value despite not working as a timepiece.

smily_headphones1.gif

nope. your rolex remains a time piece even when it fails to keep time. this could be because you forgot to wind it or replace the battery. if it's broken then you get it repaired, just as you would for any other device that you use and value. does a car cease to be a car when it runs out of fuel or breaks down?

a rolex is an expensive and desirable watch but it's still "beneath the surface, fundamentally, basically, and essentially" a time piece. that's its function, just as a bugatti is still a car.

ok? wink.gif
Edited by up late - 3/23/15 at 8:10am
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Let's get back on topic, guys.

 

(And, yes, if you hadn't already figured it out, I done pruned this thread into something tidier, so don't go mussin' it up. ;))

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Originally Posted by mhamel View Post

 

I think we need a section called, "No! *I* want the last word!" - then all of these types of thread-jacking arguments can go on and on ad nauseum.

heh... sorry for going so off-topic. just bored waiting for more he1k news. honestly cldnt care less abt that debate. just playing around. sorry for the silly posts.

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Originally Posted by money4me247 View Post
 

heh... sorry for going so off-topic. just bored waiting for more he1k news. honestly cldnt care less abt that debate. just playing around. sorry for the silly posts.

 

Yeah me too ;)

post #2710 of 8588

I want more Abyss vs HE1K comparions, as i was about to buy an abyss when i saw this news.

More head to head comparisons :D

post #2711 of 8588

Any more comparisons between the SR-009 and HE1000? I hope to read some soon.

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Originally Posted by jude View Post
 

Let's get back on topic, guys.

 

(And, yes, if you hadn't already figured it out, I done pruned this thread into something tidier, so don't go mussin' it up. ;))


Finally a voice of reason. 

 

To the pissing contest members - stop it please.  No one wants to read about watches or fashion opinions here! 

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Originally Posted by matthewhypolite View Post
 

I want more Abyss vs HE1K comparions, as i was about to buy an abyss when i saw this news.

More head to head comparisons :D


As soon as I can get a pair in the UK I'll be doing that comparison, but I'm sure others in the industry will get their hands on them sooner.

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Originally Posted by Yoga View Post
 


As soon as I can get a pair in the UK I'll be doing that comparison, but I'm sure others in the industry will get their hands on them sooner.


​Great, looking forward to reading about this comparison specifically. I'll postpone my purchase of Abyss till Christmas time, that should give enough time for some head-to-head comparisons. Already reserved a LAu which I should get around nov. Question is, whether I pair it with Abyss as planned, or HE1K

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Originally Posted by matthewhypolite View Post
 


​Great, looking forward to reading about this comparison specifically. I'll postpone my purchase of Abyss till Christmas time, that should give enough time for some head-to-head comparisons. Already reserved a LAu which I should get around nov. Question is, whether I pair it with Abyss as planned, or HE1K


If you've not paid for the LAu already, do give the Moon 430 a listen. Like the LAu, it's a beast. It's a more musical amp, so it depends entirely on your sonic preferences.

 

Abyss/HE1K + LAu/430 - any combination of those is a win anyway :¬)

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