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post #106 of 271
6/21/04 at 3:10pm
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Originally Posted by DJGeorgeT
7. I am glad to say that UE will charge only $10 to $20 to adjust my earpieces if 10 years down the road my ear canal changes shape and the earpieces need to be retouched.
Do you know if they include the audiologist fee to take the new impressions in this only $10 to $20???
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post #107 of 271
6/21/04 at 3:15pm
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Originally Posted by random person
On the issue of Ipodlounge's reviews of the UE10Pro and the UE5c -- they were in fact reviewed by two different people. Jeremy Horowitz reviewed the UE10Pro, and Dennis Lloyd the UE5c. So we still can't draw any definitive comparative conclusions between them.


So I believe the only living soul who's heard both the UE10Pro and the UE5c is Jerry at UE. Since one is a lot more expensive than the other, and therefore more profitable to UE, I take his recommendation of the cheaper model for recorded music as a ringing endorsement. The UE10Pro is probably better in an absolute sense, of course -- three drivers vs two -- but it remains to be seen if it is $400 better for those of us who are not musicians. Since I am not a profesional singer (and even gave up air guitar some years ago ) I had no problem deciding that the UE5c was probably a better choice for my purposes -- $400 better!

Ok, I pm'd Dennis over at the ipodlounge, to see if he had both the UE5C's and UE10Pros. He does, although he didn't review the UE10's. And the million dollar question, which did he prefer using the ipod as the source--the UE10's, because of added warmth. Just Dennis's opinion, but his is one that I highly respect.

For me, it's down to the UE10's and Sensas; as a hardcore ety user, I'm leaning toward the UE10's. Lindrone's review, and this discussion, have been incredibly helpful--I've noticed some leaning toward UE, others toward Sensaphonics, and I'm getting more and more inclined to think you really can't go wrong with either.
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post #108 of 271
6/21/04 at 3:31pm
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Originally Posted by DJGeorgeT
7. I am glad to say that UE will charge only $10 to $20 to adjust my earpieces if 10 years down the road my ear canal changes shape and the earpieces need to be retouched.
DJGeorgeT:

If Ultimate Ears or Sensaphonics survives or thrives ten years hence, then I am sure their current top of the line models will be obsolete by then. I will save up for whatever top of the line model they have 10 years hence.
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post #109 of 271
6/21/04 at 4:09pm
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Originally Posted by Welly Wu
DJGeorgeT:

If Ultimate Ears or Sensaphonics survives or thrives ten years hence, then I am sure their current top of the line models will be obsolete by then. I will save up for whatever top of the line model they have 10 years hence.
Not only this, do you really think that you will have them, by then (well maybe you will, as they are not resellable at all, for being custom molded)? Do you know how many other better models will be available from this or any other brand???
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post #110 of 271
6/21/04 at 5:07pm
FYI....

The Sensa 2X was "modeled" AFTER the UE-5 pro. That's what it should be compared to.
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post #111 of 271
6/21/04 at 6:52pm
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Originally Posted by HRA
FYI....

The Sensa 2X was "modeled" AFTER the UE-5 pro. That's what it should be compared to.
So HRA are you suggesting that the 2X and UE-5 Pro have similar sound characteristics? That would certainly make Random Person happy!!
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post #112 of 271
6/21/04 at 7:13pm
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Originally Posted by Sovkiller
Do you know if they include the audiologist fee to take the new impressions in this only $10 to $20???
The audiologist fee is separate. Before I finalize the purchase, I would like to get this rate down in writing. I know that service fees usually go up.
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post #113 of 271
6/21/04 at 7:21pm
Hi Big D !!

I loved your review!

As for your comment well !
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post #114 of 271
6/21/04 at 7:22pm
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Originally Posted by Big D
So HRA are you suggesting that the 2X and UE-5 Pro have similar sound characteristics? That would certainly make Random Person happy!!
or UE-5C....which is the same thing as the UE-5 Pro without the mid frequency hump (flatter mid to high frequency response)
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post #115 of 271
6/21/04 at 7:23pm
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Originally Posted by Welly Wu
DJGeorgeT:

If Ultimate Ears or Sensaphonics survives or thrives ten years hence, then I am sure their current top of the line models will be obsolete by then. I will save up for whatever top of the line model they have 10 years hence.
I have no plans to buy another headphone after the UE-10 Pro

I am pretty sure they will come up with many more models. But, they still support their 9 year old IEMs that they first sold in 95. Remember that the dynamics in a small company that makes custom products for a very specific section of the audio professional market can be very different from those of big corporations. The real question is whether or not UE will be in business 10 years from now.
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post #116 of 271
6/21/04 at 7:52pm
Listen, I have no hidden agenda here other than the fact that Jerry Harvey is a friend of mine. He has been in this business as have I for a very long time. He designed the Shure E5 that everyone loves for that level of performance and Sensa tried to imitate his UE5pro with their 2X. Don't get me wrong, the Sensa company is a good company but its NOT what the pro's are using these days. I don't care what any audiologist has to say because they are NOT the ones that are steering us in one direction or the other. Are decisions are based either first hand knowledge or professional recommendations by other sound engineers. I caution you to NOT listen to an audiogist for their advise. With that said here is a little tidbit that was done today on the Sensa 2X versus the UE10pro.
Well...maybe not....I'm not sure how to post a picture (jpg)
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post #117 of 271
6/21/04 at 8:02pm
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Originally Posted by HRA
Listen, I have no hidden agenda here other than the fact that Jerry Harvey is a friend of mine. He has been in this business as have I for a very long time. He designed the Shure E5 that everyone loves for that level of performance and Sensa tried to imitate his UE5pro with their 2X. Don't get me wrong, the Sensa company is a good company but its NOT what the pro's are using these days. I don't care what any audiologist has to say because they are NOT the ones that are steering us in one direction or the other. Are decisions are based either first hand knowledge or professional recommendations by other sound engineers. I caution you to NOT listen to an audiogist for their advise. With that said here is a little tidbit that was done today on the Sensa 2X versus the UE10pro.
Well...maybe not....I'm not sure how to post a picture (jpg)
I thought that might have been what you'd meant, but it would have been nice for people to have a cheaper choice than the 2X-S or UE-10 Pro. UE are obviously doing quite a lot of business as my phones have a serial number just over 3500 and I'm not taking them out of my ears to check the number!!

HRA I for one am happy to read your posts here and please don't take my previous post as any kind of insult. I was genuinely curious to see if that was what you meant.

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post #118 of 271
6/21/04 at 8:09pm
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Originally Posted by Big D
I thought that might have been what you'd meant, but it would have been nice for people to have a cheaper choice than the 2X-S or UE-10 Pro. UE are obviously doing quite a lot of business as my phones have a serial number just over 3500 and I'm not taking them out of my ears to check the number!!

HRA I for one am happy to read your posts here and please don't take my previous post as any kind of insult. I was genuinely curious to see if that was what you meant.

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Just gone done working out in my gym....will post right after a quick shower....
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post #119 of 271
6/21/04 at 8:09pm
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Originally Posted by penbat
Thanks that expands my knowledge of the issues but i am still not sure what is best for me (UE-5C or UE-10). I would be using the UE with an Ipod most often with a Portable amp (Superdual). I listen mainly to rock music. I have been using a Shure E5 for the last 9 months so that is where i am coming from. The UE website suggest that either would be OK with the Ipod.
To stay on the safe side, UE-10 Pro because it seems to combine the best sound signatures and features of the other IEMs in the UE lineup...plus more. It is really hard to say specially since I have not heard any of the UE products myself and I am doing my own research atm.

What do you like about the E5?

When I had the E5, I used the stock foams and the tri flanges. I noticed that depending on the tip, the sound signature would be different. With the foams, the mids instantly moved forward significantly. With the tri flanges, the mids would recess a bit and the highs would move forward for a more balanced and extended audio presentation.

I think you will be delighted with the UE-10 Pro. Period!

I am not so sure you will be happy in the same way about the stock UE-5C. Maybe you really really like that mid frequency hump that the Shure E5 provides (most noticeably with the foamies). In that case, you could still get the UE-5C without the notch filter.

You have to make your own decision and run with it.
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post #120 of 271
6/21/04 at 8:15pm
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Originally Posted by HRA
Listen, I have no hidden agenda here other than the fact that Jerry Harvey is a friend of mine. He has been in this business as have I for a very long time. He designed the Shure E5 that everyone loves for that level of performance and Sensa tried to imitate his UE5pro with their 2X. Don't get me wrong, the Sensa company is a good company but its NOT what the pro's are using these days. I don't care what any audiologist has to say because they are NOT the ones that are steering us in one direction or the other. Are decisions are based either first hand knowledge or professional recommendations by other sound engineers. I caution you to NOT listen to an audiogist for their advise. With that said here is a little tidbit that was done today on the Sensa 2X versus the UE10pro.
Well...maybe not....I'm not sure how to post a picture (jpg)
Both sensaphonics and UE have a long and surprising list of customers.
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