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CAL! broke, advice for new headphones needed (MAX 200 pounds/ 250 euros)

post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 

Hi Head-Fi!

 

Been lurking here for probably a couple of years now, and started out with my Creative Aurvana Live headphones, after reading about it on here.

They've been working flawlessly up until last night, when the left phone stopped working. Seem to be a wire issue, so I could re-cable it, but I figure it's as good a time as any to upgrade.

I've been very fond of the CAL!, but I'm still not really all too sure what I want from a headphone.

 

Few points about my experience with the CAL!:

+ Good amount of bass, definitely don't want more though.

+ I found them fun to listen to.

- Hard to tell instruments apart.

- While they are comfy, the headband was quite uncomfortable after extended use.

- Too small cups/pads. Often got sore ears from them after a few hours of use.

 

Like my title says, my absolute maximum is 200 pounds (250 euros). I'd like it to be under, but I can go up to that.

I have no amp, dac or anything, and am just running directly from my Galaxy S5, and realtek onboard on my pc. I could get one, but it needs to fit in the budget.

 

I live in Denmark, so I need to order from somewhere in Europe, for example amazon.co.uk or thomann.de

 

I've been looking at the Fidelio X1 and also the Sennheiser HD 598, but both are probably a problem for me.

X1 because they seem to be non-existent all of a sudden, and I don't think the HD 598's go too well with my music preferences. Might be wrong, but I'll list them here:

 

Every day:

Symphonic/power Metal
80's Rock
Synthpop

New Wave

 

Often:
Dark Wave
Industrial

 

Once in a while:
Electronica
Chiptunes
Dubstep

Jpop
Classical

 

I'm looking for over-ear headphones, preferably with a detachable cable. Need good comfort, and non fatiguing, as I'll use them at least 5 hours a day, some days more.

They can be either open or closed, whatever fits my music tastes the best. Wont be taking them out of the house.

 

Thanks in advance.

post #2 of 11
Consider getting another cal1. For the price it is a great sounding headphone. I recently bought the cal 2 but not too impressed so far. I am going to try a different cable on em.
Hope this helps
Mike
post #3 of 11
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Originally Posted by FairlyIncognito View Post
 

Hi Head-Fi!

 

Been lurking here for probably a couple of years now, and started out with my Creative Aurvana Live headphones, after reading about it on here.

They've been working flawlessly up until last night, when the left phone stopped working. Seem to be a wire issue, so I could re-cable it, but I figure it's as good a time as any to upgrade.

I've been very fond of the CAL!, but I'm still not really all too sure what I want from a headphone.

 

Few points about my experience with the CAL!:

+ Good amount of bass, definitely don't want more though.

+ I found them fun to listen to.

- Hard to tell instruments apart.

- While they are comfy, the headband was quite uncomfortable after extended use.

- Too small cups/pads. Often got sore ears from them after a few hours of use.

 

Like my title says, my absolute maximum is 200 pounds (250 euros). I'd like it to be under, but I can go up to that.

I have no amp, dac or anything, and am just running directly from my Galaxy S5, and realtek onboard on my pc. I could get one, but it needs to fit in the budget.

 

I live in Denmark, so I need to order from somewhere in Europe, for example amazon.co.uk or thomann.de

 

I've been looking at the Fidelio X1 and also the Sennheiser HD 598, but both are probably a problem for me.

X1 because they seem to be non-existent all of a sudden, and I don't think the HD 598's go too well with my music preferences. Might be wrong, but I'll list them here:

 

Every day:

Symphonic/power Metal
80's Rock
Synthpop

New Wave

 

Often:
Dark Wave
Industrial

 

Once in a while:
Electronica
Chiptunes
Dubstep

Jpop
Classical

 

I'm looking for over-ear headphones, preferably with a detachable cable. Need good comfort, and non fatiguing, as I'll use them at least 5 hours a day, some days more.

They can be either open or closed, whatever fits my music tastes the best. Wont be taking them out of the house.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

As toadthedry says, just getting another CAL! is an option, as they are hard to beat for the money.

 

Otherwise, if you want to go closed, some options are:

 

Beyerdynamic DT770 (32ohm)

Beyerdynamic Custom One Pro

AKG K550

AKG K545

 

For open, I'd recommend the Beyerdynamic DT880 (32ohm)

post #4 of 11
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Originally Posted by FairlyIncognito View Post
 

I've been looking at the Fidelio X1 and also the Sennheiser HD 598, but both are probably a problem for me.

X1 because they seem to be non-existent all of a sudden

 

The Fidelio X1 has been discontinued, in favour of the X2, although this is probably a little out of your price range at the moment.

post #5 of 11

ditto on the 545s and the beyers, the 550s might be too bass lite for the genres you prefer. For an open version of the the akgs, try the k240s.

post #6 of 11
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the replies so far guys.

I did consider just buying a new pair of CAL!, however I think I would like to re-cable them at some point. I do have some basic soldering skills, just need parts.

 

All of the headphones you guys have recommend so far all go for around 140-150 euros on thomann.de except for the DT 880's which are a bit more expensive.

I'm guessing an amp would benefit some of them? 

 

I have been looking at the DT770's before, so I am quickly swayed toward those. Which impedance "version" would be best for my genres, and what amp would go well with them?

I looked at Zombie_X's comparison, and the 32 or 80 Ohm seem to be the best fit for me, though not sure which.

 

The only thing I'm worried about with them is the non-detachable cable, though it does look relatively sturdy.

 

The AKG K545 also look interesting, but leaning towards the DT770 so far.

 

Thanks!

post #7 of 11
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Originally Posted by FairlyIncognito View Post
 

Thanks for the replies so far guys.

I did consider just buying a new pair of CAL!, however I think I would like to re-cable them at some point. I do have some basic soldering skills, just need parts.

 

All of the headphones you guys have recommend so far all go for around 140-150 euros on thomann.de except for the DT 880's which are a bit more expensive.

I'm guessing an amp would benefit some of them? 

 

I have been looking at the DT770's before, so I am quickly swayed toward those. Which impedance "version" would be best for my genres, and what amp would go well with them?

I looked at Zombie_X's comparison, and the 32 or 80 Ohm seem to be the best fit for me, though not sure which.

 

The only thing I'm worried about with them is the non-detachable cable, though it does look relatively sturdy.

 

The AKG K545 also look interesting, but leaning towards the DT770 so far.

 

Thanks!

 

I recommended the 32 Ohm versions as they are supposed the be the easiest to drive. However, in practice, I've found even the 250 Ohm Beyers are OK out straight of a smartphone / tablet, so long as you don't need to listen very loud! 

 

The 32 Ohm DT770 has a shorter cable, which is good for portable use, although it comes with pleather pads and I much prefer the velours (spare velour pads are cheap to buy from Thomann though)

 

The 80 Ohm version is supposd to have more bass than the 32 Ohm / 250 Ohm versions, but I haven't heard it so can't comment. I have heard both the 32 Ohm and 250 Ohm versions and, with the same pads on, they sounded more or less the same.

 

The DT880 is a class above, really very good!, although you lose the option to use as a portable, due to the open back.

post #8 of 11
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by sinnottj View Post
 

 

I recommended the 32 Ohm versions as they are supposed the be the easiest to drive. However, in practice, I've found even the 250 Ohm Beyers are OK out straight of a smartphone / tablet, so long as you don't need to listen very loud! 

 

The 32 Ohm DT770 has a shorter cable, which is good for portable use, although it comes with pleather pads and I much prefer the velours (spare velour pads are cheap to buy from Thomann though)

 

The 80 Ohm version is supposd to have more bass than the 32 Ohm / 250 Ohm versions, but I haven't heard it so can't comment. I have heard both the 32 Ohm and 250 Ohm versions and, with the same pads on, they sounded more or less the same.

 

The DT880 is a class above, really very good!, although you lose the option to use as a portable, due to the open back.

 

Yeah, I am definitely getting the extra velour pads, if I'm going for the 32 Ohm version.

 

I will probably only used them at home, so I would rather go for the ones that give me a better experience there.

 

The DT880's are not available in 32 Ohm on Thomann, they only have the 250 Ohm. Not sure where else to look. Amazon only have the Premium 250, which are most definitely out of my price range.

 

My budget could be able to afford an amp for either the 80 or 250 Ohm version of the DT770, if there is any in that pricerange.

Think that would be a better option than the 32 Ohm? If not, I might just get that with the extra velour pads.

post #9 of 11
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Originally Posted by FairlyIncognito View Post
 

 

Yeah, I am definitely getting the extra velour pads, if I'm going for the 32 Ohm version.

 

I will probably only used them at home, so I would rather go for the ones that give me a better experience there.

 

The DT880's are not available in 32 Ohm on Thomann, they only have the 250 Ohm. Not sure where else to look. Amazon only have the Premium 250, which are most definitely out of my price range.

 

My budget could be able to afford an amp for either the 80 or 250 Ohm version of the DT770, if there is any in that pricerange.

Think that would be a better option than the 32 Ohm? If not, I might just get that with the extra velour pads.

 

I don't think you'd need an amp for the 80 Ohm version. (In fact both the 250 Ohm DT770 and DT880 sound fine out of my laptop and iPhone unamped. They get louder when amped but it's not a significant difference in sound quality.)

 

As far as I am aware the 32 Ohm and 250 Ohm versions will sound the same (Beyerdynamic say they do). There may be slight differences, but they will be tiny. Every review I read says that the 80 Ohm DT770 *does* sound bassier though, so I would make your decision on the amount of bass you want.

 

For me, the 32 Ohm DT770 had similar levels of bass to the CAL! ( better bass, though, with deeper sub-bass) I'd expect the 80 Ohm DT770 to have a louder, boomier bass than that.

post #10 of 11
Thread Starter 

Alright, thanks a lot for your help :)

 

I think I'll go with the 32Ohm and get the velour pads as well.

post #11 of 11

No problem - happy to help!

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