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post #1 of 18
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I'm a complete newbie to audiophilia. I was recently introduced to the world of SACDs and now I'm after a decent pair of headphones to listen to my set-up while the rest of the household is in bed!

I've done some browsing on this forum and other sites and I've been interested in the Grado SR60s and the Sennheiser HD590s, but the Philips SBC HP890 has most caught my attention. They seem to be a balance between the two. Unfortunately as I'm from the UK auditioning headphones is difficult, so I'm hoping for some advice here.

My budget is about no more than £120 (est. $200). However I've noticed a lot of cans cost more in the UK. Especially Grado.

If anyone can give feedback regarding the Philips I'd appreciate it, and other suggestions to would be great.
post #2 of 18
Where I am in SG, the HP890 costs like 30 pounds. So do you think stuff in UK costs more? The Marantz players (or most other hifi stuff) costs a lot less here than in UK.

Back to the sound of the cans you mentioned, the philips, while known for their sound per dollar value here, can't quite match up to the 590s or the grados.
post #3 of 18
The HP890s are more sastisfying than Grado SR60s and if they're cheaper than them id definately recomend the philips, ive never heard the hd590 but they're renowned for being a bit thin and shrill... i feel the same way about the SR60s.

When i bought the 890s i felt it was a good upgrade from the sr60s but its not quite as effortless as the SR60s in the upper ranges... more than made up for by its deep satisying bass though in my oppinion
post #4 of 18
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Originally Posted by zoot2boot
When i bought the 890s i felt it was a good upgrade from the sr60s but its not quite as effortless as the SR60s in the upper ranges... more than made up for by its deep satisying bass though in my oppinion
I applaud you for your choice of preference. I believe that music and sound preference is very personal and as such, no two person's requirements are the same. You might like this over that, but another person, that over this. So, to each his own and if you like the 890s' sound, glad that you found something to your preference!
post #5 of 18
Alessandro MS-1 for 99$. Made by Grado, comparable to the SR-125 for a much lower price in Europe
http://www.alessandro-products.com/headphones.html

But beware, Grado headphones leak a lot of sound. If you want something closed, I'd recommend the Ultrasone HFI-650 from http://home.t-online.de/home/meier-audio/ which is a balanced and fun sounding phone.

-Taurui
post #6 of 18
fredthered: The HP890 is quite a nice headphone for the price; fairly extended sounding with good detail, but it also tends a bit to shrill treble... Most problematic for me was the fit, though - as the automatic headband mechanism seems to be on the weak side and clamping force is quite low, the earcups hung rather heavily on my ears. Thus I'd recommend to order it from a vendor to whom you can give the phone back in case the fit doesn't work for you, either...

Greetings from Hannover!

Manfred / lini
post #7 of 18

Philips HP 1000

First of all, i am a newbie and sorry for my poor english. Yesterday i´ve bought a Philips HP 1000 from next Store for testing, because the HP 890 was recommended in this Forum and i can give it back within 14 days, if i dont like it. I plugged it in my AV-Receiver and let it burn in for two hours. After that I heard ist first and was surprised about the good sound quality. Rock and pop makes really a´lot of fun with it, a bit more than classics, because Soundstage was a bit pour. In the next Days i will get my used Creek OBH-11SE and hopefully my new Sennheiser HD 650 to compare. BTW in Germany the best price for the Sennheiser in webshops ist 325,-€ and for the Philips HP 1000 99,-€. Thats really a big difference in price and i am courios about Price/Performance from the Sennheiser HD 650 in compare. Next week i know more and will tell you my experience, especially about the Philips HP 1000 at Creek amplifier.

Can someone tell me somthing about Philips HP 1000 vs. Philips HP890?
post #8 of 18
It is a good headphone. Very cheap compared to what you get.
But they are very big. What I dislike with them is that I can't listen lying on bed. They are so big so they lock you to the pillow. You can't move your head! If you sit up they are comfortable, but a little warm as all circumaural phones. Very good quality.

Georg
post #9 of 18
I'd second this opinion. It has a big soundstage and can be a fun headphone for tv-watching, but it's not in the same league as the ms-1's. They're too big for my head as well!

Quote:
Originally Posted by lini
fredthered: The HP890 is quite a nice headphone for the price; fairly extended sounding with good detail, but it also tends a bit to shrill treble... Most problematic for me was the fit, though - as the automatic headband mechanism seems to be on the weak side and clamping force is quite low, the earcups hung rather heavily on my ears. Thus I'd recommend to order it from a vendor to whom you can give the phone back in case the fit doesn't work for you, either...

Greetings from Hannover!

Manfred / lini
post #10 of 18
awesome...
for the longest time I felt like I was the only proponent for the 890. They are great headphones. I find with most midrange phones, they excel at alot of things, but usually have one glaring flaw. The 890 are like the AT A900 in the sense that they seem to do everything well, but nothing really great. I feel that they are alot less analytical sounding then the ATs though.

They have some issues with the joints developing hairline cracks, due to a design issue, but I have thrown mine around for over two years now and they are still fine.(Though the tiny little fissures are there)

Also, they are great computer headphones as their lower sensitivity doesn't make for a screech fest as the grado's are likened to do.
post #11 of 18
In case anyone thinks that I am against the HP890, I'm not! In fact, I am tempted to get them just because they are so cheap here. I mean, 30 pounds... The sound is forgiving in more ways than one and when you hook it up to the laptop, you really dun want it to be too revealing either, which then makes it an advantage.

What I am saying is, you can't compare them to phones 2-3 times the price!

chamix : you can't quite compare the HP1000 with the Senn HD650. Different league altogether. But in terms of price/performance ratio, for ANY hifi/hobby related equipment, there's the law of diminishing return. You pay 3 times the price for 50% improvement, not 300% improvement. Then you pay another 3 times the 3 original 3 times for another 25% improvement.
post #12 of 18
i think you'll find that grados are not really 2-3 times the price, just that the local distributor for grado charges silly prices... i paid half of what i paid for the 890s for sr60s.. and i didn't think the 890s were overpriced. its just grado is a bit wack.
post #13 of 18
One of the main draw of the 890s' the price. This kind of performance at this price point, that's nice. In SG, the price for the 890's like S$70-80 and the grados probably about $125, just to give you an idea.
post #14 of 18

Grado in Germany extremly overpriced

The reason maybe is that Grado is rare in Germany. I found a pricelist in a webshop which sells Grado, as an example the SR 60 for 127€ (153$). The Philips
HP 890 kosts 51€ (61$). Of course, if you look on ebay, you will find the Grados a bit cheaper, but not so much. Another example is Sennheiser HD600 and Grado SR80 kosts the same 179€ (215$). I think thats the reason nobody i personally know owns a Grado headphone.

peekarwe: thank you for answering. I knew the law of diminishing return. I just wantend to know how good the Philips are, in my own opinion, because they are so cheap. Actually i cant get a HP890 for testing, so I take HP1000 (The german Hi-Fi magazine Audio gave them the same soundpoints). Therefore I really like to know the diferrence between the two Philips cans. Cant find a comparision review on Head-fi.
post #15 of 18
I also have the philips HP 890 headphones, i find them decent, the highs can be a little shrill and fatiguing at times, but they are fairly revealing and have a superb price/performance ratio. Ibought them just for 65$ and i find them quite upto the mark with that kind of price, they are excellent for movies with their awesome soundstage and fair for music, and great for gaming. THe bass is also quite enjoyable.

The bottomline is they are worth the price you pay for, although they cannot probably compared to higher end headphones like sennheiser HD 600/650.
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