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Originally Posted by meadomakr View Post

New to amps but the E12A is what I chose. So far not too impressed - sorry! Soundstage is flat and bass sort bleeds all over in a muddy way. Volume bass kinda maxed out and meh. Using cable it came with, an iPhone, and 1More e1001 IEMs- which I'm also not thrilled with! I was trying to keep it economical but obv I gotta spend more. Would a diff connector help?I may not have the ideal setup

 

Your IEMs are not the best, and you're double amping the signal. You need something with Line Out to feed the signal to E12A to take full advantage of its sound. 

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Originally Posted by Dobrescu George View Post

Your IEMs are not the best, and you're double amping the signal. You need something with Line Out to feed the signal to E12A to take full advantage of its sound. 
post #1323 of 1332
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Something with line out? Plz explain
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Something with line out? Plz explain

 

E12A is an amp, it is supposed to take in Line signal, not headphone out signal.. 

 

If you're using the headphone jack of any device, you're feeding it headphone signal, which is amped already. Double amping distorts the signal and it will sound worse than the original source - E.G. your phone

 

The idea is to use an amp with a device that has line out signal . Line out is unamped signal with high voltage, while amped signal has lower voltage but higher power. 

post #1325 of 1332
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Originally Posted by Dobrescu George View Post

E12A is an amp, it is supposed to take in Line signal, not headphone out signal.. 
thanks for that! So are you talking about using a DAP instead of the iPhone with this setup?

If you're using the headphone jack of any device, you're feeding it headphone signal, which is amped already. Double amping distorts the signal and it will sound worse than the original source - E.G. your phone

The idea is to use an amp with a device that has line out signal . Line out is unamped signal with high voltage, while amped signal has lower voltage but higher power. 
post #1326 of 1332
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Originally Posted by meadomakr View Post

Something with line out? Plz explain
He's suggesting using a dedicated DAP that has a line out rather than using the headphone out of your phone. I agree with George that running your headphone out into your amp is the problem and not the amp. Like he said, double amping is ruining the sound.

ETA: You could look into a DAC to use with your phone. You'd need the lightening connector. Something like an Oppo or E17k and use your digital out instead of the headphone out.
Edited by fourrobert13 - 3/21/17 at 6:52am
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I recently got the E12A, the amp sounds nice but i find that even at the lowest volume it's still a bit too loud for me when I'm in a quiet room. (I'm using Westone UM PRO 10). I think I'm going to need something with higher impedance

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Originally Posted by mrconfuse View Post

I recently got the E12A, the amp sounds nice but i find that even at the lowest volume it's still a bit too loud for me when I'm in a quiet room. (I'm using Westone UM PRO 10). I think I'm going to need something with higher impedance
What do you have it paired with? Some DAPs allow you to adjust the line out signal to accommodate this. I know my FiiO X3II and X5II would allow me to do it.
Edited by fourrobert13 - 3/21/17 at 8:54am
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What do you have it paired with? Some DAPs allow you to adjust the line out signal to accommodate this. I know my FiiO X3II and X5II would allow me to do it.

 

Very good advice! 

 

 

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Originally Posted by mrconfuse View Post
 

I recently got the E12A, the amp sounds nice but i find that even at the lowest volume it's still a bit too loud for me when I'm in a quiet room. (I'm using Westone UM PRO 10). I think I'm going to need something with higher impedance

 

You can get one of those impedance increasers if you feel the need ;)

 

But yeah, E12A is pretty strong 

 

Also, make sure your gain is on low. 

post #1330 of 1332

I'm pairing it with the original AK100 (AK100 had a 22ohm and all my IEMs are low impedance). Without the E12A bass and sub-bass is sorta of anemic. it's like the drums and snares were all moved into another room while the strings and vocals were in one room. I tried one of those impedance adapters but from what i can tell they won't fix impedance mismatch.


Edited by mrconfuse - 3/21/17 at 9:33am
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I'm pairing it with the original AK100. Without the E12A bass and sub-bass is sorta of anemic. it's like the drums and snares were all moved into another room while the strings and vocals were in one room.
I have no knowledge regarding the features of that DAP. Perhaps someone else can chime in that does.
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Thx guys- really appreciate the info!
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Originally Posted by fourrobert13 View Post

He's suggesting using a dedicated DAP that has a line out rather than using the headphone out of your phone. I agree with George that running your headphone out into your amp is the problem and not the amp. Like he said, double amping is ruining the sound.

ETA: You could look into a DAC to use with your phone. You'd need the lightening connector. Something like an Oppo or E17k and use your digital out instead of the headphone out.
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