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post #226 of 2588

Started work on my review:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/products/mrspeakers-alpha-prime

 

 

 

 

Feedback and questions are very welcome!

 

 

Greetings to all,

 

CasperBxl

post #227 of 2588

I would say that right now the Alpha Prime is rated #668 on that list.

post #228 of 2588
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Originally Posted by john57 View Post
 

I would say that right now the Alpha Prime is rated #668 on that list.

 

 

Well we all have to start somewhere ...   :-)   ... More reviews will help.

post #229 of 2588
Had a chance to hear Alpha Prime at the NYC regional meet in Stamford driven by Cavali Liquid tub amp as well as new Crimson amp and they sound great way better than Alpha Dogs plus I really enjoyed them straight from RWAK100. So if you don't have enough bass while recording has one blame your DAC and /or amp not the headphones
post #230 of 2588
Definitely top favorite next to the prime/liquid glass being first.
post #231 of 2588

I would love to get the chance to listen to these headphones on a high-end rig here in europe. :smile_phones: Or does just USA and Japan get all the good stuff :rolleyes: (meets, that is)


Edited by Ookazi - 11/16/14 at 6:58am
post #232 of 2588

great review! thanks!

post #233 of 2588
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Originally Posted by CasperBxl View Post

Started work on my review:

http://www.head-fi.org/products/mrspeakers-alpha-prime




Feedback and questions are very welcome!


Greetings to all,

CasperBxl


How much power does your Centrance HiFi M8 amp output at 50ohm?
post #234 of 2588
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Originally Posted by olegausany View Post

Had a chance to hear Alpha Prime at the NYC regional meet in Stamford driven by Cavali Liquid tub amp as well as new Crimson amp and they sound great way better than Alpha Dogs plus I really enjoyed them straight from RWAK100. So if you don't have enough bass while recording has one blame your DAC and /or amp not the headphones

Yes, the Alpha Prime sounded great out of both setups and I believe is a significant stepup from the Alpha Dogs, which is also a great can.
Edited by Colgin - 11/16/14 at 8:28pm
post #235 of 2588
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Originally Posted by mikemoo View Post


How much power does your Centrance HiFi M8 amp output at 50ohm?

 

I can only quote the website:

 

Analog Specs

 
 

Freq. Response

20 Hz...50 kHz (flat EQ circuit)

 

S/N Ratio

113 dB (A-weighted)

 

THD+N

0.002 % (mid gain position)

 

Crosstalk

-103 dB (at 1kHz)

 

Output Impedance

1, 2, 11 Ohm, selectable

 

Output Power

1.4 W (max), 1 W (typical)

 

Headphones

16...600 Ohm

 

Output voltage

-2 dBV (nominal, max gain) use with less-sensitive over-the head headphones

   

-10 dBV (nominal, mid gain) use for connecting to line-level consumer audio equipment

   

-22 dBV (nominal, min gain) use with ultra-sensitive IEM headphones

http://www.centrance.com/products/hifi-m8/

 

I hope that can somewhat answer the question.

 

I got the Centrance by evaluating reviews, Head-Fi forums AND by MrSpeakers who confirmed it works great with the Alpha Prime (and Dog).

 

 

Keep in mind:

The Centrance M8 is NOT an AMP ... so it needs a digital IN, so always DAC/AMP mode.

In my case i chose the LX as that version has he optical in, that i use in combination with my AK 100 II.

 

A FIIO E18 or something of the likes can also serve as a pure AMP, or in DAC/AMP mode, but no optical IN.

 

 

With kind regards,

 

CasperBxl


Edited by CasperBxl - 11/16/14 at 9:41pm
post #236 of 2588

Once I am able to accumulate some more funds and the glut of early adopters thins out, I think that upgrading my Mad Dog Pro to the Alpha Prime could be a very sensible purchase. :D I'm looking forward to reading more impressions!

post #237 of 2588

Is the 4-pin XLR wiring option for AP same as Audeze ? I'd imagine it is just a standard soldering config.

post #238 of 2588
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Originally Posted by Lohb View Post

Is the 4-pin XLR wiring option for AP same as Audeze ? I'd imagine it is just a standard soldering config.

The xlr end is a standard but the connection at the headphone is different.
post #239 of 2588

Hey guys, I just wanted to post te same question I posted in the other Alpha Prime thread here, as I realized this one is probably the better one to do it in:

 

I currently own an LCD-2 pre-fazor from 2013. I was about to buy an LCD-2f since I have some issue with pre-fazor version, the same issues the fazor was designed to fix. I auditioned a Hifiman he-560 for two weeks in my home, and an HD800. each for two weeks. The hd800 was too bright, but overall lives up to its reputation, was not a keeper for me. The he-560 was almost a keeper, but its slightly hollow tone, small ear pads, and lack of soundstage depth (proportionally in direct comparison with the hd800 and LCD-2), ultimately didnt make them a keeper either. So recently I found out about the Alpha primes, and it has gotten me really curious. I knew about the previous iterations mrspeakers has done, and they were in a lower fidelity range than I was looking at so I didnt give them a try, but acknowledged there was a large following. So seeing all this great talk about the Alpha prime, and the fact they are the exact price of an LCD-2, I would love to hear if anyone has directly compared these to an LCD-2? (obv ignoring the whole open vs. closed back thing. I have a slight preference for the closed and better comfort as a selling point though, but sound quality wins overall as the deciding factor, so I need to know the difference purely on sound).

 

Thanks in advanced!

post #240 of 2588

@ saxelrod92

 

I don't have any experience with lcd-2. But I have been listening to both Alpha Prime and lcd-3 (pre-fazor) in last few days. I will probably post some notes of my experiences with them compared to each other during the Thanksgiving break next week . Here are some summative thoughts.

 

They are quite different hps. The lcd-3 has a fuller, warmer, thicker sound. Just like many have described, the lcd-3 has magic mids, warm, lush and intimate. It gives a magnificent presentation of slowly to moderately paced operas and classical singing. As such, the lcd-3 is in poor synergy with my Little Dot Mk iii tube amp which makes the sounds too thick and mellow, lacking resolution and speed. The lcd-3 seems to have a rosy filter (or 'veil') which makes some elements sound good but for large orchestra works and fast music (e.g., some songs by Elton John) where voice or instrument separation is important, the lcd-3 shows serious weaknesses.

 

In comparison, the AP exceeds in overall dynamics and high resolution over the full frequency spectrum. The bass is tight, well-defined and impactful while the highs are more extended without being harsh. Individual sound elements were well separated, each with its natural, accurate timbre and texture (with a slight touch of sweetness, perhaps). It appears to have a darker dark background with each sound presented in great clarity. In my last post, I mentioned that listening to the AP is like sitting in a studio with the sound sources very close while listening to the lcd-3 may be like sitting in the middle rows of a music hall (cf. Ken Rockwell's review of the lcd-3; but this does not describe well the intimate feeling of voices in some recordings I have listened to with the lcd-3).

 

In short, the lcd-3 can do wonderful things with some music sources but the AP is overall a more versatile, capable tool for most genres due to its high speed, resolution and lack of obvious coloration.

 

Just my 2 cents. I am also waiting for the views from some veteran head-fiers on this subject. Cheers.

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