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FiiO E12 or E17?

post #1 of 16
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Hello, I am very new to all of this. I own a pair of Audio technica ATH 50's and a pair of Sennheiser hd 598's. I mostly listen to the AT's with my phone at school and the 598's usually stay home and are used with my laptop. I don't have a firm grasp on the difference between the two other than the E17 is a DAC/AMP and the E12 is just and amp. My computers DAC is not terrible as far as I can tell but again I'm no expert.Is the extra 20-30$ worth it for the E17, or would it be wiser to just get the E12 at this point? I appreciate the help.

post #2 of 16
will be using the DAC/amp with your phone? Also, the fiio E12's amp is much better than the internal amp of the E17.

If you want to use the DAC function on an android phone, i recommend a E18. The E17 will not work.

You can also go for the new FiiO X1 Digital audio player as that is quite cheap too
post #3 of 16
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Originally Posted by TripBitShooter View Post

will be using the DAC/amp with your phone? Also, the fiio E12's amp is much better than the internal amp of the E17.

If you want to use the DAC function on an android phone, i recommend a E18. The E17 will not work.

You can also go for the new FiiO X1 Digital audio player as that is quite cheap too


Yes I will be using it with my phone, and it is an Android, will it not work at all? I assumed it would only with the 3.5mm jack. But thank you this makes me think that the E12 may be a better choice, but I have not looked into a E18 at all. Honestly I will probably be using this more with the HD 598's with my computer.

post #4 of 16
if you are using this with your computer, than go for the E17. But for on the go usage you will be limited to only the amp, which is lousier than say that of a much cheaper FiiO E11k. This is due to most of the cost being put into the DAC section
post #5 of 16
if you get a FiiO E18 to use with your computer and phone, you can then use the DAC with your android phone.

For this, you need a USB OTG cable, so your phone outputs a digital signal through the USB port to the DAC and amp of the fiio e18 to be converted and amplified and then sent to your headphones
post #6 of 16
you may be thinking why use the USB port on your phone instead of the 3.5mm jack? That is because anything outputted through the 3.5mm jack has already been converted to an analogue signal by the phone's lousy internal DAC, so you output a clean, unconverted digital signal to the E18 for conversion
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Originally Posted by TripBitShooter View Post

if you get a FiiO E18 to use with your computer and phone, you can then use the DAC with your android phone.

For this, you need a USB OTG cable, so your phone outputs a digital signal through the USB port to the DAC and amp of the fiio e18 to be converted and amplified and then sent to your headphones


Thank you, this is very helpful. My last question is this. You had mentioned that the amp in the E12 is superior to the one in the E17, I assume this would be the case for the E18 as well?

post #8 of 16
Yes this is the case. in fact the E12 is FiiO's best amp.
post #9 of 16
actually, what phone is yours? And if you want to do more desktop listening and would rather not bring an amp/DAC out, you can buy a FiiO E10k desktop amp anf USB DAC, then buy a E12 and connect it via 3.5mm interconnect to the line outof the E10k. This bypasses the E10k's inferior amp to the E12
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Originally Posted by TripBitShooter View Post

actually, what phone is yours? And if you want to do more desktop listening and would rather not bring an amp/DAC out, you can buy a FiiO E10k desktop amp anf USB DAC, then buy a E12 and connect it via 3.5mm interconnect to the line outof the E10k. This bypasses the E10k's inferior amp to the E12

My phone is a Samsung Galaxy S4.

post #11 of 16
that would have a decent enough DAC, so you can can just get the E10k and hook up the E12 to the line out (not the headphone out) of the E10k. This would provide you with good desktop sound. also, your files matter too. lossless files are recommended
post #12 of 16
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Originally Posted by TripBitShooter View Post

that would have a decent enough DAC, so you can can just get the E10k and hook up the E12 to the line out (not the headphone out) of the E10k. This would provide you with good desktop sound. also, your files matter too. lossless files are recommended

In that situation, I would recommend researching a combo dac/portable amp. JDS Labs C5D or a Leckerton should do you nicely. Note that the C5 (the C5D without the amp) and the Leckerton amps were both rated just above the E12 in this shootout: http://www.head-fi.org/t/620775/the-sub-200-portable-amps-shootout-13-11-amps-compared (rankings follow the reviews)

Otherwise, the E17 is quite good for the money. If spending more money is kind of a burden for you, I would say go with the E17.
post #13 of 16

Fiio E12 is a very simple and powerful portable amplifier with bass boost function.
I use it with the JVC HA-SZ2000 which are bass monsters. The battery is also very good and lasts for approximately 12 hours. Battery charging via USB on your computer is not recommended, because it takes 4h and creating a disturbance if you listen at the same time. I'm 
recharging my E12 through an AC adapter for phone, which is faster around 2h. 

If you choose E12 watch out not to burn your headphones. :basshead::basshead:

 

Sorry for my bad english.

post #14 of 16

If you don't have a good source buying just an amp isn't do you any good. I bought Fiio Andes and I just can't use my Xonar ds for music listening. The difference is huge.

post #15 of 16

I would not recommend the E12 for easy to drive headphones like the M50 since it has a high noise floor.  It should pair well with the HD598 though.

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