or Connect
Head-Fi.org › Forums › Equipment Forums › Headphones (full-size) › Ultrasone New performance Series: 840, 860 & 880 (First post last update : 2014/12/07)
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Ultrasone New performance Series: 840, 860 & 880 (First post last update : 2014/12/07) - Page 7

post #91 of 505
For me the Ultrasone Performance series are kind of The Signature Pro but more affordable , the cable of the Sig Pro fit the Performance series , for those who tend to use the Performance series for an to the go listening , i think that the shorter cable of the Sig Pro is better than the shorter stock cable of the 880 .
post #92 of 505
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dopaminer View Post
 

Okay this is from memory, and not all that fresh memory, because the Ultrasone room was on the 6th floor and Sony was on the 13th, so quick A-Bing was impossible.  I was using the same 9 Flac tracks to demo all the `phones.  

 

Ahmad Jamal - The Line and One 24bit

Shapeshifter - The System is a Vampire

Pitch Black - South of the Line

Kaya Project - The Fortress

Erykah Badu Live - Stay

Halie Loren - Whiter Shade of Pale

DaveMatthewsBand - Save Me 24bit

Cassandra Wilson - Soloman Sang 24bit

 

I believe the 880 has significantly more high-frequency details than the Sony; however, I would definitely say the Sony is smoother.  As I mentioned, there was a threat, a seeming risk, of harshness in the 880 highs.  I`m not saying they were or are harsh, just that I could easily imagine not liking the high frequencies coming out of it with some tracks.  This is similar to my HD800 - never really bad, though sometimes almost.  If that makes any sense.  From what I`ve heard about Ultrasone, they have a reputation for harshness, or what many people perceive as harshness.  I only demo`d one very high-end Ultrasone, A-Bing with HD800, HD700, T1, and I remember disqualifying it immediately, because of harshness/thinness.  

Also, IMO the 880 is flatter FR overall than the Sony, which seems more v-like or at least bass-heavy, relatively.  

 

Regarding soundstage, I would describe them as equal - equally great.  Better than Alphadog Primes and 1540, in my memory.  

 

Both the 880 and z7 are great phones.  I would really really love to do a side-by-side with these two.....

Hello, love the impressions, thanks a lot. Really peaked my interest on these cans.

I assume that leakage is better than the Z7's, seeing as the isolation is so much better?

Also, how do these compare to the HD700's, since you mentioned them? They're my best headphones so I would love to hear a small comparison.

Are these much smaller than the Z7's? I'm going to be wearing them at the office. It's currently a deathmatch between these and the Z7's.

Also, would these be easier to drive than the Z7? I have a Fiio E17 through a Macbook at work, which probably is what I'll be using until I have the money to upgrade to a better DAC/AMP.

 

Thanks. :)

post #93 of 505

I haven't sold all headphones I have listed yet but... well... had to buy these... Will probably not get them until after November 15 but order is done. We'll see how they perform...

post #94 of 505
Quote:
Originally Posted by daphen View Post
 

Hello, love the impressions, thanks a lot. Really peaked my interest on these cans.

I assume that leakage is better than the Z7's, seeing as the isolation is so much better?

Also, how do these compare to the HD700's, since you mentioned them? They're my best headphones so I would love to hear a small comparison.

Are these much smaller than the Z7's? I'm going to be wearing them at the office. It's currently a deathmatch between these and the Z7's.

Also, would these be easier to drive than the Z7? I have a Fiio E17 through a Macbook at work, which probably is what I'll be using until I have the money to upgrade to a better DAC/AMP.

 

Thanks. :)

Hey thanks.  I  wish I had some better answers for you.  The only thing I can clearly feed back is that the 880 is considerably smaller/lower profile than the Z7.  The cups and pads are thinner; diameter-wise they are similar (880 might even be a bit bigger) but overall the Z7 is a `full size` headphone.  It also doesn`t fold at all.  The 880 cups rotate so you could lay them flat against your chest, and they fit into a bag, next to a laptop for example, whereas the Sony is a much more 3 dimensional package.  

 

These are impressions and guesses:

Regarding leakage, the Sony has those vents, which definitely leak sound.  But I did several checks at various volumes and decided it wasn`t a big enough issue for me to worry about  (i really hate the noise that leaks out of people`s headphones, and do not want to be one of them) The better isolation of the 880 also comes from the pad thinness, I believe.  The Sony pads are really thick and cushy, but I assume they let more sound in, and therefor out.   If your office is quiet, then I would say there is a higher probability that someone nearby will hear some leakage from the Z7, rather than the 880. 

As for ease of driving, I stupidly forgot to keep my eye on that.  I was using the iBasso PB2 portable amp, which drives my HD800 just fine at around 12 o`clock.  I noticed when I was trying the Hifiman HE-560, I had the PB2 on MAX volume.  I didn`t notice anything about volume levels with the 880 or Z7, so I`m guessing the volume range on the PB2 was between 9 and 3 o`clock.  The Z7 is 70ohms at 102db/mW.  I can`t find  a clear sensitivity figure for the 880 - it says 32ohms and SPL of 92db. (not db/mW and I don`t know if they are the same or not).  Given that the short cable on the 880 is like an iem cable and has an inline mute button (and possibly a mic - the rep wasn`t sure) I`m guessing Ultrasone expects people to drive them out of a phone or ipod.  So your E17 should be fine.  

 

To be honest the only thing making me pause on the 880 is the cable issue - I really want to reterminate whatever closed HP I get with the iBasso hirose connector and use in balanced mode.  The Sony is the obvious choice for that....  Though of course it may just be placebo. 

 

The Sony also just oozes quality so there`s the whole pride-of-ownership placebo factor in that as well.  

 

The 880 definitely sounded better to me, so I should just stop flailing around and get it.

 

Good luck with your decision !

 

d
 


Edited by Dopaminer - 10/27/14 at 5:10pm
post #95 of 505
Quote:
Originally Posted by gelocks View Post

I haven't sold all headphones I have listed yet but... well... had to buy these... Will probably not get them until after November 15 but order is done. We'll see how they perform...

Which model did you get buddy? I think I'm going to try the 840.
post #96 of 505

Yes! Please demo the 840 for us bassheads, Frank!

 

You have heard all the major basshead cans out there so you could give us the best idea/ comparison.

 

The 840 is probably the one I'd be most interested in, but most people seem to be talking about the 880 here.

post #97 of 505
I just sold my HE-400 so kind of thinking that's where I'm going. Looking for a portable for outside stuff and I like the low-profile of these much like the Edition 8.
post #98 of 505

I just bought the Q40, and it is really enjoyable! Loads of bass on it!

 

Replacing the pads made it even better, I find it really good for those same purposes (portable, outside cheap headphone)

post #99 of 505
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oregonian View Post


Which model did you get buddy? I think I'm going to try the 840.

 

Bought the 840s and 880s... :)

post #100 of 505

Very interested in your thought on the 880 gelocks. As a former Sig Pro owner you know what I'm hearing now...

post #101 of 505
Quote:
Originally Posted by gelocks View Post
 

 

Bought the 840s and 880s... :)


Sweet! Can't wait to hear what you think!

post #102 of 505
Quote:
Originally Posted by gelocks View Post
 

 

Bought the 840s and 880s... :)

Love to hear some comparisons.  I didn`t even try the 860 or 840.  Now I`m wondering why .. . . . 

 

They`ll all be in the shops here next week ! 

post #103 of 505
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dopaminer View Post

 

To be honest the only thing making me pause on the 880 is the cable issue - I really want to reterminate whatever closed HP I get with the iBasso hirose connector and use in balanced mode.  

 

d
 

Ultrasone cans are very easy to recable even if they don't look friendly from the outside. It's a simple open up and unsoldering of the interconnect wires and re-terminating them. Hell, the old Ultrasone pro series had the second cups slotted for drilling for DIY already. I'm sure it wasn't intentionally for that, but rather to cut costs, but it was practically made to be DIY'd. The 880 is probably not much harder. 

 

I really hope the 880 is a headphone that Ultrasone will finally do right. I would be really impressed if it was well received enough to bring Tyll to do a review even though he basically despises Ultrasone headphones/sound signature like the plague. Time will tell, I guess. 

post #104 of 505
found some posts in a foreign forum. seems positive. (Click to show)
 
First, I am pleased that the old and ugly head bands were finally replaced. They will draw on the design of the Edition 8, the 880 sat with me but still comfortable. 
It still uses a lot of plastic, the weight is very low. 

Positive, I noticed that the 880 has no such lofty peaks, like the Edition 8 or 5 next to it. Overall, the vote is relatively neutral, albeit typical Ultrasone my feelings to not quite natural. 
He reminded me of the HFI-780, but slightly warmer, slightly more plastic body. The HFI-780 but I have not heard for a long time to be able to judge the objective. So strong bass as the 580 did not appear to me at least. 

Nevertheless, one of the most pleasing Ultrasone I've heard so far. If you like S-Logic with closed headphones, should keep an eye on him. 

20140920-9627 20140920-9630 20140920-9631
 
Trance_Gott 
Inventory
 # 4 created: Oct 04 2014 09:551.gif
Well the Ultrasone finally larger pad used here. The Sig Pro is here very closely. Too bad the S Logic Ex is not yet used. This is the highlight of the Ed.5 for me. 
Hopefully no metallic sound a la HFI 780 is for me the most unnatural Ultrasone.
 
CornDrums 
Is more common here
 # 5 created: Oct 06 2014 23:061.gif
Have also heard of the Performance series, but if the 880 is reminiscent of the 780, 
then I have me definitely saved € 100 4.gif
Which pieces as an example because you can hear that? The Metallic sound I mean. 
Feel the sound in rap, rock and jazz (Miles Davis) really pleasant. 

Offtopic: What amazes me, however, that the iQ Pro In Ear cheaper than the normal iQ 
is. Is this with RRP € 450 for ever Competitive?
 


[Post by CornDrums on Oct 06 2014 23:23 edited]
Bath-frequency Listen ... 
Is more common here
 # 6 created: Oct 07 2014 15:531.gif
Sodele, today went on the part of my new Ultrasone Ultrasone PERFORMANCE 840 on the journey to me will reach me tomorrow hopefully. 

I'm particularly excited about the memory foam ear pads and -Kopfpolster, ie, how comfortable and soft, hopefully without too much contact pressure he will sit on my eavesdroppers - because I am very sensitive namely terms which contact pressure. 

In addition of course to the sound, have specially taken from the three with raised bass (also because me 379 euros were too expensive for the 880 and I was unsure at 880, if not maybe more neutral-course-sober-businesslike, analytically comes along, so all that which I do not like) because you assured me by Ultrasone, this would not be chargeable to the heights. I eventually want to have my good old tub frequency yes. At least he should similarly well "höhig" and "bassy" sound like my reference headphones Beyerdynamic DT 990 Pro.
 


[Post by Bath-frequency receiver on Oct 07 2014 15:54 edited]
Bath-frequency Listen ... 
Is more common here
 # 7 created: Oct 08 2014 10:251.gif
Sodele, today my PERFORMANCE 840 and get the same times tried. 

Sits definitely still -despite me tight Anpreßdrucks- very pleasant by the memory foam padding on the ears and head. Would even say (still to tight contact pressure times exterior admitted) that of the previous ULTRASONE Ironing headphones (my butter soft lightweight headphone Ultrasone HFI-15G times do not count), I already was wearing as there would be 
Hfi-580, 
HfI-2400, 
DJ1, 
DJ1Pro, 
Pro450, 
Pro550, 
Pro750, 
PRO900 
Pro2900 
Edition8 
SIGNATURE PRO 

the PERFORMANCE840 by far the most comfortable is, softest and most comfortable thing to ears and head, and in terms of the general upholstery seat. 

As for the sound: all these I have already heard of Ultrasone, exceeds the PERFORMANCE 840 mE also has it but unlike many of the enumerated but crystal clear non-cutting and not shrill treble plus much more and better bass. Yes even more bass than the PRO900. 

Would even argue that the ULTRASONE PERFORMANCE 840 sound on sound, at length, to space, to heights even on bass even surpasses the previous reference Beyerdynamic DT990Pro hail.gif , 
I'm in seventh heaven 1.gif

Now I just have to "get rid of" too tight contact pressure, which I'll solve it as my Beyerdynamic and Superlux - I stretch the headphones on the wide side of the KH-boxes over several hours (if necessary days) and "chant" him by the fact, that is stretching / wide him. 

hail.gif ULTRASONE, you have surpassed the performance 840s my expectations and finally with a Ultrasone headband headphones, the like sound and Wear technically me, blessed me, after I have been fond of Ultrasone only the lightweight headphone Hfi-15G (the but since tens of years) because the others listed above Ultrasone KH either uncomfortable or sat me offered too little bass or had to shrill / sharp highs. 

So now I have two reference KH with the DT990Pro and the Performance840 with whom I my wonderful classic with "oomph", so you can enjoy percussive orchestral music.
 


[Post by Bath-frequency receiver on Oct 08 2014 10:31 edited]
Huo 
Regular
 # 8 created: Oct 08 2014 11:351.gif
Thank you for the report. Experienced readers of course know that the euphoria is highest in the first few hours, but there are at least the first experience and we are happy to accept. 
beerchug.gif
That the 840 even more bass than the PRO 900 has of course been an interesting information. I think that he is less popular here in the forum, but I wish Ultrasone so much success with the other bass-heavy competition. 

I have also written a long time no more review and somehow excites me the 880. Maybe I will put it to me once. 5.gif As for comfort, I have already reported positive.
 
vanda_man 
Inventory
 9 created: Oct 08 2014 11:481.gif
So I'm interested in a lot of bass with Ultrasone S and Logic 4.gif
 
sofa streamer 
Inventory
 # 10 created: Oct 08 2014 11:581.gif
huo, now the 880 and a review of yours is set. when finished? angry.gif
 
Anarion 
Regular
 # 11 created: Oct 08 2014 11:581.gif
 
Huo (post # 8) wrote:
I have also written a long time no more review and somehow excites me the 880. Maybe I will put it to me once.5.gifAs for comfort, I have already reported positive.


Do it! beerchug.gif
 
Enelium 
Is more common here
 # 12 created: Oct 08 2014 19:441.gif
 
vanda_man (post # 9) wrote:
So I'm interested in a lot of bass with Ultrasone S and Logic4.gif


Ultrasone Signature DJ haste, the ever tried? 5.gif
 
Elhandil 
Inventory
 # 13 created: Oct 09 2014 05:401.gif
I would indeed be very happy if the 880 has a similar Signature Pro vote. I like the sound that is very good but squeezed me in such ears off, that it no longer is solemnly.
 
Bath-frequency Listen ... 
Is more common here
 # 14 created: Oct 09 2014 11:581.gif
 
Huo (post # 8) wrote:
Thank you for the report.Experienced readers of course know that the euphoria is highest in the first few hours, but there are at least the first experience and we are happy to accept.
beerchug.gif
That the 840 even more bass than the PRO 900 has of course been an interesting information.I think that he is less popular here in the forum, but I wish Ultrasone so much success with the other bass-heavy competition.


After the performance I've been wearing now 840 yesterday, and half the night, I still want a little "replacement delivery". 

So, the PRO900 I had before about ner week on the eavesdroppers. From the low memory I would say that the PERFORMANCE840 is bassy at least as, if not more. My BEYER DYNAMIC DT990PRO he tops at least as far as bass and he also has the better heights. 

What I find absolutely amazing on PERFORMANCE840 is that absolutely does not sound like a closed headphone, but as an open, absolutely crystal clear and spatial sound quality. 

The memory foram pads are just heavenly soft. However, the contact pressure is still enormous, and not just enjoyable, hope lies down yet (even by my stretch / Weitungsübungen that I make as described in the previous post. 

Currently PERFORMANCE840 me the sound is the dearest, but from the comfort of her still BEYER DYNAMIC DT990PRO with its far far lower contact pressure.
 


[Post by Bath-frequency receiver on Oct 09 2014 12:01 edited]
Trance_Gott 
Inventory
 # 15 created: Oct 09 2014 19:251.gif
 
Elhandil (post # 13) wrote:
I would indeed be very happy if the 880 has a similar Signature Pro vote.I like the sound that is very good but squeezed me in such ears off, that it no longer is solemnly.

The Ed.9 goes towards Sig Pro both have the same driver. The Ed.9 is slightly warmer with a little more bass and better space. Geiler KH and can rock without even the end of the TH900 out of breath 4.gif But also for large ears nothing, unfortunately. 
The performance series especially the most neutral probably 880 would interest me. But has to stop with me so slowly 5.gif
 
Elhandil 
Inventory
 # 16 created 10 Oct 2014 05:101.gif
On the high end I was also quite taken by the Edition 12, super comfortable and very relaxed sounding.Well, in 20 years the house is paid off, then the price is no longer a problem. 4.gif
 
Trance_Gott 
Inventory
 # 17 created 10 Oct 2014 06:081.gif
 
Elhandil (post # 16) wrote:
On the high end I was also quite taken by the Edition 12, super comfortable and very relaxed sounding.Well, in 20 years the house is paid off, then the price is no longer a problem.4.gif

When the inflation rate in 20 years, the Edition will cost 1 € 30,000 4.gif
 
spawnsen 
Regular
 # 18 created 10 Oct 2014 07:001.gif
I really looking forward to the new, in particular he sees me visually very appealing and well made from. If it is true that he waived the pointed and / or sharp highs, I empfände this as a great step forward. I liked the house sound of Ultrasone never really liked; the listening experience for me was always kind of "uncomfortable", "stressful" and "hard." Yesterday I HiFi Studio Ed. 12 and the Ed. 8 heard because she just stood there, and knew after a short time, why I previously could not get warm with Ultrasone.
 
michael4321 
Regular
 # 19 created 10 Oct 2014 08:001.gif
 
When the inflation rate in 20 years, the Edition will cost 1 € 30,000


Until then, then hopefully the hearing impaired sound engineer, which soundet the headphones so far, in retirement.
 
Anarion 
Regular
 # 20 created 10 Oct 2014 08:591.gif
Sig Pro, DJ, ED9 are really reasonable Ultrasone, or have you not heard about this and just want to generalize? Their only weakness is the Ultrasone typically much too high price. Realistic prices for Signatures would include 399-449.
 
inexxon 
Is more common here
 # 21 created 18 Oct 2014 06:041.gif
Hello, 

I now had the new Ultrasone Performance 880 here, because I wanted to buy myself look a closed headphone for TV, but I must say that this is my first Ultrasone headphones anticipated. 

After unpacking, I was surprised by the high quality of workmanship and the look of the new 880, the comfort is also top notch up to the high pressure of the certainly could be a problem for some larger heads, this is, however, probably be, in time, may you bend the bracket according Support Ultrasone, the manufacturer offers excellent way Kundenbetreung. As an accessory, a 1.2 m and 3 m connection cable as well as an alternative to the protein leather upholstery, additional Velour upholstery is available. 

So until then all the best, we come to the sound: At first, the sound is very balanced, very good resolution and spatially, drops after some time one on the deep bass range but is slightly more dominant than the rest, which sometimes good, sometimes bad fits. The treble response I felt after the first fortuitous also not present and S-Logic worked quite well for me. 

Actually, I was after the first half hour already believe to have found the right model, just the sounds of some instruments, such as guitars, etc. sounded with the Ultrasone very well. Unfortunately, it turned then but after prolonged listening with me discomfort and the sound left in some higher frequencies the impression to have a certain sharpness and Unatürlichkeit. So I had the otherwise very beautiful Ultrasone unfortunately again send back. 2.gif Maybe I'll try again later with the larger models of Ultrasone, or the smaller brother 860, my first impression of the Ultrasone was quite positive.
 

VERY LONG SORRY. I will delete it if I need to. 

post #105 of 505

Can't wait to get them hopefully in a couple of weeks!!

I received an oldie Ultrasone HFI-650 DVD Edition (which I believe is the same as HFI-700...), fun cans... definitely v-shaped with a bit harsh highs but not bad for $53 bucks. ;) (wondering if I should get Alpha pads for those! LOL I know...)

New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Headphones (full-size)
Head-Fi.org › Forums › Equipment Forums › Headphones (full-size) › Ultrasone New performance Series: 840, 860 & 880 (First post last update : 2014/12/07)