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post #76 of 505
For portable use, I'm thinking 840 as it is supposed to be the bassiest of the three.

I would also like to know how the supposedly linear 860 compares to the Focal Spirit Pro.
Edited by marcswede - 10/20/14 at 6:29pm
post #77 of 505
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Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD View Post
 

Any1 else interested in the 840? There gotta be at least some bass junkie around, especially when we're talking about Ultrasone headphones which often have a nice punchy impactful bass. :p


Hey all,

 

My 840s arrived on the 21st but sadly i have been very busy at work to spend a great deal of time breaking them in. I can say that i was immensely impressed with the 'out of the box' sound quality. Remembering how my 580s sounded at the start (ok) and how good they became gives me a lot of optimism at how much better these will be 100 hours of burn time from now. I will be spending time directly comparing them to the 580s as the 840s are the ideal next step for those whole love the bass of the 580s but perhpas are seeking more of the rest as well. The one thing i dislike is the asthetics. They look terrible when being worn, unfortunately as a side effect of trying to be clever in the design. The cups are large and Ultrasone obviously wanted to minimize the profile from the head, so they ran the headband in line with the top of the head and were able to reduce the line of the joint which physically attaches the cups to the headband. Logically this makes a lot of sense. In reality the contrast between the tight line of the headband and the huge cups actually emphasises the cup size even more.....to the extent where i would not feel comfortable wearing them out in public...................maybe with a hat :)

 

Style isn't a big deal to me to be honest, but IMO i think they look bad when worn.

 

Cheers,

 

Togsy

post #78 of 505

Looking forward to more impressions and pics ! 

post #79 of 505
Thread Starter 

Looking forward to receive my package from Ultrasone France. :popcorn:

post #80 of 505
Thanks for your impresions TopTog! I'm looking forward to your comparisons, as I have the HFI 580 myself smily_headphones1.gif

I know that style and estetics are individual, but I think the new Performance series looks a lot like Edition 8. Especially the style of the Headband.




While I don't think they're by a long shot as good-looking as the Ed8, I must say the Performance Family get an O.K. in my book. YMMV of course tongue_smile.gif
post #81 of 505
Thread Starter 

 

 

A friend fo mine tried these new Ultrasone . He gave us good impressions especiallly with the 880.. and he's not an Ultrasone fanboy.

 

Still waiting to test them...


Edited by Sorrodje - 10/24/14 at 10:02am
post #82 of 505

Alright, I spent some quality time with the 880 today at the big `phone show in Tokyo.  I got there early and there were only 2 other people in the Ultrasone room, so I had a good, long listen.  I then spent about 2 hours listening to other HPs, the ones I consider (my) rivals for the 880.  They are :

 

Shure 1540

Sony Z7

Alphadog Prime

 

Then at the end I returned to the Ultrasone room and had another long listen.  I was listening out of the iBasso DB2/PB2 balanced dac/amp set, using my dx50 as transport.  Below are my notes, made while listening to the 880, and after asking a few questions to the suave Ultrasone rep:

 

Negatives

 

-They are somewhat plasticky, especially compared to the Z7 and even the 1540

-The cable is 3-wire, and one-sided, so I believe that effectively eliminates balanced operation

-On some of my more highly complex, high-dynamic range tracks (Shapeshifter; Erykah Badu`s `Stay` from the live album) there were hints of harshness in the higher frequencies that I heard.  I worry that they may be fatiguing for longer sessions...  

 

Positives

 

-Crazy light

-They fold to lay flat

-Includes L and S cables, pleather/velour pads, neoprene case.  Short cable is like and IEM cable. 

-Crazy awesome isolation; like having earplugs in (!).  Better, for me, than any of the above rivals by a significant margin. 

-Fit / Comfort is excellent.  Headband is awesome - the silver inner parts that attach to the cups is very solid metal (my guess is aluminum) and the center of the headband is approx. 10cm of memory metal.  I mentioned to the rep that the clamping force was quite high and he bent them out so far that you would be able to play tunes for your pet elephant with them.  I bent them in again and experimented and found a blissful level of comfort/weightlessness with only a minimal loss of isolation. 

-These are amazingly detailed to my ears.  They were the only one of the four that made me think of closed HD800s.  I`m serious. I have a lot of highly complex music and these things were mindblowingly good.   

-The bass is unbelievably good, both with full-on deep electronica like  Pitch Black and Kaya Project, and also on acoustic double bass in 24bit modern Jazz like Ahman Jamal and Marc Johnson.  I was shocked, really; i did not expect bass like this from Ultrasone.  I preferred the Ultrasone bass to the Shure and Sony, by a wide margin.  

-These sound like a serious hifi headhone to me, with relatively flat FR and no messing around like the Shure and Sony (and Senn DJ HD80) which I think will work out better for me in the long run, as fun as those other cans are to listen to.  

 

So that`s it.  These are definitely in first place in my search for a closed Headphone for the road, to compliment my HD800.

post #83 of 505
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Originally Posted by Dopaminer View Post
 

Alright, I spent some quality time with the 880 today at the big `phone show in Tokyo.  I got there early and there were only 2 other people in the Ultrasone room, so I had a good, long listen.  I then spent about 2 hours listening to other HPs, the ones I consider (my) rivals for the 880.  They are :

 

Shure 1540

Sony Z7

Alphadog Prime

 

Then at the end I returned to the Ultrasone room and had another long listen.  I was listening out of the iBasso DB2/PB2 balanced dac/amp set, using my dx50 as transport.  Below are my notes, made while listening to the 880, and after asking a few questions to the suave Ultrasone rep:

 

Negatives

 

-They are somewhat plasticky, especially compared to the Z7 and even the 1540

-The cable is 3-wire, and one-sided, so I believe that effectively eliminates balanced operation

-On some of my more highly complex, high-dynamic range tracks (Shapeshifter; Erykah Badu`s `Stay` from the live album) there were hints of harshness in the higher frequencies that I heard.  I worry that they may be fatiguing for longer sessions...  

 

Positives

 

-Crazy light

-They fold to lay flat

-Includes L and S cables, pleather/velour pads, neoprene case.  Short cable is like and IEM cable. 

-Crazy awesome isolation; like having earplugs in (!).  Better, for me, than any of the above rivals by a significant margin. 

-Fit / Comfort is excellent.  Headband is awesome - the silver inner parts that attach to the cups is very solid metal (my guess is aluminum) and the center of the headband is approx. 10cm of memory metal.  I mentioned to the rep that the clamping force was quite high and he bent them out so far that you would be able to play tunes for your pet elephant with them.  I bent them in again and experimented and found a blissful level of comfort/weightlessness with only a minimal loss of isolation. 

-These are amazingly detailed to my ears.  They were the only one of the four that made me think of closed HD800s.  I`m serious. I have a lot of highly complex music and these things were mindblowingly good.   

-The bass is unbelievably good, both with full-on deep electronica like  Pitch Black and Kaya Project, and also on acoustic double bass in 24bit modern Jazz like Ahman Jamal and Marc Johnson.  I was shocked, really; i did not expect bass like this from Ultrasone.  I preferred the Ultrasone bass to the Shure and Sony, by a wide margin.  

-These sound like a serious hifi headhone to me, with relatively flat FR and no messing around like the Shure and Sony (and Senn DJ HD80) which I think will work out better for me in the long run, as fun as those other cans are to listen to.  

 

So that`s it.  These are definitely in first place in my search for a closed Headphone for the road, to compliment my HD800.

Awesome. I am definitely eyeing those

 

How would you describe the highs on the 880 vs Sony Z7?

How was the soundstage on the 880?

post #84 of 505
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Originally Posted by ForceMajeure View Post

 

 

How would you describe the highs on the 880 vs Sony Z7?

How was the soundstage on the 880?

Okay this is from memory, and not all that fresh memory, because the Ultrasone room was on the 6th floor and Sony was on the 13th, so quick A-Bing was impossible.  I was using the same 9 Flac tracks to demo all the `phones.  

 

Ahmad Jamal - The Line and One 24bit

Shapeshifter - The System is a Vampire

Pitch Black - South of the Line

Kaya Project - The Fortress

Erykah Badu Live - Stay

Halie Loren - Whiter Shade of Pale

DaveMatthewsBand - Save Me 24bit

Cassandra Wilson - Soloman Sang 24bit

 

I believe the 880 has significantly more high-frequency details than the Sony; however, I would definitely say the Sony is smoother.  As I mentioned, there was a threat, a seeming risk, of harshness in the 880 highs.  I`m not saying they were or are harsh, just that I could easily imagine not liking the high frequencies coming out of it with some tracks.  This is similar to my HD800 - never really bad, though sometimes almost.  If that makes any sense.  From what I`ve heard about Ultrasone, they have a reputation for harshness, or what many people perceive as harshness.  I only demo`d one very high-end Ultrasone, A-Bing with HD800, HD700, T1, and I remember disqualifying it immediately, because of harshness/thinness.  

Also, IMO the 880 is flatter FR overall than the Sony, which seems more v-like or at least bass-heavy, relatively.  

 

Regarding soundstage, I would describe them as equal - equally great.  Better than Alphadog Primes and 1540, in my memory.  

 

Both the 880 and z7 are great phones.  I would really really love to do a side-by-side with these two.....

post #85 of 505
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Originally Posted by Dopaminer View Post
 As I mentioned, there was a threat, a seeming risk, of harshness in the 880 highs.  I`m not saying they were or are harsh, just that I could easily imagine not liking the high frequencies coming out of it with some tracks.  This is similar to my HD800 - never really bad, though sometimes almost.  If that makes any sense.  From what I`ve heard about Ultrasone, they have a reputation for harshness, or what many people perceive as harshness.  I only demo`d one very high-end Ultrasone, A-Bing with HD800, HD700, T1, and I remember disqualifying it immediately, because of harshness/thinness.  

Very interesting, many thanks for your impressions!

 

They seem to be the first closed hi-fi headphones, but I'm very concerned about the harshness. Is the Ultrasone 880 more harsch than the T1 or dt880? Which one is less fatigueing?


Edited by HiSenn5 - 10/26/14 at 7:01am
post #86 of 505

I have the 880 for about one week now , i can't say that it is harsh , they were a little sibilant , but much less then the ED8 that i use to have . For me it is not fatigueing at all, the sound quality is oustanding, perhaps the best on his price range . I use to have also the Shure SRH1540 and the Beyerdynamic T70P , i can say that the 880  is far superior . Hope it will help . Thanks

post #87 of 505

I tried them at the show and I'm going to borrowed the burned-in demo models soon. If you didn't like the usual Ultrasone models, you might like these. The much bigger cups makes the sound far more spacious. The 840s are more bass-heavy, the 860s are bright with a lighter bass and the 880s in the middle. The difference between them is essentially driver coatings.

 

Here's the quick video I asked Michael Zirkel to do for me about them: 

 

post #88 of 505

My god guys, please no....Why have the impressions been so amazing and good for the 880!? Are they that much of a homerun? Do I really have to upgrade from my Pro 900s to the 880s? :'( Ouch my wallet...

post #89 of 505
Thread Starter 
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Do I really have to upgrade from my Pro 900s to the 880s? :'( Ouch my wallet...

 

From the first impressions I read,  i don't think the 880 will replace a pro900. it seems those headphones are very different. Maybe the 880 is a better headphone but they apparently don't share the same sound signature.

post #90 of 505

To me these look really nice. I'm always looking for nice portable closed headphones

 

I've own the Sig Pros for sometime now and I do like them a lot. Wondering if Ultrasone has taken the sound even further now..

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