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Tom's Hardware Guide E-MU 1820 review

post #1 of 26
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http://www6.tomshardware.com/video/20040611/index.html

I've never seen reviews of "Audiophile"-type stuff on this site. They usually do pretty good reviews. I gotta admit, though, I only skimmed this one. sorry bout that, I've been lazy this morning >_<

In any case, just thought i'd post this in case it's of use to anyone.
post #2 of 26
Impressive how much they had done to review the card, always nice to see that they care for what they review, BUT:

Quote:
Some users will be irritated by the impossibility of using the E-MU card for games and DVDs. The only solution would be to install a second sound card. We used a USB sound card, but it should be possible to get a Creative Audigy card (such as the Audigy 2 ZS to stay at the same level of quality) and an E-MU card to work side-by-side.
(http://www6.tomshardware.com/video/2...u_1820-16.html)

Makes me think that the reviewer just said to hell with RMAA and all the "studio work" they have done, when they think the ZS is even "at the same level of quality". That's blasphemy.
post #3 of 26
Nice! Good heads up!
post #4 of 26
Two things
1) Why didn't they test the card at 96khz and 192khz
2) Why didn't they mention that the 1212m uses the same converter as the 1820m and not the lower grade one that the 1820 uses and why on earth weren't they testing the m models to begin with?!?
post #5 of 26
They were testing it with G750 multimedia speakers...
post #6 of 26
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Originally Posted by Jasper994
Two things
1) Why didn't they test the card at 96khz and 192khz
2) Why didn't they mention that the 1212m uses the same converter as the 1820m and not the lower grade one that the 1820 uses and why on earth weren't they testing the m models to begin with?!?
1. They are using WDM driver.
2. May be they forgot/don't know/don't bother.
post #7 of 26
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Originally Posted by yeeyy
1. They are using WDM driver.
2. May be they forgot/don't know/don't bother.

You're probably right, but those were meant more as rhetorical questions that were intended to suggest the lack of knowledge and concern when it comes to high quality audio from the average non-audiophile.
post #8 of 26
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Haha, now I see why they don't normaly do "high-end" audio-stuff reviews... because they have no clue.

I think the Audigy thing makes sense, since most people (sadly) consider Audigy to be the "best" for lots of things. I can disprove this, but whatever.

Also, the testing with lame speakers... well.. most people only use PC speakers. Although they're not horrible, I think Klipsch sounds alright for the money/space/etc.

As far as reviewing only the non-M versions....

Sorry if their review was devoid of useful information.. perhaps I posted it too hastily

On the good side of things... this shows that an audiophile-level card is appearing on places where "the masses" visit... so the PC Quality Audio Revolution may yet be happening.
post #9 of 26
Yeah, I rely on Tom's Hardware's reviews for everything.......

-Ed
post #10 of 26
Quote:
Originally Posted by Daroid
Makes me think that the reviewer just said to hell with RMAA and all the "studio work" they have done, when they think the ZS is even "at the same level of quality". That's blasphemy.

Ie, Audigy2 for games provides the quality that the Emu's do for music.
post #11 of 26
Damn...who cares what speakers they used to audition the card with? They hardly said a thing about the sound quality anyway, which is completely subjective. Their big thing was the measurements.
post #12 of 26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Edwood
Yeah, I rely on Tom's Hardware's reviews for everything.......

-Ed
Duh! They're the BEST.



ACtually, I find most of their reviews to be pretty good... though they're definitely Fanboys with one or two pieces of hardware.. but I forget which ones those are (haven't visited the site in a bit). Oh well.
post #13 of 26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Distroyed
Ie, Audigy2 for games provides the quality that the Emu's do for music.
Not so fast.

Yes, the Audigy complies to many *measured* things game related.. i.e. it can pump out 5.1, THX, EAX, etc.

But something more subjective, i.e. sound *quality* i'd say the Audigy lacks. I played Diablo II and Battlefield 1942 on my Audigy 2 ZS, then immediately afterwards played them on my Stock E-MU. True, the Audigy had a little more realistic soundstage and whatnot probably because of EAX, but I didn't really care. The E-MU only sounded "lacking" when compared directly to the Audigy, and the sounds themselves sounded so much more real and convincing.

I think i've said this before... it's really about what you look for. If you've got a nice speaker setup and you want perfect enviro-effects and soundstage/placement, continue to use an Audigy. If you want those sounds to actually sound REAL, use an E-MU. And, hey: the E-MU's soundstage/placing only gets better with a Black Gates mod. w00t.
post #14 of 26
Another review maybe worth having a look at:
DigitLife

funny how creative regional offices are sending 1820 cards to review sites and not the better performing (in measures, and hopefully subjective listening) 1212m/1820m
post #15 of 26
That's because the 1820 has the functionality that a pro is looking for without paying that premium for the better dac. Many people don't care all that much for budget oriented projects. My friend, for example picked up an 1820 because he didn't want to pay for the m version on something so insubstantial. Functionality is king for him and many others.
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