For those of you that have used an android device before, is there anything even remotely close to the app Poweramp? I have that on my galaxy note 3 and after listening with that everything on my iPhone 6 plus sounds limp.
It's to the point where i might even use the note 3 as a dedicated music player

Im trying neutron right now and the controls are confusing and it still doesnt have that low end kick like poweramp does.

Im using sennheiser ie80 + galaxy audio silver cable + comply foam

I've tried Neutron music player on my IP6+ and feel that the native music app sounds better. Any other audiophile music player app recommendations with better sound fidelity than the native app?

wwyjoe said:

I've tried Neutron music player on my IP6+ and feel that the native music app sounds better. Any other audiophile music player app recommendations with better sound fidelity than the native app?

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Maybe the settings were not set in-depth as Neutron has a multitude of settings that can drastically change the sonic output, may it be more of a 3D sound, surround sound, etc.

Also, the EQ settings are very powerful if you know how to use them correctly. Sometimes if you do not set a non-native app's settings to what sounds best to you, it may very well sound worse than the smartphone's native application. That's why with Neutron I didn't just set it and forget it, I actually learned what each setting would change, and set/tweaked accordingly. This is after trying the other third party iPhone apps that have equalizer settings and not finding any that sounded better after A/Bing each one.

The thing that's great though is that the iPhone has several music/media player apps to use and there is bound to be an app out there that sounds the best to you or is easier to use, as Neutron may not be the easiest to use for those who may think the explanations and settings are difficult to understand. I do love using Spotify as well and may be easier for the masses to comprehend regarding changing their individual settings as they really only have a few that affect SQ to change, like streaming quality, EQ by genre and frequency EQ, etc.

If anyone is having issues with particular music/media player app, try another one, and another one, and then another one, until you find one that is right for you.

moedawg140 said:

   
I concur.  My fiancé came from a 4S, and other than wanting the smaller body of the 4S for about a week after she got her 6 in Gold, she really likes the 6 now.  She likes the speed of it, and being able to talk to me in HD audio-like quality phone calls and FaceTime video calls.
 
How do you like the audio quality compared to the 4S?

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I meant a step up audio-wise but I agree on all the other counts except perhaps that the size of the damn thing can sometimes make itself akwardly felt. I gave my 4S away as soon as I got the 6 so take my impressions with a grain of salt but at least my feeling was that it sounded significantly better through my Re-400s.

The less you fiddle with the digital data the better resolution of low level sounds. Digital processing on the fly on a mobile degrades audio. That's pure math. If you want to mess with number around you are better off using 24 bit (digits) material and powerful processors (not lion powered processors if possible) in order to minimize quantization errors. Bob Katz's "Mastering audio: the art and the science" leaves it clear as light of day.
 
Back to topic my impressions on iPhones are that they are all very capable to drive iems with very good quality. Had 3Gs, a 4s, 5 and now 5s. Tried a couple of times 6/6+. My favorite is the 5s as i find it a bit more clear, tight and open than their peers. But you mileage may vary of course. I will put more time into the 6/6+ but i think that 6s will be the real thing as 3Gs was better than 3g, 4s was better than 4 and 5s was better than 5. Apple always seems to step up the audio game on the s devices.

I realize this is perhaps OT but where better to ask?????
 
Anyone having difficulty staying logged into Head-Fi on your iPhone 6+/ 8.02?  I cannot. Each time I try to post from a email, I have to log in, even if I just did 2 minutes ago!

saraguie said:

  I realize this is perhaps OT but where better to ask?????
 
Anyone having difficulty staying logged into Head-Fi on your iPhone 6+/ 8.02?  I cannot. Each time I try to post from a email, I have to log in, even if I just did 2 minutes ago!

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nope, i'm logged in always

elfary said:

The less you fiddle with the digital data the better resolution of low level sounds. Digital processing on the fly on a mobile degrades audio. That's pure math. If you want to mess with number around you are better off using 24 bit (digits) material and powerful processors (not lion powered processors if possible) in order to minimize quantization errors. Bob Katz's "Mastering audio: the art and the science" leaves it clear as light of day...

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Not to get too OT, and I'll try to make it short, but untouched does not mean it sounds better to every person's ears. There have been many a discussion about EQ on Head-Fi regarding the points you have mentioned just about every day in some form or fashion. I have come to the conclusion that yes, not changing your audio settings and wearing a 'neutral' IEM is great if you want an even keel, very level sound. For others, that type of sound is simply for lack of a better word: boring. Some are willing to sacrifice a few bits here and there to tailor the sound to their liking. I fall between both camps. Sometimes I want to listen with no EQ and 'flat' settings. But there are those times where I just want to bob my head a little more, so that means adding a few more dB to the bass EQ or adding in little U-shape to my custom EQ to add a little flavor (that still sounds great to me) to my music. Basically, tailor the music to what you want and what sounds the best to you and don't worry about the small (and possibly insignificant to our ears) differences. It's not like we are using the awesome Hugo, which is best as the only DAC/Amp connected to your source - but if you (directed towards everyone) are using the Hugo, congrats!

saraguie said:

I realize this is perhaps OT but where better to ask?????

Anyone having difficulty staying logged into Head-Fi on your iPhone 6+/ 8.02?  I cannot. Each time I try to post from a email, I have to log in, even if I just did 2 minutes ago!

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What browser are you using? I usually use Dolphin Browser without any login issues. Make sure cookies are enabled in the particular browser you are using. Try restarting the device and try to email/login again.

saraguie said:

I realize this is perhaps OT but where better to ask?????

Anyone having difficulty staying logged into Head-Fi on your iPhone 6+/ 8.02?  I cannot. Each time I try to post from a email, I have to log in, even if I just did 2 minutes ago!

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What browser are you using? I usually use Dolphin Browser without any login issues. Make sure cookies are enabled in the particular browser you are using. Try restarting the device and try to email/login again.

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I am using Safari and DuckDuck Go as the search engine. I called Apple support; first tech nada, got kicked up a level to no avail, and now its gone to the engineers.
 
The tech asked if I had any other browser and I do have Dolphin like you. We tried Dolphin and no problem staying logged in. BTW, support said after I told him I had Dolphin, "That's an excellent browser"
 
I've had every iPhone model, almost all IOS and updates (unless I did not want to wait for a new jailbreak and skipped an update or 2), been a member here for a couple of years, and never had a problem until a week ago. 
 
So stay tuned and I'll let you folks know what they come up with.

saraguie said:

I am using Safari and DuckDuck Go as the search engine. I called Apple support; first tech nada, got kicked up a level to no avail, and now its gone to the engineers.

The tech asked if I had any other browser and I do have Dolphin like you. We tried Dolphin and no problem staying logged in. BTW, support said after I told him I had Dolphin, "That's an excellent browser"

I've had every iPhone model, almost all IOS and updates (unless I did not want to wait for a new jailbreak and skipped an update or 2), been a member here for a couple of years, and never had a problem until a week ago. 

So stay tuned and I'll let you folks know what they come up with.

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Cool. Since Safari does not have swipe to access tabs, I ditched and never used Safari from the get-go. I even used Dolphin on my tech job issued Droid back in the day. Dolphin does have a few issues that are being worked out regarding iOS 8 (even though they have a recent update) but all and all it is still a great browser compared to what's currently out there.

mephiska said:

  Hehe.  Took me a sec, but I see what you did there.
You mean for both the 6 & 6+, not implying there's a difference between them right?  Hardware-wise, there really is no difference between the two.   Same chips, same amps, same components other than the battery, screen & some camera parts.  There may be some voodoo in firmware but it's highly doubtful.
 
Anyway, I'm still hoping someone can get a good measurement on the Out-Z.  That said I'm actually pretty happy with the unamped output of my 6 paired with my Audio Technica IM02's.   The internal amp is good enough to drive these satisfactorily with most of the music I've thrown at it.
 
I've tested it with my E17 & E06, both set on the flat EQ setting and unlike my ATH-CK10 (55 ohm), I find very little difference between the two amps & straight iPhone 6 output with the IM02's (36 ohm).

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I haven't tried the 6+ yet, so I wouldn't know if there is a difference.  Probably not.  On the other hand, I'm either getting used to the base on the 6, or it's lost a little harshness through use.  One thing is for certain- it does sound better than the 5 (non-s).  The tuning is such that I would assume it pairs better with brighter headphones though.

My impression on the 6 v. the 5 is that the 6 expands the sound stage in terms of width and depth with a little loss of control on the low end of the frequency range.

The other day, I did a more extensive comparison of my US 6 to my Wolfson I9300. Used both Yamaha EPH100 and HifiMan RE400. Spotify Extreme with no EQ, both songs I know and songs I do not. While both are definitely in the very good - excellent category, I found the I9300 consistently a little bit better. Instruments sounds more accurate (I played trumpet for many years, and am pretty familiar with real world orchestra instrument sounds.) To give scores, I would say the 6 gets 90 and I9300 95. The 6 seems a  bit more dynamic, but very subtle. Differences are much less apparent in rock, than in things with horns, strings, piano, etc.
 
I am wondering if perhaps there is some L-R crossfeed in the 6. Reason I say this is there  was a passage where an instrument clearly was moving across the stage in the I9300; I tried several times and could not hear this movement in the 6.
 
It is certainly possible that some of the differences were due to differences between the Spotify apps on Android vs. iOS. There are quite a few differences between the two, and I find the Android one somewhat more evolved.
 
Also, fwiw, the RE400s were clearly my favorite of the two. In my comments the first few days, these were very harsh on the 6. This is gone now. It is possible there may be some more burn-in changes too, as I still have not used it that much.
 
If music was the only variable, I expect I would keep the I9300. But it is not, and I am not. And there is really no current Wolfson phone anymore. Wolfson was acquired... Samsung put its own chip in the latest Exynos phone... 

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There was/is a Apple cable that was offered when the iphone 5 came out... it has a wolfson DAC built into the connector...  and it also works with the iphone 6   so you can have a wolfson with a 6 if you want...
 
I'm playing with a iphone 6 and the ifi Micro...    very nice setup  ...   plays FLAC and DSD from the iphone 6...   best to have the 128 gb if you go this route...  sounds great.