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post #556 of 3796

For me, I enjoy the H3 much more than my IE800. I'm finding that the H3 has a bit more body to it while the IE800 sounds thin to me now.

That's why I'm really looking forward to getting the Z5 in a month.

post #557 of 3796
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Originally Posted by joey99 View Post
 

For me, I enjoy the H3 much more than my IE800. I'm finding that the H3 has a bit more body to it while the IE800 sounds thin to me now.

That's why I'm really looking forward to getting the Z5 in a month.


Another reminder that people hear things differently.

 

I owned H3 before buying Z5 and I'm also a happy owner of IE800. IE800 is in a completely different class than H3 i.e. much better to my ears. Yes, H3 was fun and interesting, but not as competent and accurate as IE800 (which is also fun btw).

Listening all day long to H3 and their heavy and over-emphasised bass can skew one's perception, but make no mistake - IE800 have plenty of kick, especially in the low Hz (actually I've read a lot of opinions where people were saying they wished IE800 had less bass).

 

Z5 does resemble H3, just taken to the next level. I perceive the biggest improvement to be in the highs which extend better and are less subdued; there is also less mid-bass bloat but still the low frequencies are strongly emphasised, probably a bit more than H3. I enjoy a lot Z5 and they became my day to day IEMs, but that being said they are far from accurate. And for critical listening there is no way they can compete with IE800. My 2 cents.

post #558 of 3796
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Another reminder that people hear things differently.

 

I owned H3 before buying Z5 and I'm also a happy owner of IE800. IE800 is in a completely different class than H3 i.e. much better to my ears. Yes, H3 was fun and interesting, but not as competent and accurate as IE800 (which is also fun btw).

Listening all day long to H3 and their heavy and over-emphasised bass can skew one's perception, but make no mistake - IE800 have plenty of kick, especially in the low Hz (actually I've read a lot of opinions where people were saying they wished IE800 had less bass).

 

Z5 does resemble H3, just taken to the next level. I perceive the biggest improvement to be in the highs which extend better and are less subdued; there is also less mid-bass bloat but still the low frequencies are strongly emphasised, probably a bit more than H3. I enjoy a lot Z5 and they became my day to day IEMs, but that being said they are far from accurate. And for critical listening there is no way they can compete with IE800. My 2 cents.

fully agree here.

post #559 of 3796

i don't tend to need great accuracy, more a euphonic-ish, detailed retrieval and big sound stage. The H3 has this,the ie 800 is better, so if the Z5 is a few notches above the 3,it'll do.

post #560 of 3796
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Originally Posted by Jackson 6 View Post
 

i don't tend to need great accuracy, more a euphonic-ish, detailed retrieval and big sound stage. The H3 has this,the ie 800 is better, so if the Z5 is a few notches above the 3,it'll do.

Z5 will definitely fit your needs.

post #561 of 3796
The more I use my Z7 the more I want to try the Z5...
post #562 of 3796
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Originally Posted by joey99 View Post

For me, I enjoy the H3 much more than my IE800. I'm finding that the H3 has a bit more body to it while the IE800 sounds thin to me now.
That's why I'm really looking forward to getting the Z5 in a month.
Agreed...

I've moved on, in a different direction (Shure SE846) and - yes, the IE800 is thin sounding - I've never disliked the H3 (although as you'll remember from our past exchanges, I've been at times confused by them!), but - what has put me off of the Z5 is the fact they poke out of your ears (never was a true fan of the TF10 / H3 fit / design) - if they sat flush, like a proper IEM, then Sony would have my money right now instead of Shure...
post #563 of 3796
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The more I use my Z7 the more I want to try the Z5...

 

I know ur not in toronto, but if you're ever in town swing by BayBloorRadio as they are selling the Z5 and you can audition all the IEMs there :)

post #564 of 3796
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I know ur not in toronto, but if you're ever in town swing by BayBloorRadio as they are selling the Z5 and you can audition all the IEMs there smily_headphones1.gif
That's great to know, thank you!
post #565 of 3796
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I know ur not in toronto, but if you're ever in town swing by BayBloorRadio as they are selling the Z5 and you can audition all the IEMs there :)

they have the z5 and z7 on demo specifically?

post #566 of 3796
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they have the z5 and z7 on demo specifically?


Not sure, you can try calling them to find out I guess. They are closed today though. I don't see why they wouldn't, considering they let me audition the SE846, IE 800 and IE80s. 

 

On a related note, I got to try the Z7 today at a sony store. They have the PHA3 and their mp3 players set up. Sounded decent out of my headphones as I wanted to test songs which I am familiar with. Wish I had more time to audition them. They are comfy as heck though. Shame they didn't have the Z5 on display.

post #567 of 3796

More impression after my Z5 reaches 100hrs burn-in:

 

- Treble becomes brighter, micro detail stands out more, more airy, so fantastic!

- Bass quantity decreases, quality improves. It becomes very deep and textured. Z5 bass tuning seems focusing on deep bass. sub-bass is there but not strong.

- mids is still rich, vocal still stays a bit behind of musical instruments, but I feel such vocal arrangement would not affect the whole imagery of Z5. It depends, definitely not the Shure fans' favorite.

- soundstage width is still the same, reasonably wide but become more surrounding. This soundstage is quite unique and I like it very much. Clarity also improves a lot.

- With such soundstage and performance, Z5 suits for long time listening.

 

Z5 requires burn-in and it has a significant improvement. Will report again when reaching 200 hrs burn-in.

post #568 of 3796
Damn, I read these impressions and they sound so much like what I am getting from the Z7 it makes me wonder if Sony has pulled off the improbable and has made an IEM and full-size headphone that truly match each other. I am holding off buying the Z5 as I just can't afford both right now but I do think the Z5 may end up on my list for next year.
post #569 of 3796
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Originally Posted by lomenhk View Post
 

More impression after my Z5 reaches 100hrs burn-in:

 

- Treble becomes brighter, micro detail stands out more, more airy, so fantastic!

- Bass quantity decreases, quality improves. It becomes very deep and textured. Z5 bass tuning seems focusing on deep bass. sub-bass is there but not strong.

- mids is still rich, vocal still stays a bit behind of musical instruments, but I feel such vocal arrangement would not affect the whole imagery of Z5. It depends, definitely not the Shure fans' favorite.

- soundstage width is still the same, reasonably wide but become more surrounding. This soundstage is quite unique and I like it very much. Clarity also improves a lot.

- With such soundstage and performance, Z5 suits for long time listening.

 

Z5 requires burn-in and it has a significant improvement. Will report again when reaching 200 hrs burn-in.


Could you block the vent (look carefully and you'll see it on the outer side of the housing, where the rectangular part of the housing meets the cylindrical part) and tell us how that effects the tonal balance?

Thanks.

post #570 of 3796

In terms of sub bass, is it louder on the Z5 vs the H3?

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