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post #511 of 3861
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Thank you very much for sharing your impressions Zsenger! :smile:

 

Nice setup you have there. 

 

 

Yeah, nice setup. :smile: Is that an iFi Nano iCAN there?

 

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Hmmm this is my first impressions done on head-fi , so might not be accurate with the terms used, or give a accurate impression/comparison  :/

 

Thanks for your impressions! You've certainly absolved yourself of any guilt now. :biggrin: 

post #512 of 3861

Haha yep, its IFI ican nano , its more of my headphone set up , being too hissy for most iems  :p

 

 

:D

post #513 of 3861
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Originally Posted by ZSenger View Post
 

Haha yep, its IFI ican nano , its more of my headphone set up , being too hissy for most iems  :p

 

 

:D

 

Anyway, allow me to welcome you to Head-Fi, and as we always say, sorry about your wallet! ;)

post #514 of 3861

Really enjoying the Z5's with all types of modern music. Things like edm, pop, dnb,

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Originally Posted by ZSenger View Post
 

Haha yep, its IFI ican nano , its more of my headphone set up , being too hissy for most iems  :p

 

 

:D

Is that the upgrade cable that you have in the picture provided?

post #515 of 3861
Yep! that is the upgrade cable. But I heard(from other users) that the Z5 sounded way better in balanced mode redface.gif
Edited by ZSenger - 11/18/14 at 2:10pm
post #516 of 3861
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Originally Posted by ZSenger View Post
 

Need more time with my fx 850 , have not touch them in a month of so...D:

No distortion from my A17, but i do hear a slight hiss(quite noticeable on some songs though) from my walkman , which is normal , as it happens when i use my iems with it, without using an amp.

With an increase of volume above 17ish or so through with my a17 , the Shh can sound alittle sharp, on some tracks.

I listen to all kind of genres , except metal i think.

Listen to more jazz , pop and orchestra/instrumental .

 

add:I do prefer my JVC-FX850 /im02 for most vocals though .

 

Hehe I meant distortion that's supposed to be there, in the music. Seems tough to reproduce convincingly for some IEM's. But I guess we're on opposite sides of the musical spectrum as I listen to almost no genres - except for metal.. :o

post #517 of 3861
Haha icic ,I am kinda a newbie here tongue.gif
Yeah haha :0
Maybe you should try multi BA iems from other brands , since sony multi BA (not sure about the recent ones ) do not use cross overs , instead tuned each of the armature to only reproduce a certain frequency(From what I remember reading somewhere).Hence not as revealing as some multi balanced armature iems, that use cross-overs.
Maybe (just guessing tongue.gif) multi BA iems with cross overs can help with the distortion sound, sounding more revealing, allowing for a more accurate distortion? Not so sure though...
( do not have knowledge of metal /distortion ( do not know how they should sound ), can't try test it out for you frown.gif you need to ask someone else for this
Edited by ZSenger - 11/19/14 at 7:14am
post #518 of 3861

Finally got the Z5, pair with my ZX1, sounds very impressive!

 

I believe the demo in local Sony Shop that I heard before might have the driver damaged, as the treble and mids of my one sounds even smoother than that demo. It sounds better than my Westone UM Pro 30, which is already very very good. So Z5 is superb!

post #519 of 3861

Please keep us updated!

post #520 of 3861

Found that the whole imagery of Z5 is quiet airy, satisfies its slogan 'Feel the Air'. Let me burn-in till 200 hrs and see.

post #521 of 3861
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Originally Posted by lomenhk View Post
 

Found that the whole imagery of Z5 is quiet airy, satisfies its slogan 'Feel the Air'. Let me burn-in till 200 hrs and see.

 

waiting for review :D

post #522 of 3861

I just got mine. I don't even know what to say. I am disappointed though.

 

This isn't a review so much as a gut feeling. I'm kind of a loner in my audio pursuits so I'm not well versed on terminology. And I don't have a wide range of experience. I've been using Shure 535s for a few years now and the 315s for a couple of years prior to those. I've just been plagued with the connection problems ever since I upgraded to the 535s and I'm tired of it so I decided to look for a change. Oh, and I've been using the TTVJ slim amp during all that time.

 

First thing I did was throw on Marvin Gaye's What's Going On album. There's so much going on right out of the gate with that album with all the layers of vocals, the walking bass, the strings, etc. With the Shures everything is crystal clear. You can hear all the voices talking behind him, his second vocal track dances around with his main track, the bass, while not pronounced, is still punchy. With the Z5s most of the vocals outside his main track are almost gone. Those that are audible feel lackluster. The strings seem blurred and the bass is fuzzy as hell and overwhelms the background vocals. I tried playing with the levels and I could get a bit more clarity out of the mids but not fully. Besides, I prefer to have those flat which works fine for my 535s and works great for my Grado PS1000s. Even with different settings I couldn't get anything to sound as clear.

 

Next I tried ZZ Top's First Album. The thing I love about that album, particularly the first two tracks, is the clarity of his guitar. I play myself and with the 535s it sounds like I'm in the same room as a guy with a guitar and amp. With the Z5s it sounds like he's in the next room through wall and I have a muddy sock around my head. I mean, the fuzz on his guitar sounds like it has fuzz, (as does his voice a bit).

 

Miles Davis' Kind of Blue is a little better over all when the full band is in swing but the opening is shot to pieces. With the Shures you can practically feel Chamber's fingers on the strings of his double bass. On the Z5s that level clarity is gone. Worst of all the bass overwhelms the Evan's piano just enough that they bleed together in the intro. It almost sounds like a production error.

 

Just to check the bass heavy angle I threw on Guru's Jazzmatazz, Vol 1. and they seem a lot better suited for Hip Hop. With the 535s I always felt there was too much space between his vocals and the music. His delivery could sound flat and disconnected from the funky grooves. With the Z5s the bass fills out that space and his voice floats on top of it. It feels much more engaging. DJ Qbert's Wave Twisters felt a lot more engaging as well with all the cuts more rounded out.

 

I didn't try any of my classical but since I love guitar driven music I did put on Son House. Just him and his National. With the Z5s it just lost all its life. Again the Shures more faithfully reproduce the sound of being there with the guitar.

 

So, any advice? My gut says return them pronto but I did order the MUC-M12SM1 OFC cables but they won't get here for a few weeks. Does anyone think those might make the difference I'd need?

post #523 of 3861

I'm thinking 30-50 hours of burn will tell you if these are going to get any better....

post #524 of 3861
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Originally Posted by foresme View Post
 

I just got mine. I don't even know what to say. I am disappointed though.

 

This isn't a review so much as a gut feeling. I'm kind of a loner in my audio pursuits so I'm not well versed on terminology. And I don't have a wide range of experience. I've been using Shure 535s for a few years now and the 315s for a couple of years prior to those. I've just been plagued with the connection problems ever since I upgraded to the 535s and I'm tired of it so I decided to look for a change. Oh, and I've been using the TTVJ slim amp during all that time.

 

First thing I did was throw on Marvin Gaye's What's Going On album. There's so much going on right out of the gate with that album with all the layers of vocals, the walking bass, the strings, etc. With the Shures everything is crystal clear. You can hear all the voices talking behind him, his second vocal track dances around with his main track, the bass, while not pronounced, is still punchy. With the Z5s most of the vocals outside his main track are almost gone. Those that are audible feel lackluster. The strings seem blurred and the bass is fuzzy as hell and overwhelms the background vocals. I tried playing with the levels and I could get a bit more clarity out of the mids but not fully. Besides, I prefer to have those flat which works fine for my 535s and works great for my Grado PS1000s. Even with different settings I couldn't get anything to sound as clear.

 

Next I tried ZZ Top's First Album. The thing I love about that album, particularly the first two tracks, is the clarity of his guitar. I play myself and with the 535s it sounds like I'm in the same room as a guy with a guitar and amp. With the Z5s it sounds like he's in the next room through wall and I have a muddy sock around my head. I mean, the fuzz on his guitar sounds like it has fuzz, (as does his voice a bit).

 

Miles Davis' Kind of Blue is a little better over all when the full band is in swing but the opening is shot to pieces. With the Shures you can practically feel Chamber's fingers on the strings of his double bass. On the Z5s that level clarity is gone. Worst of all the bass overwhelms the Evan's piano just enough that they bleed together in the intro. It almost sounds like a production error.

 

Just to check the bass heavy angle I threw on Guru's Jazzmatazz, Vol 1. and they seem a lot better suited for Hip Hop. With the 535s I always felt there was too much space between his vocals and the music. His delivery could sound flat and disconnected from the funky grooves. With the Z5s the bass fills out that space and his voice floats on top of it. It feels much more engaging. DJ Qbert's Wave Twisters felt a lot more engaging as well with all the cuts more rounded out.

 

I didn't try any of my classical but since I love guitar driven music I did put on Son House. Just him and his National. With the Z5s it just lost all its life. Again the Shures more faithfully reproduce the sound of being there with the guitar.

 

So, any advice? My gut says return them pronto but I did order the MUC-M12SM1 OFC cables but they won't get here for a few weeks. Does anyone think those might make the difference I'd need?


I had the same feeling. Keep listening though - you may find something you like about them.


Edited by xedjflowx - 11/21/14 at 4:30pm
post #525 of 3861
Give the IEM some time to burn and more importantly your brain because this signature is a polar opposite to what your used to. If after using these for a week you still find it unacceptable return them while you can (if you can).
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