Marantz HD-DAC1
Mar 28, 2015 at 11:29 AM Post #331 of 1,279
Has any used there's marantz to output audio to a marantz bluray player? Or to a another amp and dac to be able to use headphones?
I have a amp and dac by "Schiit Audio" that I want to use for my earbuds but there's no optical audio out on my marantz sr5009, so how can I output audio into a optical audio cord way so I can use my Schiit Audio with it?

I recently tested inbetween my Marantz headphone jack and my Schiit and, I got to say Schiit sounded better.
As a sterio and speakers its great,
But I still want to use my earbuds with it when I don't want to blast music

 
1. which Schiit DAC do you have ? 
2. you appear to have optical out on the back of the SR5009 - both coaxial and Toslink from the image I grabbed on google images
3. assuming your DAC has optical in (coax or Toslink), you're set. The Modi 2 Uber, Bifrost and Gungnir all appear to have both coaxial and Toslink inputs. Consult the manual for your SR5009 to see if there is a setting that disables either of your outputs - it shouldnt have been enabled by default, but it will definitely leave you scratching your head if you hook everything up and still get no sound. 
 
Mar 28, 2015 at 1:10 PM Post #332 of 1,279
Has any used there's marantz to output audio to a marantz bluray player? Or to a another amp and dac to be able to use headphones?
I have a amp and dac by "Schiit Audio" that I want to use for my earbuds but there's no optical audio out on my marantz sr5009, so how can I output audio into a optical audio cord way so I can use my Schiit Audio with it?

I recently tested inbetween my Marantz headphone jack and my Schiit and, I got to say Schiit sounded better.
As a sterio and speakers its great,
But I still want to use my earbuds with it when I don't want to blast music


Not sure what it is you want to do? You want to use your Shiit DAC/amp instead of the built-in headphone amp of your Marantz SR5009 AV receiver when using earbuds, I think that much is clear.
 
But what is your music source - is it the blu-ray player? And if so, does your blu-ray have a digital audio out (toslink or coaxial)?
 
Or is it that you want to be able to listen to any source that is connected to your AV receiver with your earbuds? Looking under specifications here, you seem to be right that the SR5009 does not provide any digital out for audio. If your Shiit DAC/amp does not have an analog in (perhaps unlikely since it is a DAC), I don't see any practical/desirable way of doing this with the components you've mentioned.
 
Edit:
I now notice that your AV receiver has two HDMI out ports. HDMI to Toslink audio extractors do exist. I have no experience with anything like that though. My thought is that you could get digital audio out from one of your HDMI out ports via such an extractor, which would then be connected to your Shiit DAC/amp via Toslink. But for the sound to be great, the digital audio signal would have to be unprocessed the whole way through from signal source to input into your Shiit DAC/amp. I don't know if your AV receiver and/or an HDMI audio extractor would resample the digital signal on its way...
 
Mar 28, 2015 at 2:55 PM Post #333 of 1,279
Thank you, so the second hdmi would be the only way,
Right now again, Im using a optical audio cord from my Apple TV to Schiit,
So as long as it's uncompressed the hdmi to optical audio should work?
Thank you!
Not sure what it is you want to do? You want to use your Shiit DAC/amp instead of the built-in headphone amp of your Marantz SR5009 AV receiver when using earbuds, I think that much is clear.

But what is your music source - is it the blu-ray player? And if so, does your blu-ray have a digital audio out (toslink or coaxial)?

Or is it that you want to be able to listen to any source that is connected to your AV receiver with your earbuds? Looking under specifications [COLOR=3366FF]here[/COLOR][COLOR=0000FF],[/COLOR] you seem to be right that the SR5009 does not provide any digital out for audio. If your Shiit DAC/amp does not have an analog in (perhaps unlikely since it is a DAC), I don't see any practical/desirable way of doing this with the components you've mentioned.

Edit:
I now notice that your AV receiver has two HDMI out ports. HDMI to Toslink audio extractors do exist. I have no experience with anything like that though. My thought is that you could get digital audio out from one of your HDMI out ports via such an extractor, which would then be connected to your Shiit DAC/amp via Toslink. But for the sound to be great, the digital audio signal would have to be unprocessed the whole way through from signal source to input into your Shiit DAC/amp. I don't know if your AV receiver and/or an HDMI audio extractor would resample the digital signal on its way...
 
Mar 29, 2015 at 3:31 AM Post #337 of 1,279
Thank you, so the second hdmi would be the only way,
Right now again, Im using a optical audio cord from my Apple TV to Schiit,
So as long as it's uncompressed the hdmi to optical audio should work?
Thank you!


Sorry, but I can't answer that question with any certainty. What I've experienced myself is that the Apple TV resamples every digital audio source to 48kHz sample rate - and the loss of sound quality is noticeable! If you read my first post in this thread, I go as far as deeming the Apple TV useless in hi-fi applications! So if there is a way to go analog from your AV receiver to the AMP of the Shiit, that would probably be preferable to going reprocessed digital. What model of Shiit DAC/Amp is it you have?
 
Mar 29, 2015 at 10:20 PM Post #338 of 1,279
I have the last version of the magni and modi (not the new version) they've been great and I've noticed a big difference in my music,
I did try once to connect the second marantz HDMI to my Xbox one and It worked (after connecting the xboxone hdmi to my tv) but there was no audio and I could t make it full screen or it went black,
So, would my marantz end up working with Schiit?
Sorry, but I can't answer that question with any certainty. What I've experienced myself is that the Apple TV resamples every digital audio source to 48kHz sample rate - and the loss of sound quality is noticeable! If you read my first post in this thread, I go as far as deeming the Apple TV [COLOR=333333]useless in hi-fi applications![/COLOR] So if there is a way to go analog from your AV receiver to the AMP of the Shiit, that would probably be preferable to going reprocessed digital. What model of Shiit DAC/Amp is it you have?
 
Mar 30, 2015 at 10:41 AM Post #339 of 1,279
It is hard to give advice when I don't have the full picture of your setup. But I would try to connect one of your analog out ports of your AV receiver to the Shiit Magni, to use the Magni as your headphone amp. The Modi DAC could possibly be used between your digital music source (computer?) and the AV receiver. That way there is a chance the digital to analog conversion happens only in the Modi, while the receiver will process the signal in a purely analog fashion, and forward the analog signal to the Magni for headphone listening. I don't know your receiver well enough to know whether my assumptions are correct, though.
 
Apr 2, 2015 at 6:28 PM Post #341 of 1,279
I went through this with him a few weeks back and there is no good answer.


All of which has nothing to do with this thread...just saying.
 
Apr 5, 2015 at 12:44 PM Post #342 of 1,279
Received my unit back from Marantz repaircentre yesterday after sending it in for 3 issues:
1. hum when locked to a signal (best heard with low impedance headphones);
2. interference on front usb-port starting when connected iDevice reached 100% charge.
3. connected via front usb-port audio and video are not in sync (when watching movie on iDevice)

After repair, issues 1+2 are completely solved. The syncing problem still exists but that does not bother me too much. I noticed this issue only because of this forum. I for myself use the Marantz solely for music listening and wouldn't have noticed it if I didn't read this topic on Head-Fi. Also there is no syncing problem when connecting through the usb(b) port on the rear of the HD DAC1.

When the unit was at Marantz one of their staff phoned me up to ask about the issues (if I could elaborate), which I think is good practice. In the Netherlands this was their first unit they got in for repair. They said they would contact Marantz Germany and Marantz Japan to ask about the problems and how to solve them. The turnaround time for my unit was only one week. So I'm impressed at the people at Marantz.....good job!

The repair note was very, very brief. All it said was that 6 R were replaced (I think by R they mean resistors but maybe also relais?), a modification was done and also a function test.
I suspect they also replaced the volume pot as I notice more resistance when turning the knob by hand.

I asked my dealer if they could get a more specific report from Marantz about the repair job but this info is not yet available.

Sound quality wise I don't think anything has changed...it still is a superb sounding dac/headphone amp!

Very happy with my HD DAC1 and Marantz as a company did a fine job!


I can confirm that my experience is identical to your account, for which I thank you as this thread prompted my dealer to arrange the 'repair'... I am now very happy and working through my collection of cans to determine the best combinations. So far it is bringing the best or as good as previously heard out of SRH 840, DT770-80, DT150, H6 and HD25-1.

For anyone reading this with residual hum or RF issues, go and get the unit changed or 'repaired', then it really is a keeper. As a DAC and as an amp, it is very surprisingly satisfying, if not down to the last detail of timbre, certainly to hear all the 'music'.

Best

James
 
Apr 5, 2015 at 1:28 PM Post #343 of 1,279
I can confirm that my experience is identical to your account, for which I thank you as this thread prompted my dealer to arrange the 'repair'... I am now very happy and working through my collection of cans to determine the best combinations. So far it is bringing the best or as good as previously heard out of SRH 840, DT770-80, DT150, H6 and HD25-1.

For anyone reading this with residual hum or RF issues, go and get the unit changed or 'repaired', then it really is a keeper. As a DAC and as an amp, it is very surprisingly satisfying, if not down to the last detail of timbre, certainly to hear all the 'music'.

Best

James

 
I went through 3 units without receiving one that was satisfactory in regards to hum.  I ended up giving up on it for now.  Perhaps I'll revisit sometime in the future when I might be able to count on receiving a hum-free unit.
 
Apr 5, 2015 at 2:40 PM Post #344 of 1,279
   
I went through 3 units without receiving one that was satisfactory in regards to hum.  I ended up giving up on it for now.  Perhaps I'll revisit sometime in the future when I might be able to count on receiving a hum-free unit.


I can understand the frustration and the decision to cut losses. I was very nearly there myself. I returned my 2nd unit for repair and the background is now absolutely silent at all gain settings up to full volume even with the most sensitive IEMs.
 
As I use this repaired unit more and with different music & cans, I will update with further impressions.
 
Best
 
James
 
Apr 6, 2015 at 4:43 PM Post #345 of 1,279
can you guys confirm that the hum is only evident when using the unit's headphone amp?
i am considering one of these to feed my Ember.
 

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