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post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 

Hello,

 

So I've got a decent setup at home, Xonar STX + Beyer DT 770. I noticed that I listen to so much music during the day, that it would be wise to get a good setup for that also.

 

So currently I'm playing music from my Samsung Galaxy S3 with some random IEMs. My first question is that if I get decent headphones, do I need get something between my phone and the headphones, or do I have to dump my phone altogether as a music player? If I do, could someone recommend a basic setup of headphones and a music player + anything else I need.

 

I've researched the review list of portable headphones, and found some to my liking, but I still don't understand if I need something else besides the headphones, so they won't go to waste. My budget is somewhere around 100€ for the headphones, but can go over it and like a lot of deep and good bass. So far which caught my eye:

 

Denon DN-HP700

Superlux HD-668 B
Audio-Technica ATH-M50
AKG K81DJ
Audio-Technica ATH-ES7
Koss Pro DJ100

Edited by nurr3 - 8/5/14 at 11:08am
post #2 of 17
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Originally Posted by nurr3 View Post
 

So I've got a decent setup at home, Xonar STX + Beyer DT 770. I noticed that I listen to so much music during the day, that it would be wise to get a good setup for that also.

So currently I'm playing music from my Samsung Galaxy S3 with some random IEMs. My first question is that if I get decent headphones, do I need get something between my phone and the headphones, or do I have to dump my phone altogether as a music player? If I do, could someone recommend a basic setup of headphones and a music player + anything else I need.

I've researched the review list of portable headphones, and found some to my liking, but I still don't understand if I need something else besides the headphones, so they won't go to waste. My budget is somewhere around 100€ for the headphones, but can go over it and like a lot of deep and good bass. So far which caught my eye:

 

Denon DN-HP700

Superlux HD-668 B
Audio-Technica ATH-M50
AKG K81DJ
Audio-Technica ATH-ES7
Koss Pro DJ100

 

Headphones like the audio Technica ATH-ES7 (discontinued) are only 32-Ohms, your Galaxy S3 should be able to easy drive them with out the need of an add-on portable headphone amplifier.

So maybe skip getting an add-on amplifier and put the whole audio budget towards the best low impedance (Ohms) headphones you can get.

(you can always get a portable headphone amplifier in the future, for that extra little boost).

post #3 of 17
Thread Starter 
Ok, thanks that helps a lot. So 32 would be the max then? And getting an external player like would that improve the sound quality or is that what the amp does?
post #4 of 17
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Ok, thanks that helps a lot. So 32 would be the max then? And getting an external player like would that improve the sound quality or is that what the amp does?

 

The impedance (Ohm) rating is a good (roughly) way of of judging how much voltage it takes to drive a headphone.

I'm sure there are some 60-Ohm headphones that the GS3 could decently drive.

Anything from 12-Ohms to 40-Ohms would be a good comfort area for use with the GS3

 

Getting an add-on external headphone amplifier might add a little to audio quality, but it would eat too much into your headphone budget (100 Euros)

 

The Sandisk Sansa Clip + or Clip Zip players ($35-$45, USA) are good low costing portable audio players that you can install Rockbox firmware on to.

My Clip Zip could decently power my 60-ohm Sony MDR-V6s.

If you used a Clip Zip or + to play music, the charge on your GS3 would last longer.

Rockbox add features, like fine tuning the audio and other feature that you would not normally have on a low costing music player.

(I've never used Rockbox myself as I really only need basic features)

I switch from the Clip Zip to a Sony E series for the larger screen.

post #5 of 17
+1

I like Clip Zip and Clip+. Great little mp3 players that rival the sound from the best smart phones smily_headphones1.gif
post #6 of 17
Thread Starter 
Thank you all for the replies! I actually have another question, since I'm thinking of upgrading my 770's. I really like the DT's sound, a little bassy, they isolate very well and the velour pads are so comfortable. So are there any headphones in the Beyer family that are similar to the 770's but are superior in sound, bass and maybe some other factors? Or is there any point in upgrading the DTs?
post #7 of 17
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Thank you all for the replies! I actually have another question, since I'm thinking of upgrading my 770's. I really like the DT's sound, a little bassy, they isolate very well and the velour pads are so comfortable. So are there any headphones in the Beyer family that are similar to the 770's but are superior in sound, bass and maybe some other factors? Or is there any point in upgrading the DTs?

 

It might help to know if the DT770s are the 80-Ohm or 250-Ohm or 600-Ohm version.

The DT880s (Semi-open) do provide a nice balanced sound (a little bright)

Do you care if the future headphones are open or closed?

A cheap way to try an improve on the current STX/DT770 sound is to replace the op-amps in the STX, 2 LME49720s ($4 each, so $4 x 2 = $8) in the two I/V DIP-8 slots on the STX might improve audio quality.

I spent $56 replacing all three of my STX's op-amps, had 6 AD797BR (SOIC) op-amps soldered on the three (DIP-8) adapters, which then fit on my STX.

 

I do prefer the sound of my Audio Technica ATH-A900X headphones, over my DT770s.

post #8 of 17
Thread Starter 

Ok, thank you. And actually I've narrowed my portable headphones to two choices, I think :D

 

AKG 545 and AKG619, I'm just wondering if I'm wasting money with the 545 since I'm only using my phone? Or are they both horrible choices :D I only want isolation, bass and they are small enough to get around the neck for example when not using.

post #9 of 17
I would not think so. I own the K550, and everything I have heard suggests that the K545 is an excellent headphone smily_headphones1.gif
post #10 of 17
Thread Starter 

Ok, also found the Sennheiser Momentum and Focal Spirit ONE, so many to choose from :D

post #11 of 17
Try them all! biggrin.gif

But seriously, if your credit card will handle it, narrow down to two pairs and order both from Amazon or Fulfilled by Amazon (not 3rd party vendors that do their own shipping). RMA is easy on Amazon if you keep the headphones and packaging mint. And return shipping has been $10 to $12 for me (you pay Amazon's shipping cost). Seems worthwhile to have a week or so demo of two headphones to choose from smily_headphones1.gif
post #12 of 17
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Originally Posted by nurr3 View Post

 

So currently I'm playing music from my Samsung Galaxy S3 with some random IEMs. My first question is that if I get decent headphones, do I need get something between my phone and the headphones, or do I have to dump my phone altogether as a music player? If I do, could someone recommend a basic setup of headphones and a music player + anything else I need.

 

That depends - will you be using them mostly at home or while at work? How much space do you have? The Galaxy S3 is my only real music player for now (after I got tired of CD transports dying on me, and I don't like computers unless I'm actually working on one while listening), so here are a few ideas on how you can use yours:

 

 

Reference system

 

Transportable System (my T-mobile S3 just lacks the treble extension of the D-Zero's DAC, and as a bonus, the amp adds a lot of control over the bass frequencies)

 

Portable system (these IEMs are good enough with the phone, considering not having extra bulk on the go)

 

1. The A-Case Superleggera or any 2-layer case will allow for frequent, no-brainer/half attention paid removal without a hard plastic case scratching the phone. 

2. Sync dock must be specified as capable of such, aside from a charging dock; USB OTG adapter hooks up to the port on the dock

3. You can totally get that D-Zero for portable headphones - at $100 and easily works with Android, it's hard to beat. The Fiio E18 though can charge the phone, so that's a nice bonus. Haven't listened to one though so I can't compare the sound.


Edited by ProtegeManiac - 8/7/14 at 8:48am
post #13 of 17
Thread Starter 

Well, I'll be mainly using it outside or when at work, I've got a decent setup at home. I've had IEMs for as long as I remember, but thought I'd try headphones while going outside. People seem to be recommending the Sony MDR-1R, Focal Spirit One and Sennheiser Momentum.

post #14 of 17
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Reference system

Your post in another thread made me notice this. I like your PC cooling system. Water cooled and open case smily_headphones1.gif
post #15 of 17
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Your post in another thread made me notice this. I like your PC cooling system. Water cooled and open case smily_headphones1.gif

 

Nah I was cleaning it at the time and had my system as a transportable. Then I just thought of snapping a cool long exposure to try out my desktop tripod while I booted it up to check if I got everything hooked up right. I'm using Silverstone's PS07 case, and I realized at that point that I removed the filter, closed the door, and supposedly left the filter on top of the case to remind me to clean it but it somehow fell to theother side and I have no idea how long I've been using it without that. Frequent thunderstorms dropped the ambient temp enough and made opening the door for more airflow (and noise) unnecessary last week, which I also realized was because the computer disabled the OC profile, likely after a BIOS update. I was also tweaking the OC when that photo was taken but for some reason MSI's suite wasn't reflecting the changes, and either CPU-Z and Core Temp were, or they're displaying lower clock speeds even while a game is running in a window (but show the right clock speeds when I'm browsing). Weird. It's an H77 mobo but it should overclock to its boost setting (which for some reason it won't do on Total War, but when OC'd, gameplay is a lot smoother all around). 

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