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post #1 of 18
Thread Starter 
High quality wireless audio from iPhone/Spotify to HI-FI
Hi,

New to the forum so hopefully I've posted in the right area? I'm basically looking for a device that I can stream or play downloaded music mainly from Spotify to my home Hi-Fi. I've been looking on the internet and have seen various devices that can do this. I have previously bought the bluetooth transmitters but the audio quality tends to be poor and the sound drops out.

I've noticed there are DAC converters that are standalone from a computer but ideally I would want to play from my iPhone wireless and achieve a good level of sound quality.

I am looking for something that is fairly cheap and I understand that price can compromise when it comes to audio gear but hopefully there is something out there which won't break the bank?

Thanks
post #2 of 18
Airport Express.

And add a dac later when funds allow.
post #3 of 18

I use one of these:-

 

http://www.belkin.com/uk/p/P-G3A2000/

 

and one of these:-

 

http://www.analogueseduction.net/category-705/qed-uplay-puck-bluetooth-receiver-with-apt-x-and-bluecore-5.html

 

At different locations. The Belkin one is cool because you only need to tap a phone on ot and it connects. The QED offers aptX, although I cannot say it makes much difference.

 

If your BT transmitter is poor (build in ones often are) consider one of these:-

 

http://en-uk.sennheiser.com/btd-500-usb

 

or even one of these

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Wireless-Bluetooth-Music-Transmitter-Stereo-Audio-Adapter-TV-MP3-DVD-Walkman-PC-/251365260524

 

From personal experience I know they work fine. The Sennheisser is aptX and particularly good.

 

They all cost about $60 exept the last which is an amazing $20 bargain.

post #4 of 18
Thread Starter 
Thanks both this is really useful and food for thought, just out of interest does airport express only work with iTunes or will it work with Spotify or other apps?
post #5 of 18
It will stream either, or any audio from your idevice.
post #6 of 18
Thread Starter 
Thanks, I've noticed there are airport express newer and older versions does it matter which one? Thanks
post #7 of 18

Have the airport express dropout problems with airplay been resolved? Something you might want to consider. This post in an unrelated forum (January 2014) describes the problem.

 

"Well-documented on web forums is the sad fact that the AirPort Express when used with AirPlay is unstable if outputting through digital out (tosLink) going to a high-end DAC (and then on to your amplifier).  Dropouts are so prevalent as to render the music unlistenable.  This has been the situation with all Expresses and all firmware releases for the past two years.  (Please note that your setup has to be exactly as I described for the dropouts to occur, namely digital out + high-end DAC -- mine is exaSound e20, $2,500.)  I have tried various purported "solutions" to the dropout problem (changing my AirPort Extreme's network security settings, WiFi frequency, firmware, etc.).  None worked."


Edited by toolio - 8/7/14 at 7:17am
post #8 of 18
The only "dropout" problems result from a poor wifi network.
post #9 of 18
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Originally Posted by boatheelmusic View Post

The only "dropout" problems result from a poor wifi network.

I have no experience with this, but I did not buy an airport express because of hundreds of complaints I read while researching. Many people claim it has nothing to do with their wi-fi network. That's the problem. The cause and solutions seem to be evasive.

post #10 of 18

All I can tell you is that with a solid wifi network, I have zero issues with toslink into my PS Audio PWD II.

 

That was not the case before I addressed my network back in 2009.

post #11 of 18

I have this and is great!   it's atpx too...  bonus is I can use to receive OR transmit.  So I can play vinyl and transmit to my kitchen Bluetooth stereo when I want, but normally it's a receiver to my hi-fi.  also cheap :) 

 

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Avantree-Bluetooth-Transmitter-Receiver-Smartphone/dp/B0053R6ESC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1407423367&sr=8-1&keywords=bluetooth+transmitter+receiver

post #12 of 18
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Originally Posted by toolio View Post
 

Have the airport express dropout problems with airplay been resolved? Something you might want to consider. This post in an unrelated forum (January 2014) describes the problem.

 

"Well-documented on web forums is the sad fact that the AirPort Express when used with AirPlay is unstable if outputting through digital out (tosLink) going to a high-end DAC (and then on to your amplifier).  Dropouts are so prevalent as to render the music unlistenable.  This has been the situation with all Expresses and all firmware releases for the past two years.  (Please note that your setup has to be exactly as I described for the dropouts to occur, namely digital out + high-end DAC -- mine is exaSound e20, $2,500.)  I have tried various purported "solutions" to the dropout problem (changing my AirPort Extreme's network security settings, WiFi frequency, firmware, etc.).  None worked."

Some more on this - 

 

The airport express has had three versions, A1084, A1264 and A 1392.

 

The A1084 was the original g band version, sold from 6/04 to 3/08.

 

The A1264 is the N band "plug in the wall" version, and the A1392 is the current  square version that looks like a white Apple TV.

 

The A1264 works great, but the newer A1392 has had compatibility issues for some dacs dropping signal.

 

You can still find the A1264 on ebay for about $50 if this is an issue for you.  Mine are both A1264.

 

On June 27, 2012, Computer Audiophile tested both versions -  "the first generation Airport Express ( the A1264 tested, not the original A1084) is sonically a better performer".

 

Sorry for any confusion!

 

 

Bill


Edited by boatheelmusic - 8/8/14 at 5:22am
post #13 of 18
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the replies, I managed to get hold of a used airport express one of the early ones for a very cheap price. All working but using the 3mm jack to phono until my toslink to mini jack cable arrives. The sound is ok through my amp but could definitely do with improving. I realised I have got a dac which I use to convert my virgin media digital to analog signal which is a really basic one I know. I'm gonna see what the difference is with a view to looking to buy a better Dac. Cambridge audio dac 100 looks very reasonable for the price. I do have an old Aiwa Dat player which doesn't play the tapes very well anymore but heard these have DAC built in to the input monitor? Is it worth setting this up will I hear much difference? Thanks
post #14 of 18
I wouldn't add external dac until the rest of your system is resolving enough to tell the difference, and you're playing at least 16/44 material.

320kbps streaming over an average system doesn't justify a high end dac, IMO.
post #15 of 18
Quote:
Originally Posted by boatheelmusic View Post

Some more on this - 

The airport express has had three versions, A1084, A1264 and A 1392.

The A1084 was the original g band version, sold from 6/04 to 3/08.

The A1264 is the N band "plug in the wall" version, and the A1392 is the current  square version that looks like a white Apple TV.

The A1264 works great, but the newer A1392 has had compatibility issues for some dacs dropping signal.

You can still find the A1264 on ebay for about $50 if this is an issue for you.  Mine are both A1264.

On June 27, 2012, Computer Audiophile tested both versions -  "the first generation Airport Express ( the A1264 tested, not the original A1084) is sonically a better performer".

Sorry for any confusion!


Bill
I also have a PWD2. Does the USB port on the airport express not work with the PWD2 ? Is that why you went with the Tos link?
The AirPort Extreme has a more functional USB. Do you think it would work with the PWD2?
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