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post #3811 of 7354
Hi all

after 3 month I own the NWZ-A15 I'm still with my AKG-K451 on ear headphones...

Too confused about all these comments about external amps, dac, how to connect with a stereo chain etc...

I purchased this player for portable use, what I think it was conceived to, and I use it travelling from home to work and back (by train).

AKG-K451 (32 ohms) are good but not excellent and I'd like to upgrade, but until now I didn't find good suggestions in this forum.
I was quite convinced to purchase Sony MDR-1A but, in the specific forum was asserted they are poor in sound isolating,
so not suited to use in a train.

I know Sennhy Momentum 2.0 over ear are good in sound isolation but when I tried 1.0 with the player I was deceived,
not enough volume...

Actually I know from this forum the output impedance of the Sony is 4 ohm, and, always from this forum the minimum
impedance to be used with should be 32 ohms (4 ohm x 8), is it correct ?
Maybe here the reason I was deceived by Momentum 1.0, wich is 18 ohm ?

Anyway did someone try the 2.0 with the nwz-a15 ?

Some other suggestion for a good pair of over ear really well suited for a portable use without an amp,
for all kind of music but a preference for classical and jazz ?
post #3812 of 7354
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Originally Posted by mdfalco View Post

Some other suggestion for a good pair of over ear really well suited for a portable use without an amp,
for all kind of music but a preference for classical and jazz ?

hd25 Amperior could suit your needs.
post #3813 of 7354
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Originally Posted by mdfalco View Post

Hi all

after 3 month I own the NWZ-A15 I'm still with my AKG-K451 on ear headphones...

Too confused about all these comments about external amps, dac, how to connect with a stereo chain etc...

I purchased this player for portable use, what I think it was conceived to, and I use it travelling from home to work and back (by train).

AKG-K451 (32 ohms) are good but not excellent and I'd like to upgrade, but until now I didn't find good suggestions in this forum.
I was quite convinced to purchase Sony MDR-1A but, in the specific forum was asserted they are poor in sound isolating,
so not suited to use in a train.

I know Sennhy Momentum 2.0 over ear are good in sound isolation but when I tried 1.0 with the player I was deceived,
not enough volume...

Actually I know from this forum the output impedance of the Sony is 4 ohm, and, always from this forum the minimum
impedance to be used with should be 32 ohms (4 ohm x 8), is it correct ?
Maybe here the reason I was deceived by Momentum 1.0, wich is 18 ohm ?

Anyway did someone try the 2.0 with the nwz-a15 ?

Some other suggestion for a good pair of over ear really well suited for a portable use without an amp,
for all kind of music but a preference for classical and jazz ?


MDR-1R they sound good to me, the bass is close to neutral, i listen to classical only

post #3814 of 7354
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Originally Posted by gerelmx1986 View Post
 


MDR-1R they sound good to me, the bass is close to neutral, i listen to classical only


The 1R must be very different from the 1A as the bass on the 1A is anything but neutral, it is actually quite coloured and prominent. I haven't heard the 1R yet.

post #3815 of 7354
I'll look for the Amperior, while mdr-1a and mdr-1r are claimed to have a very poor isolation, so probably not suited for my needs (on train !),
but I will be glad to ear from someone using these pairs on a train/bus and their impressions.

How do you think the Amperior for classical/symphonic ?
post #3816 of 7354
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Originally Posted by mdfalco View Post

I'll look for the Amperior, while mdr-1a and mdr-1r are claimed to have a very poor isolation, so probably not suited for my needs (on train !),
but I will be glad to ear from someone using these pairs on a train/bus and their impressions.

How do you think the Amperior for classical/symphonic ?


I haven't used the emperors but sound like very expensive one, just the name :biggrin:

post #3817 of 7354

I've removed the microSD card after having listened to all the 119GB of songs on it and seems to be using less energy now that is using the onboard memory only

post #3818 of 7354
Quote:
Originally Posted by mdfalco View Post

I'll look for the Amperior, while mdr-1a and mdr-1r are claimed to have a very poor isolation, so probably not suited for my needs (on train !),
but I will be glad to ear from someone using these pairs on a train/bus and their impressions.

How do you think the Amperior for classical/symphonic ?


you need both really easy to drive for the A10, and good isolation. with that in mind I would go with a good isolating not too sensitive IEM(do you dislike IEMs?). only a few headphones are really easy to drive so the chances of you finding the sound you like and enough isolation is statistically small. or if you don't mind the extra weight, maybe go for a wireless one? a few of them may even have noise cancelling to add to the acoustic isolation, and you don't have to worry about power from the A10 on a self powered headphone(the price might go up though).

 

in a train I only ever use etymotic earphones for the great isolation. they undoubtedly suck in the sub bass department, and have too much cable noise to really walk long distances with them. but sitting in a train or a plane, they're my friends(but do read about how uncomfy they can be to some people!!!! they need to go real deep).

post #3819 of 7354
Quote:
Originally Posted by mdfalco View Post

I'll look for the Amperior, while mdr-1a and mdr-1r are claimed to have a very poor isolation, so probably not suited for my needs (on train !),
but I will be glad to ear from someone using these pairs on a train/bus and their impressions.

How do you think the Amperior for classical/symphonic ?


I use the 1A on the bus everyday and they isolate well enough. Now if you like the music quiet that is different, then sound will intrude. I think anything that isolates well without music playing would have to be very big, and or heavy. In the end, only mass (or expensive dense materials) will block out sound waves right? I sit on noisy buses and yes if I'm sitting at the back and the engine revs I'll hear it unless I have the music fairly loud, but that is to be expected after all. I even liked the on-ear V-moda XS with the bus so I guess it depends on what you expect. If you want quiet nuanced passages of music to be fine on the bus at moderate to quiet listening levels, well, I would say find some pretty heavy headphones, or at least some that use quite dense materials for the cups and pads. There is also active noise cancellation, but I know nothing about that. Good luck finding something that works for you, and please report back here so we know what you found that works.

post #3820 of 7354
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Originally Posted by castleofargh View Post
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mdfalco View Post

I'll look for the Amperior, while mdr-1a and mdr-1r are claimed to have a very poor isolation, so probably not suited for my needs (on train !),
but I will be glad to ear from someone using these pairs on a train/bus and their impressions.

How do you think the Amperior for classical/symphonic ?


you need both really easy to drive for the A10, and good isolation. with that in mind I would go with a good isolating not too sensitive IEM(do you dislike IEMs?). only a few headphones are really easy to drive so the chances of you finding the sound you like and enough isolation is statistically small. or if you don't mind the extra weight, maybe go for a wireless one? a few of them may even have noise cancelling to add to the acoustic isolation, and you don't have to worry about power from the A10 on a self powered headphone(the price might go up though).

 

in a train I only ever use etymotic earphones for the great isolation. they undoubtedly suck in the sub bass department, and have too much cable noise to really walk long distances with them. but sitting in a train or a plane, they're my friends(but do read about how uncomfy they can be to some people!!!! they need to go real deep).


I remember when i had my old XBA-1, those isolated quite well to be frank, perhaps due to the lack of bass-port like the XBA-H3 for it's DD

post #3821 of 7354
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Originally Posted by gerelmx1986 View Post
 

I've removed the microSD card after having listened to all the 119GB of songs on it and seems to be using less energy now that is using the onboard memory only


Wondering if the MicroSD consumes more power, or is the fact of having two chips ON? and even the slot door doesn't seem to sit completely well even after there is no card in it


Edited by gerelmx1986 - 3/23/15 at 12:29pm
post #3822 of 7354

I am wondering how the A15 handles digital out to another amp with regard to battery life.

 

What are you all getting while its playing flac via the wmport please?

 

thanks in advance.

post #3823 of 7354
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Originally Posted by gerelmx1986 View Post
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gerelmx1986 View Post
 

I've removed the microSD card after having listened to all the 119GB of songs on it and seems to be using less energy now that is using the onboard memory only


Wondering if the MicroSD consumes more power, or is the fact of having two chips ON? and even the slot door doesn't seem to sit completely well even after there is no card in it

you're afraid you'll get only 30h when you could maybe get 30h and 10mn? :D

 

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Originally Posted by mannp View Post
 

I am wondering how the A15 handles digital out to another amp with regard to battery life.

 

What are you all getting while its playing flac via the wmport please?

 

thanks in advance.


digital out or analog line out? just for clarification for others.

I didn't measure myself because it's much more than my DAC/amp can do anyway so it's irrelevant for my use. and I suspect any portable stuff with a DAC will die before the sony.

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by gerelmx1986 View Post
 

I remember when i had my old XBA-1, those isolated quite well to be frank, perhaps due to the lack of bass-port like the XBA-H3 for it's DD

the xba-1 isolates ok, but it's audibly behind in isolation compared to some etymotic stuff, even some 40$ etykid with triflange tips or even with foam ones. shure and westone can do pretty well too with the right tips. and at least they're comfy for most people.

I would go for the small shape of the xba-1 but the sound of the xba-c10. and with an ok cable maybe? until then I stick with cheap ety stuff+EQ.

post #3824 of 7354
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Originally Posted by mdfalco View Post

I'll look for the Amperior, while mdr-1a and mdr-1r are claimed to have a very poor isolation, so probably not suited for my needs (on train !),
but I will be glad to ear from someone using these pairs on a train/bus and their impressions.

How do you think the Amperior for classical/symphonic ?

Stick with standard classic HD25. You won't need remote, will save money and have better balanced less bassy sound. May be 70ohms but highly efficient. Will last a lifetime. Will never part with mine. Do improve with amping though, more than amperior.
post #3825 of 7354
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Originally Posted by castleofargh View Post
 

you're afraid you'll get only 30h when you could maybe get 30h and 10mn? :D

 

the xba-1 isolates ok, but it's audibly behind in isolation compared to some etymotic stuff, even some 40$ etykid with triflange tips or even with foam ones. shure and westone can do pretty well too with the right tips. and at least they're comfy for most people.

I would go for the small shape of the xba-1 but the sound of the xba-c10. and with an ok cable maybe? until then I stick with cheap ety stuff+EQ.

haha maybe i get around 44h but seems strange the first bar hasn't dropped as quickly as with he micro SD inserted (i have batt care on)

 

i NEVER TRIED THE xba-c10 but as for the cable of xba-1 was not so nice, no strain relief they died when the cable broke in the part where it meets the bud, mine isolated good with complys 

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