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please, help me pick a pair of headphones!

post #1 of 30
Thread Starter 
My last pair of headphones are broken so its time to pick out a new pair. I will start by saying that im not an audiofile, but i can hear the diferance between a 320kbps mp3 and a flac file even on 15$ walmart headphones. I also crave some balance. If there isnt enough bass or enough treble it can really bother me so i would like headphones that respond well to an eq, but are not completely neutral.

Budget: up to $300 (a little more if its really worth it.)

Requirements:
-Closed or semi-closed
-Over the ears (circumural)
-Good soundscape
-comfortable (for very long sessions)
-durable
-somewhat portable (not too ugly. Is a plus if i can wear around neck, but not req.)
-isolation- medium/high (i like to be in my own little world, dont want to hear others but i dont care if they hear me) also i dont want to pay extra for anc or anything, just need decent pnc.

Will be used for:
-Music (all types, mostly rock/metal)
-TV & movies
-FPS and rpg style computer games
-sometimes ill have a game and music on at same time.

Will be used with:
-Samsung galaxy s4
-Custom computer
-Sony av reciever
-mp3 files (mostly 320kbps)
-flac

Desired Sonic signatures:
Highs: Should be clear and not tinny.
Mids: most important. I want clear mids that would allow me to pick out all the parts if i want.
Bass: should be tight and get loud without getting muddy. Should be able to accurately deal with things like dual bass drums pounding rapidly (like in thrash metal). Should respond well to an eq.
Loudness: should get very loud without ruining sq
Soundscape: has decent positioning for fps games (sound quality is more important though)

This isn't a requirement, but i would prefer a detachable wire.
I am open to getting an amp if it would make them sound better.
post #2 of 30

Hi,

 

You should read about SoundMagic HP100

http://noblehifi.blogspot.com.ar/2012/10/soundmagic-hp100-review.html

 

Best Luck!

post #3 of 30
post #4 of 30
Thread Starter 

So i ordered a pair of the soundmagic HP150 and tried them out. To me they sounded like there was almost no bass at all. i tried them on multiple sources and they all did the same thing. I could hear what should be bass, but it was extremely muted, almost like it had negative EQ on it... it doesn't sound deep and powerful, it sounds weak and almost like they filled the bass drum with Owing-Corning fiberglass insulation... to me. when i tried bass boosting it, on 3 different sources (PC, Phone, AV receiver) the headphones tuned into a tin can getting crushed and clipping like crazy. I plan on giving them another try before i send them back to amazon, but I'm 99% sure these aren't the headphones for me. However, other than the bass these sounded pretty good, they make subtle things that I've never noticed before just pop out.

 

So before i buy some more headphones that I'm just going to send back I'm looking for a place to go try out some of them. 

 

As for those suggested by yotamdo, those all look like they have better bass from the reviews about them. I definitely want to check out V-MODA. 

 

Any other recommendations on phones with bass that has more power than the HP100/HP150 would be welcomed.

post #5 of 30
The HP150 has a bass response that is only very slightly boosted above neutral. It will play the bass levels in relation to other frequencies very closely to the the way it was mixed in the studio and intended to sound. Your experience definitely sounds like you want a headphone with a lot of enhanced bass, where the bass is heavily emphasized over other frequencies from how it was recorded. Keep in mind that with headphones with bass emphasis, the mids may be recessed.

You could try leaving the HP150s playing moderately loud (but no bass EQ or distortion) for a day or so to break them in. But that's not going to increase the bass emphasis. Might improve overall SQ a bit.

If I remember correctly, the S4 is similar to my Note 2 in that the built in headphone amp is not very powerful. You'll probably want a more sensitive can than the HP150s, or you might want a headphone amp to use with it.

Some receivers don't pair well with 32 ohm headphones because the receiver's output impedance isn't low enough. Since receiver manufacturers don't provide information about headphone output, hard to know whether that will be a problem with your receiver.

The V-Moda M100 might be a good choice for you because they have more heavily emphasized bass. They are also more sensitive and should play louder out of your S4.
post #6 of 30
Thread Starter 
I don't think that i agree that the 150s respond as intended. There is no way that disturbed intended for the bass to produce less force than the symbol... But you nevwr know.

I was also thinking that the m100's sounded like a better fit for me. But the LP2 are also interesting, and 100$ less... I would love to hear them both to see if i want to spend the extra 100 or not. I dont have a problem spending the money, but i am concerned that i might flat out like the lp2 better than the m100 because the reviews i read say the lp2 is bassier... But idk
post #7 of 30
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Originally Posted by nukacola View Post

I don't think that i agree that the 150s respond as intended. There is no way that disturbed intended for the bass to produce less force than the symbol... But you nevwr know.

I was also thinking that the m100's sounded like a better fit for me. But the LP2 are also interesting, and 100$ less... I would love to hear them both to see if i want to spend the extra 100 or not. I dont have a problem spending the money, but i am concerned that i might flat out like the lp2 better than the m100 because the reviews i read say the lp2 is bassier... But idk

Well, the HP150s have (maybe) a very slight bit more bass emphasis than the HP100s, and the HP100s have been listened to by many experienced Head-Fiers and have even been measured by an independent reviewer. We know how they perform. You might not be used to a more neutral sound. Nothing wrong with wanting more bass smily_headphones1.gif

I just listened to this Disturbed video on YouTube, and the opening drum sequence sounds about right for bass in relation to the rest of the recording with the HP150s. The recording seems weighted toward presenting the lead guitar, which is often the case with a lot of rock. Same with this song. Lead guitar is featured. Sounds great to me with HP150 because the fantastic mids on the HP150 really emphasize the guitar well. Good band (I had not heard them before).

Cymbals may calm down a touch through break in with the HP150s.
post #8 of 30
Thread Starter 
I definitly agree that the guitar comes through great on these. But for my taste the bass is just missing. And the first song i tried on them was down with the sickness, and the intro sounded like it should, but right after that the bass just goes completly flat like they stuffed the drum with insulation right after the intro lol.
post #9 of 30

I've found that burn-in makes a huge difference.  I just bought some cheap Sennheiser HD 229s, and out of the package they were horrible.  The bass was literally nonexistent.  Kick drums sounded weak and strained.  Now, only 2 days later, the bass is running deep.  My advice is keep playing them.

post #10 of 30
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Filter500 View Post
 

I've found that burn-in makes a huge difference.  I just bought some cheap Sennheiser HD 229s, and out of the package they were horrible.  The bass was literally nonexistent.  Kick drums sounded weak and strained.  Now, only 2 days later, the bass is running deep.  My advice is keep playing them.

 

Definitely worth a try, ill throw them on a loop for a few days and try again just to make sure before i send them back. i have a month to return them.

post #11 of 30
That's not the headphones. That's the mix. The drums are not featured in that song. And based on what I can tell from listening to a few others, probably true for much of their music. A lot of rock is just mixed that way.

Here is Led Zeppelin's live performance of Moby Dick. Drum solo starts about 2 minutes in. Sounds about right with the HP150s for the recording for a fairly neutral response.

Now, like I said before, the S4's headphone amp is likely similar to the Note 2. Not going to get loud bass out of the phone with the HP150s.
post #12 of 30
Quote:
Originally Posted by nukacola View Post
 

So i ordered a pair of the soundmagic HP150 and tried them out. To me they sounded like there was almost no bass at all. i tried them on multiple sources and they all did the same thing. I could hear what should be bass, but it was extremely muted, almost like it had negative EQ on it... it doesn't sound deep and powerful, it sounds weak and almost like they filled the bass drum with Owing-Corning fiberglass insulation... to me. when i tried bass boosting it, on 3 different sources (PC, Phone, AV receiver) the headphones tuned into a tin can getting crushed and clipping like crazy. I plan on giving them another try before i send them back to amazon, but I'm 99% sure these aren't the headphones for me. However, other than the bass these sounded pretty good, they make subtle things that I've never noticed before just pop out.

 

So before i buy some more headphones that I'm just going to send back I'm looking for a place to go try out some of them. 

 

As for those suggested by yotamdo, those all look like they have better bass from the reviews about them. I definitely want to check out V-MODA. 

 

Any other recommendations on phones with bass that has more power than the HP100/HP150 would be welcomed.

Are you turning the preamp low enough on the eq?

 

Theres also the yamaha pro 500 (the price has dropped from $400 to $250 in the US)

http://www.head-fi.org/t/628488/yamaha-pro-headphones

http://www.head-fi.org/t/653626/yamaha-hph-pro-500-review

http://www.head-fi.org/products/yamaha-pro-500

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2413643,00.asp


Edited by zunehdrocks - 7/31/14 at 11:32am
post #13 of 30
Heck. If you want the Yamaha Pro 500s, I have a mint pair I'll trade you straight out for the HP150s--assuming you didn't blow up the HP150s trying to create a lot of bass with them (lol).
post #14 of 30
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cel4145 View Post

Heck. If you want the Yamaha Pro 500s, I have a mint pair I'll trade you straight out for the HP150s--assuming you didn't blow up the HP150s trying to create a lot of bass with them (lol).

Why would you want 2 pairs of hp150's? 

 

as for the yamaha pro 500; from the things i read about it, it sounds like it could be good, but i dont really like the design.

How do they compare to the m100? its so hard to tell these things without actually listening to them...

post #15 of 30
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Originally Posted by nukacola View Post

Why would you want 2 pairs of hp150's? 

Because I tried the Yamahas and decided they were not for me. They are still mint, so I'm gifting them to a family member who probably might like the HP150 better, assuming I had a mint pair of them instead. Or I could leave the 2nd pair at my office. A lot of us have more than one set of headphones for that reason wink.gif
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