Yes, I'm here. I've got some Beats Studio 2 in-house. The noise canceling seems better than the old Studio but I find it not as good as Bose.
It's also got some issues that I'll go into in the review that make me think they don't quite have their poop in a group on the noise canceling front.
If there is patent infringement, it's likely a very complex argument on the details of the circuit and algorithm design.
If the case does go to trial, we'll probably learn a lot about Bose headphones...though I suppose one could just go read all the patents.
OMGosh!
The King has entered the building!
RESPECT!
*lets get my fanboying outta the way here*
Thanks man - for everything you do - much appreciated
Yeah, I totally agree that beats ANC is nowhere near Bose's - by a large degree.
But surely Bose keep their algorithm's under wraps and out of sight and a legal battle would be counter productive if they were brought out into the open for other brands to tweak a little here and there to circumvent Bose's patent protection?
I first heard Bose's ANC when in my local Apple store, they had a pair of QuietComfort 15's out on display to try, so I was intrigued to check them out after watching your comparative review video. They were turned on without any music playing through them, just the ANC function, which you will also know functions without plugging in the audio cable so can be used wireless if you just want silence no music, and as soon as I put them on I was blown away and as you said as closing remark on your video - they truly are "unbelievable" - like the world went into mute. I stood there like an idiot for about 10mins just putting them on and off amazed by how the world (or white noise of the store) just went silent like nothing I'd experienced before from a headphone, needless to say I bought a pair, probably to the relief of Apple store staff who probably thought I was going to do a runner out of the store with the QC15's at any minute due to how long I was checking them
As for the beats Studio 2.0's ANC - I think that the natural seal of the earcups (passive noise isolation?) add to a generally lack lustre ANC, and they are no way near Bose's level of performance, but what other headphone does? But all in all the Studios do offer some ANC which is ok, and I appreciate their new and improved sound signature for sure
But at the risk of going off topic here - Tyll, what's your honest opinion of beats new range if headphones such as the Studio 2.0's, the Studio wireless, beats mixr's, solo2's?
IMO, these cans rock and I just don't understand the schiit they receive - especially from v-moda 100 lovers and similar as that "fun" sound signature is well within the beats sound ball park, though I readily admit that beats are a tad overpriced, but they are the only headphone brand also regarded as a lifestyle brand.
Beats are what got me into this hobby and I still appreciate their sound signature but they continue to be the whipping boy here and a lot of other places, which I personally disagree with strongly and when getting into heated debate over, always get my ass kicked.
Believe me when I say, there are a lot more folks like me only keeping their mouths shut in fear of ridicule, which is a shame as this is a headphone and audio enthusiasts site where surely all brands should be allowed their place without prejudice?
I keep pimping this video but even that gets shot down
(you probably know "part time audiophile" guy - he's in the industry too as a audiophile journalist and also writes for http://audio360.org)
[VIDEO]http://youtu.be/FMcyEz13t1Q[/VIDEO]
I don't oppose others opinions, but some of the beats criticism here and other places is so disproportionate it's crazy making.
Believe me when I say that I'm not trying to ambush you into a beats Vs the world scenario - just people who command the kind of respect that you do make people take note far more than the likes of I could ever do.
Many thanks for making reply to this Beats Vs Bose thread and I look forward to any further comments on it and any you make on the other points I raise.
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Thank you sir