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Originally Posted by The coffini View Post
 

Hi, I´m new to this forums. Though have been reading a lot - and have been reading a lot especially in the 300+ pages of this thread... but could not find the answer - sorry if this has been answered before. So here´s my question:

 

Does the MDR-Z7 work properly with the Walkman ZX1? In other words: Is the amp in the ZX1 strong enough to drive the Z7 headphones for full sound quality or do I need an additional HP amp, eg the Sony PHA-3?

 

Thx a lot!

To answer your question to a degree as original reply to your question took it on a tangent is with a ZX1 from my experience with my Sony MDR-7520's there was not enough to drive them with authority for me leaving a weak anemic presentation and thought they would need amping but then tried the EQ trick where you stop the EQ setting in apps which gives the player more volume and headroom and could drive my 7520's no problem with some volume steps to spare.  It does change the SQ of the player doing this but for me it actually complimented my 7520's but at the same time made my JH16 ciems not sound to pleasant in this mode.  Grant you I do not have the Z7 but could do the job for you without having to use an external amp.  I rarely use my 7520's direct with the ZX1 but is nice to know the disengagement of the EQ setting in running apps lifts the DB's enough to use these cans with a bit of power and drive giving back their dynamics.  

 

Only thing might be without comparing the specs as I am writing this on the go is the Z7 does have a bigger 70mm driver is it to I think it is 50mm unit in my 7520 so could take more to drive this in an efficient manner. 

 

Hope it helps as this maybe, can only try it and see or shall I say hear how it goes...

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Originally Posted by The coffini View Post
 

Hi, I´m new to this forums. Though have been reading a lot - and have been reading a lot especially in the 300+ pages of this thread... but could not find the answer - sorry if this has been answered before. So here´s my question:

 

Does the MDR-Z7 work properly with the Walkman ZX1? In other words: Is the amp in the ZX1 strong enough to drive the Z7 headphones for full sound quality or do I need an additional HP amp, eg the Sony PHA-3?

 

Thx a lot!

 

Yes, it is  okay for your to use the ZX1 to drive the Z7.  However, you will shortly change your headphones a great deal given that the ZX1's internal amp is far from being good at driving the Z7.

 
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Originally Posted by Kerouac View Post
 

Well, of course everybody has his own opinion and preference on this :rolleyes:

 

I think the Z7 out of my Pono player in balanced mode sounds better than when I connect it to my home rig with tube amplifier. Besides that I can walk around the house (3 floors) with it when I'm cleaning or I can listen to music with great sq when doing the dishes or so, without disturbing my family (kids) with my music..outside the house I only/always use iems.

 

Concerning the costs: 2 of my 3 iems costed more than my Z7 :blink:

I second the Pono in balanced mode at driving the Z7 as well.  From my experience the Pono is nothing special in singled end but it does provide a really good performance via its balanced headphone output.  The Z7 just happen to work right out of the box with the Pono's balanced out so it is a fine choice.  I was never happy with the Z7 stock and had to upgraded my pair with the DIY silver dragon cable.  The Z7 is much better now.  FYI, the PHA-3 still best the Pono's balanced output but the difference are not night & day.  My best experience with the Z7 is out of a Headamp GS-X MKII so the Z7 does really scale well.

 

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Originally Posted by Wnuwk Siphon View Post


Of course the Z7 would benefit from proper (balanced) amping, but you'd be suprised how good it sounds straight from the ZX1. I certainly was.

I personally prefer a notch or two of extra ClearBass, maybe three. Or four. I prefer it that way possibly to compensate for the lack of power for those huge drivers, or maybe because I'm a closet (clear)bass head. Either way, it is definitely enjoyable.

But as always YMMV and if possible, try before you buy. smily_headphones1.gif

 

Bass head for sure. :wink_face:

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Originally Posted by FortisFlyer75 View Post
 

To answer your question to a degree as original reply to your question took it on a tangent is with a ZX1 from my experience with my Sony MDR-7520's there was not enough to drive them with authority for me leaving a weak anemic presentation and thought they would need amping but then tried the EQ trick where you stop the EQ setting in apps which gives the player more volume and headroom and could drive my 7520's no problem with some volume steps to spare.  It does change the SQ of the player doing this but for me it actually complimented my 7520's but at the same time made my JH16 ciems not sound to pleasant in this mode.  Grant you I do not have the Z7 but could do the job for you without having to use an external amp.  I rarely use my 7520's direct with the ZX1 but is nice to know the disengagement of the EQ setting in running apps lifts the DB's enough to use these cans with a bit of power and drive giving back their dynamics.  

 

Only thing might be without comparing the specs as I am writing this on the go is the Z7 does have a bigger 70mm driver is it to I think it is 50mm unit in my 7520 so could take more to drive this in an efficient manner. 

 

Hope it helps as this maybe, can only try it and see or shall I say hear how it goes...

 

Yes the Z7 should be more difficult to drive than your 7520.  Surprisingly I do prefer my Black Dragon upgraded Sony MDR-SA5000 over the silver dragon upgraded Sony MDR-Z7 by a hair.  To be quite frank, the recabled CD3000 still head & shoulder above both phones.

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For the price, the Pono seems like a great pairing for the Z7.  I was especially impressed with Tyll's review of the Pono.  I respect his opinion and he is someone who has listened to a lot of equipment and for him to say things like the quote below make me think that pairing a Z7 with a Pono player in balance mode is not selling the headphones short of their potential.

 

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In terms of its sound, I would say that for me it's without equal in the realm of hand held portable players in terms of pleasurable listening. In my judgement the Pono Player has absolutely fulfilled the Pono brand promise of being a righteous vessel for deep, and dare I say soul satisfying, experience with your music. 

 

I'm also quite sympathetic with those who use their portable players at home with their Z7.  Many of us are not retired and find it difficult to spend quality headphone time.  So the compromise is to listen at home while taking care of business.  For this a portable setup has not equal.  I currently strap on an armband pouch with my E12/d-zeroMK2/android setup to allow me to move around without any difficulty.  I'll even sport my Moto360 watch to allow me to control my music from my wrist without missing a beat.

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Originally Posted by purk View Post
 

 

The Z7 is much better now.  FYI, the PHA-3 still best the Pono's balanced output but the difference are not night & day.  My best experience with the Z7 is out of a Headamp GS-X MKII so the Z7 does really scale well.

 

 

 

Yes, the PHA 3 and Z7 can be simply sublime, but driving the Z7s from my NAD M3 takes them to that next level.

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Originally Posted by Wnuwk Siphon View Post

Of course the Z7 would benefit from proper (balanced) amping, but you'd be suprised how good it sounds straight from the ZX1. I certainly was.

I personally prefer a notch or two of extra ClearBass, maybe three. Or four. I prefer it that way possibly to compensate for the lack of power for those huge drivers, or maybe because I'm a closet (clear)bass head. Either way, it is definitely enjoyable.

But as always YMMV and if possible, try before you buy. smily_headphones1.gif

I concur completely. I was getting the Z7 first, then planning to get the PHA3 later. The ZX1 does better than I expected. Especially with the Kimber cables.
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The MDR-Z7s were designed for 70's music, I'm almost convinced :)

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Originally Posted by yakkosmurf View Post

I concur completely. I was getting the Z7 first, then planning to get the PHA3 later. The ZX1 does better than I expected. Especially with the Kimber cables.

I'm thoroughly enjoying my Sony MDR Z7 with my ZX2 player. I find that it is enough to drive the headphones although it does sound slightly better with my Chord Hugo. But the difference is not significant enough for me to use the Hugo all the time.
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