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Most headphone balanced cables do not have the shield ground connected and you certainly do not want both ends of the cable shield connected to ground.

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Most headphone balanced cables do not have the shield ground connected and you certainly do not want both ends of the cable shield connected to ground.

 

Why not?

 

Anyway, the strange thing is why would Sony use their own non standard connectors, instead of using what has become an industry standard, 4 pin XLR. Someone said that "Balanced cabling is supposed to have a ground connection". That sounds a bit like you are supposed to wear one red sock and one green one when you listen to headphones. It makes about as much sense.

 

 

http://download.sony-asia.com/consumer/IM/4538073311.pdf

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I just came back from my local Sony shop. I listened to those headphones through a Sony HAP-Z1ES Music player and a Sony TA-A1ES amp. I played around with the files in the Music player and came across Hotel C in hi res. I have to say it was very convincing indeed. The cans are very well made and comfortable and seem capable of a very refined sound. Of course those components together with those cans make for a pretty expensive headfi system, but in this case I think you pretty much get what you pay for.

 

The way they implement their balanced cables is however very silly. I know the Japanese work so hard that they suffer from sleep deprivation, but why was everyone with a brain asleep when they decided on this?:

 

 

http://download.sony-asia.com/consumer/IM/4538073311.pdf

 

Balanced 4 pin XLR is now the industry standard. I wonder why Sony does not use it...

 

http://www.audeze.com/products/accessories/balanced-cable-4-pin

 

Its for their PHA-3 DAC/amp.  I agree with you on 4 pin XLR, but I'm sure that would effect the profile of the portable, forcing a taller design.

 

I just wish they would add 4 pin XLR to their Kimber Kable variety of aftermarket cables...


Edited by ButtUglyJeff - 12/19/14 at 2:40am
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Originally Posted by john57 View Post
 

Most headphone balanced cables do not have the shield ground connected and you certainly do not want both ends of the cable shield connected to ground.

 

That because you increase the chances of a ground loop. Like the shield of RCA interconnects should only be connected at one end. For portable applications like the PHA-3 it makes even less sense to use a dual three pole balanced cable since the ground reference is floating.

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Originally Posted by john57 View Post
 

Most headphone balanced cables do not have the shield ground connected and you certainly do not want both ends of the cable shield connected to ground.

 

That because you increase the chances of a ground loop. Like the shield of RCA interconnects should only be connected at one end. For portable applications like the PHA-3 it makes even less sense to use a dual three pole balanced cable since the ground reference is floating.


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Hey guys do you know if sony store online ships to an united states P.O. Box? if not can you tell me a list of good online stores that ship to a p.o. box?

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I thought the Z7 walked all over my TH900 as far as balance goes..not sure what the 600 does though, never heard them.

 

TH900 is certainly a LOT brighter than Z7.  

 

How does the Sony TA-A1es compared to PHA-3?  I tried connecting my HAp-Z1es to PHA-3 via analog and the sound was distorted (overload).  Sad that Sony ever tested that combo. 


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TH900 is certainly a LOT brighter than Z7.  

 

How does the Sony TA-A1es compared to PHA-3?  I tried connecting my HAp-Z1es to PHA-3 via analog and the sound was distorted (overload).  Sad that Sony ever tested that combo. 

 

I don't know about the PHA-3, but the TA-A1ES is excellent. Strange that it does not have a balanced headphone output though. Seems like Sony is a bit scatter brained.

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I thought the Z7 walked all over my TH900 as far as balance goes..not sure what the 600 does though, never heard them.


Quite hard to compare the Z7 which is a laidback phone similar to the HD650, to the much forward brighter phone of the TH900

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It's actually easy to compare the two. They just don't sound the same after the comparison :D Don't find the Sony like the 650, either.

 

I thought Sony did a fine job with the Z7.  

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I'm really enjoying them. Paired with Chord Hugo they have bags of detail and great sense of space. Vocals are really nicely presented.
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