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post #1 of 12
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Hello,

 

I am new to the forum and the whole headphone business, but I have been reading a lot on this forum and overall on head-fi. I am looking to buy my first headphones in $300 price range (more like up to $300, but will pay a bit more if needed). There are tons of options and information, so I really need advice from experienced users of headphones.

 

A bit about my tastes and preferences. I really into eletronic music and often listen music from digitially imported website or similar, but I can also listen to classical music or rap. Really depends on the mood, but I can say that most of time eletronic music is my choice. I enjoy a good bass, but I don't want to blow my head off.

 

I really like Sennheiser HD 598 and Momentum, but not sure if they will do the job if I listen to electronic music most of the time. I like Sennheiser brand in general, but open to other brands. Not really fan of sony, but willing to try. I don't need in-ear (I have one, that are good enough for general use), I am looking for a good over-head headphones (really inclined to over-ear ones).

 

I am planning to use them mostly at home and at work (I am a software engineer and I like to code while listening to music).

 

If you need more information, please let me know.

 

Kind regards,

post #2 of 12

Beyerdynamic DT 770 - 80 Ohms

post #3 of 12
You mentioned the HD598s. Are open headphone OK? They won't isolate you from your environment and others may be able to hear what you are listening to if you are working in a cubicle. But open headphones will generally have the best soundstage, which is a plus smily_headphones1.gif
post #4 of 12
I love my Momentums for electronic! I love them for everything! They're just generally a joy to listen to IMO. Great cans! If you were interested In open headphones, and listen to electronic and some rap, I would look into maybe the He400! They can be clear but also have a dark-ish sound with very nice bass and their planar mids are so sweet with everything and the treble is really smooth for classical! Hard to go wrong with them!(:
post #5 of 12
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Originally Posted by cel4145 View Post

You mentioned the HD598s. Are open headphone OK? They won't isolate you from your environment and others may be able to hear what you are listening to if you are working in a cubicle. But open headphones will generally have the best soundstage, which is a plus smily_headphones1.gif

 

I have read a lot about HD598, since I really felt in love with them, but people say that they have "neutral" bass, which assume the headphones don't emphasize bass. I don't mind open headphones, I was going to buy HD598, but decided to ask opinion of people.

 

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I love my Momentums for electronic! I love them for everything! They're just generally a joy to listen to IMO. Great cans! If you were interested In open headphones, and listen to electronic and some rap, I would look into maybe the He400! They can be clear but also have a dark-ish sound with very nice bass and their planar mids are so sweet with everything and the treble is really smooth for classical! Hard to go wrong with them!(:

 

The only problem I have with Momentums, their controls don't work with anything apart from Apple products. It is like pay good chunk of money for something you know want work with tech you use. I know with headphones sounds is more important, but it still bugs me. HE400 are super big and some people complain that they don't sit too well on their head and can slip from time to time. I would like to actually try them if I find them nearby.

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Originally Posted by TwelveTrains View Post
 

Beyerdynamic DT 770 - 80 Ohms

 

They look fantastic and have great reviews. I might actually go for them.

 

I am really inclined to go for DT77--80 ohms. Does anybody else has more suggestions, please?

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Originally Posted by rahanar View Post

I have read a lot about HD598, since I really felt in love with them, but people say that they have "neutral" bass, which assume the headphones don't emphasize bass. I don't mind open headphones, I was going to buy HD598, but decided to ask opinion of people.


The only problem I have with Momentums, their controls don't work with anything apart from Apple products. It is like pay good chunk of money for something you know want work with tech you use. I know with headphones sounds is more important, but it still bugs me. HE400 are super big and some people complain that they don't sit too well on their head and can slip from time to time. I would like to actually try them if I find them nearby.

They look fantastic and have great reviews. I might actually go for them.

I am really inclined to go for DT77--80 ohms. Does anybody else has more suggestions, please?

Uh.. alright. I guess I see your prospective of the momentums. The dt770s are cool, they have great bass, and a bright treble and sound signature. Though the mids on them aren't very acceptable to me. For headphones that are a bit darker than the 770s with bodied, present mids, smoothed treble, and great bass with awesome capabilities, there are the M-audio Q40. You can snag a refurbished pair for like $50. That's an immense steal! A killer deal and a $30 Beyer pad upgrade just makes them perfect. But whatever you pick, I wish you luck!

Sean
post #7 of 12

PSB M4U1 might be worth considering.

post #8 of 12

Mainly an electronic listener here. Big house/techno head with some DnB and trance tossed in the mix. Also a DI listener. I dislike the HD598 for electronic music. I find them boring and unengaging. They're also open, so not sure if that's a concern for you in the office.

 

The DT770 has a rather apparent emphasis on bass with big impact and maybe lacking a bit in the detail department. They're is also a slight emphasis in the highs, leaving the mids a touch recessed. These are decent for electronic I find, but I much prefer a can with more detailed/textured/exciting mids. For the price though it's not a bad pickup, plus they seal relatively well for an office environment.

 

For purely an electronic can around this price range, the HE400 (open) would probably be the way to go. The bass is very detailed and extended, the mids are wonderful, the treble is detailed although can be a bit sizzle-y at times. These are not neutral cans and have a more "fun" sound signature. I do not prefer these with hip hop though as voices can sometimes have a weird presentation. It's not necessarily bad, I just prefer other cans for hip hop.

 

For a can that can handle both hip hop and electronic I would suggest either the AKG Q701 (open) or the Mr. Speakers Mad Dog (closed). The AKG is very detailed for it's price and also has a very "real" or natural presentation. The sound stage is incredible as well which makes for a great electronic can. The bass doesn't dig as low as the planars, nor do I find the bass to be as detailed, but it's still very enjoyable. They have awesome mids and I think it's where this can really shines. These are a big closer to neutral but I think they're a touch on the warm side.

 

The Mad Dog is a closed planar with great, lush, silky smooth mids, very clean and detailed bass which can sometimes lack impact, and laid back highs which are still detailed but never fatiguing. The Mad Dog also makes for a great hip hop can. These have a relatively dark presentation but are also fairly neutral.

 

All of these headphones will definitely benefit from a good, powerful amp and a dac. If you don't have one already, you might want to price that into your budget. When you start moving into this price range of headphones, most of them tend to like a little bit more power to sound their best. Keep in mind that DI.fm premium streams at 256mp3/128aac. All of these cans will improve with better source material but the premium streams still sound good and a headphone upgrade will improve your listening experience.

 

I own and love all 3 of the aforementioned headphones for electronic music in their own way. I don't own the HD598 nor the DT770 but I have spent considerable time with both cans.

 

- Roy

post #9 of 12
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by milk View Post


Uh.. alright. I guess I see your prospective of the momentums. The dt770s are cool, they have great bass, and a bright treble and sound signature. Though the mids on them aren't very acceptable to me. For headphones that are a bit darker than the 770s with bodied, present mids, smoothed treble, and great bass with awesome capabilities, there are the M-audio Q40. You can snag a refurbished pair for like $50. That's an immense steal! A killer deal and a $30 Beyer pad upgrade just makes them perfect. But whatever you pick, I wish you luck!

Sean

Hey, thank you for your reply and suggestions. I will keep Q-40 in mind.

 

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Originally Posted by adisib View Post
 

PSB M4U1 might be worth considering.

They look amazing too. I will research them.

 

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Originally Posted by Roy Munson View Post
 

Mainly an electronic listener here. Big house/techno head with some DnB and trance tossed in the mix. Also a DI listener. I dislike the HD598 for electronic music. I find them boring and unengaging. They're also open, so not sure if that's a concern for you in the office.

 

The DT770 has a rather apparent emphasis on bass with big impact and maybe lacking a bit in the detail department. They're is also a slight emphasis in the highs, leaving the mids a touch recessed. These are decent for electronic I find, but I much prefer a can with more detailed/textured/exciting mids. For the price though it's not a bad pickup, plus they seal relatively well for an office environment.

 

For purely an electronic can around this price range, the HE400 (open) would probably be the way to go. The bass is very detailed and extended, the mids are wonderful, the treble is detailed although can be a bit sizzle-y at times. These are not neutral cans and have a more "fun" sound signature. I do not prefer these with hip hop though as voices can sometimes have a weird presentation. It's not necessarily bad, I just prefer other cans for hip hop.

 

For a can that can handle both hip hop and electronic I would suggest either the AKG Q701 (open) or the Mr. Speakers Mad Dog (closed). The AKG is very detailed for it's price and also has a very "real" or natural presentation. The sound stage is incredible as well which makes for a great electronic can. The bass doesn't dig as low as the planars, nor do I find the bass to be as detailed, but it's still very enjoyable. They have awesome mids and I think it's where this can really shines. These are a big closer to neutral but I think they're a touch on the warm side.

 

The Mad Dog is a closed planar with great, lush, silky smooth mids, very clean and detailed bass which can sometimes lack impact, and laid back highs which are still detailed but never fatiguing. The Mad Dog also makes for a great hip hop can. These have a relatively dark presentation but are also fairly neutral.

 

All of these headphones will definitely benefit from a good, powerful amp and a dac. If you don't have one already, you might want to price that into your budget. When you start moving into this price range of headphones, most of them tend to like a little bit more power to sound their best. Keep in mind that DI.fm premium streams at 256mp3/128aac. All of these cans will improve with better source material but the premium streams still sound good and a headphone upgrade will improve your listening experience.

 

I own and love all 3 of the aforementioned headphones for electronic music in their own way. I don't own the HD598 nor the DT770 but I have spent considerable time with both cans.

 

- Roy

 

Hey Roy,

 

Thank you for your detailed reply. It is really appreciated.

 

I really like both the Mad Dogs and AKG.

 

But it seems Mad Dog  wins in reviews on Head-Fi. People said that AKG are nor as comfortable and as you have mentioned some complained about bass. Whereas Mad Dogs have great reviews across the board and according to you they are great for electronics which is a huge plus. They look great too. Unfortunately, they are not sold on Amazon, so I hope the website itself will allow me to buy them. https://mrspeakers.com/product/mad-dog-leather-alpha-pads-comfort-strap/

 

Regarding the amp and dac. Since I am investing into good headphones, I might as well invest into amp and dac. What are the good ones you can recommend?

post #10 of 12

I don't find the Q701 to be uncomfortable in the slightest. I think some people have some issues with the headband but it doesn't seem to be an issue for me. I also think people people tend to over exaggerate when talking about how bass light the Q701 is, but I will admit it takes a bit of power to make them shine.

 

I really enjoy my Mad Dogs and I do have the most current revision of the headphone. Amp wise, I've spent considerable time with them on the Magni, Vali, and Lyr (tube amp). I prefer them on the Lyr but assuming that might be a bit outside of your budget, I really liked how they sound off the Vali. The Vali (tube amp) adds to the silky smoothness of the mids and adds some nice clarity and definition to the bass. The magni (solid state) adds a bit more emphasis to the highs which can be nice as the highs are somewhat laid back. For a dac, the modi would pair nicely. Take a look at the following thread for other suggestions of amps that pair well with the Mad Dog. http://www.head-fi.org/t/683118/mr-speakers-mad-dog-3-0-3-2-amp-pairing-recommendation-discussion-thread

 

- Roy

post #11 of 12
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Originally Posted by Roy Munson View Post
 

I don't find the Q701 to be uncomfortable in the slightest. I think some people have some issues with the headband but it doesn't seem to be an issue for me. I also think people people tend to over exaggerate when talking about how bass light the Q701 is, but I will admit it takes a bit of power to make them shine.

 

I really enjoy my Mad Dogs and I do have the most current revision of the headphone. Amp wise, I've spent considerable time with them on the Magni, Vali, and Lyr (tube amp). I prefer them on the Lyr but assuming that might be a bit outside of your budget, I really liked how they sound off the Vali. The Vali (tube amp) adds to the silky smoothness of the mids and adds some nice clarity and definition to the bass. The magni (solid state) adds a bit more emphasis to the highs which can be nice as the highs are somewhat laid back. For a dac, the modi would pair nicely. Take a look at the following thread for other suggestions of amps that pair well with the Mad Dog. http://www.head-fi.org/t/683118/mr-speakers-mad-dog-3-0-3-2-amp-pairing-recommendation-discussion-thread

 

- Roy

 

 

Hey,

 

Thank you again.

 

One last question, what do you mean by revision? If I order from the link I put above, I will have latest one, right?

post #12 of 12

Yes, you will have the latest one. My bad, I should have made that a bit clearer. The current revision of the Mad Dog is the 3.2 (Mad Dog + Leather ALPHA Pads + Comfort Strap). Dan from Mr. Speakers tweaks and upgrades the sound/design of the Mad Dog and will revise the model number when a change is put into production.

 

You're welcome.

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