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post #286 of 583
I just got mine yesterday. Haven't burned-in. So far i like the sound. Very clear and detailed, and surprisingly manage sibilance very well.

The driver sounds like a high quality dynamic driver from the level of details i can hear.

Will start burn-in today.
post #287 of 583
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Originally Posted by earfonia View Post

I just got mine yesterday. Haven't burned-in. So far i like the sound. Very clear and detailed, and surprisingly manage sibilance very well.

The driver sounds like a high quality dynamic driver from the level of details i can hear.

Will start burn-in today.

 

    yup , these are really good phones marred by excessive bass .

post #288 of 583

Don't know if I personally would characterize the bass as excessive. But it's definitely present front and center...probably a matter of taste. I've found I pretty quickly got used to the amount of bass and miss it now on some tracks with my other 'phones. I agree about the assessment regarding sibilance but think that also cuts out a tiny bit of...I hesitate to say sparkle. Maybe some of the upper harmonics on things like steel guitar strings and a little bit of "air" for lack of a better term.

post #289 of 583

Funny - I wouldn't call the bass overly excessive though.  And the bass doesn't mar the signature IMO - it's just a  little different (warmer) than I am normally used to.  I'm still enjoying them when I use them.

post #290 of 583
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Don't know if I personally would characterize the bass as excessive. But it's definitely present front and center...probably a matter of taste. I've found I pretty quickly got used to the amount of bass and miss it now on some tracks with my other 'phones. I agree about the assessment regarding sibilance but think that also cuts out a tiny bit of...I hesitate to say sparkle. Maybe some of the upper harmonics on things like steel guitar strings and a little bit of "air" for lack of a better term.

 yeah it lacks spark like re-400 and ue600 bu its good .

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Funny - I wouldn't call the bass overly excessive though.  And the bass doesn't mar the signature IMO - it's just a  little different (warmer) than I am normally used to.  I'm still enjoying them when I use them.

 

     if not this bass , it would have ranked over re-400 in my ranking .

post #291 of 583

Listening to some classical/orchestral tracks now and going back and forth between these and the TDK IE800. I absolutely love how the fuller bass fills out the sound with this genre. Also, the tiny roll off in the very top registers makes violins sound much sweeter to my ears. YMMV

post #292 of 583
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    yup , these are really good phones marred by excessive bass .

 

Right now I don't hear excessive bass at all.... what I hear, bass is natural in level, maybe slightly less. No where near excessive bass. Not sure after burn-in.

What eartips you use to get more bass?

post #293 of 583
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Listening to some classical/orchestral tracks now and going back and forth between these and the TDK IE800. I absolutely love how the fuller bass fills out the sound with this genre. Also, the tiny roll off in the very top registers makes violins sound much sweeter to my ears. YMMV

 

Yes! S5 sounds great for classical! Clear and spacious! Although I hear some treble hump around 5-7 kHz. Maybe will be smoother after burn-in.

post #294 of 583

Seems like many of us are getting caught in the excess bass area. For me a good amount of bass (within reason) is the difference between a track sounding more "real". I listen to a LOT of live music (at least once or twice a week) locally. All genres. Just about any performance I can manage with my schedule I will try to attend and in live music it's most often the lower end of things that makes it sound more live to me. Yes, occasionally the added bass can mask some detail (thought not a lot with these that I've noticed so far) but it sounds far more like a live performance. Maybe it's the difference between what one might hear at a live performance and in, say, a recording studio. Although I admit I've only been in a small handful. Am I the only one who thinks more low end sounds more "live"?

post #295 of 583
Guessing, those that say that the bass is excessive listen more loudly than those who don't say that...

What I was alluding to earlier is that these seem to be very good IEMs for low volume listening (almost as if they have a 'loudness' function built into them), which (to me) is a big positive in that these don't make me want to crank the volume dial...
post #296 of 583
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Originally Posted by shockdoc View Post
 

Seems like many of us are getting caught in the excess bass area. For me a good amount of bass (within reason) is the difference between a track sounding more "real". I listen to a LOT of live music (at least once or twice a week) locally. All genres. Just about any performance I can manage with my schedule I will try to attend and in live music it's most often the lower end of things that makes it sound more live to me. Yes, occasionally the added bass can mask some detail (thought not a lot with these that I've noticed so far) but it sounds far more like a live performance. Maybe it's the difference between what one might hear at a live performance and in, say, a recording studio. Although I admit I've only been in a small handful. Am I the only one who thinks more low end sounds more "live"?

 

+1

Real live bass has a lot of energy that many IEM fail to reproduce. I like realistic bass as well. Not bloated, not booming, but powerful, tight, and sounds realistic.

Not only 'more' in quantity, but has to be good in quality as well, and able to balance with the rest of the spectrum.

And frankly, at the moment before burn-in, the bass is a little less than what I would like to hear. So I'm really surprise to hear there is a 'bass version' of S5 out there.  Maybe some production inconsistency ?

post #297 of 583
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Guessing, those that say that the bass is excessive listen more loudly than those who don't say that...

What I was alluding to earlier is that these seem to be very good IEMs for low volume listening (almost as if they have a 'loudness' function built into them), which (to me) is a big positive in that these don't make me want to crank the volume dial...

 

I found direct opposite - I alluded to it in the review.  And I don't think it's bass that drives most people to turn up the volume - but how the mid-range (especially the vocals) sit.  The S5 actually has quite a flat mid range relative to the bass  - it shows up in the graphs as well.  I found that I was listening to the S5 at around 6-7bB louder (measured with an SPL meter) than other IEMs I had around me which had a more pronounced mid-range.  Of course your own preferences come to play here though - and if you tend to like more elevated bass - then you may find that lower listening levels are ideal.  Just shows us all that we are very different  :smile:

 

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+1

Real live bass has a lot of energy that many IEM fail to reproduce. I like realistic bass as well. Not bloated, not booming, but powerful, tight, and sounds realistic.

Not only 'more' in quantity, but has to be good in quality as well, and able to balance with the rest of the spectrum.

And frankly, at the moment before burn-in, the bass is a little less than what I would like to hear. So I'm really surprise to hear there is a 'bass version' of S5 out there.  Maybe some production inconsistency ?

 

To my ears, there definitely is quite a bit of bass there - I actually quite like it.  I do think it's north of strictly neutral.  I picked it in my review and Tinyman's measurements definitely show it's there.  I don't think that this is as much production inconsistency - but more fit, tips, and individual preferences.

post #298 of 583
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Just shows us all that we are very different  smile.gif
Yup!

That is why, going back earlier in the thread, no-one should take any questions / critique personally - everyone has different needs / expectations smily_headphones1.gif

The S5, following on from my last post, would be ideally suited to me as 'bedtime' IEMs, as turning up the volume to me lets them get a little ragged...

THAT being said, without an SPL meter, my quiet (24-25 / 40 on the colorfly C3, which will be the basis for my review) could be your loud and vice versa
post #299 of 583
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Yup!

That is why, going back earlier in the thread, no-one should take any questions / critique personally - everyone has different needs / expectations smily_headphones1.gif

The S5, following on from my last post, would be ideally suited to me as 'bedtime' IEMs, as turning up the volume to me lets them get a little ragged...

THAT being said, without an SPL meter, my quiet (24-25 / 40 on the colorfly C3, which will be the basis for my review) could be your loud and vice versa

:beerchug: - yep we're all very different.

 

Are you finding less bass with the C3 because of it's known propensity to roll the bass off?  How did the C3 compare with the X5 when paired with the S5?

post #300 of 583
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To my ears, there definitely is quite a bit of bass there - I actually quite like it.  I do think it's north of strictly neutral.  I picked it in my review and Tinyman's measurements definitely show it's there.  I don't think that this is as much production inconsistency - but more fit, tips, and individual preferences.

 

My experience with S5 is less than a day, so I don't want to conclude anything at the moment. The unit also hasn't been burnt-in.

 

I've been listening S5 with Geek Out 450 last night and this morning, and the bass is slightly less than what I like, and the treble hump at around 5-7 kHz was a bit prominent, a bit too much sparkle for acoustic guitar. Maybe because the unit is new.

But I just tried it with my DACport, oh man... what a different in sound... the treble hump gone, mid and treble is just smooth and enjoyable.... 

And the Bass... yes! The bass improves nicely with DACport!  Now I don't feel the bass is lacking, at least I have more bass now compared to GO 450.

I guess the gear matching is quite crucial with S5.

 

I will let it go to toaster for a few days and try it with more gears later.

 

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