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post #136 of 582

Will do. d marc0 gave me a great tip the other day (I've been volume matching with a test-tone at 1 kHz) - to switch to a 3 kHz tone as it's where more of the vocals lie - so I'm keen to test this out.

 

Because these are so smooth - I've just been finding that it's easy to bump the volume up a bit.  Going to try them with a Studio V3 Anniversary Ed today (brighter DAP), and see how they pair with that (I'm expecting good things).  Also keen to try a little EQ using Acudio Pro on my iPhone.  A little bump in the upper mids and lower treble to give things a little more air might make these just about perfect for me.

post #137 of 582

I have been listen with my S639 and they are fairly easy to drive and a bit more sensitive to power changes. On volume notch 18 they do come alive with some low treble energy the internal amp gives at that point. A slow steady climb till there then the player's amp brightens the sound and the S5 show it as brighter sharper "S' sounds which does add focus do that area and makes the S5 crisper and cleaner sounding. Thankfully no sibilance but cleaner vocals and more emphasis of F's, S's, SHH's and such. I do like it and tend to go that extra notch.

post #138 of 582
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I'm now really looking forward to getting my C3 in tomorrow to see what a good DAP will do to the S5's....methinks nothing but good :wink_face:

post #139 of 582

Wow - just paired them with the Studio V3 Anniversary.  The slightly brighter presentation is really good.

post #140 of 582
After spending a couple weeks using a pair of UE600vi I have grown accustomed to a more mid centric signature so do find my self turning the S5 volume up, add to this the fact that the S5 also extends more in the bass and treble and I have had to cleanse my palet a little to appreciate the S5 signature more.

On the topic of the cable I agree with Brooko a bit because the package does not include a cable clip. But do only notice the issue when running and not walking. It also helps that I wrap excess cord around my phone and have it in a shirt pocket. I do wish the cable was a bit less "sturdy" but consider this a minor issue in my opinion.

Sonically I now feel these are very neutral but in enjoyable fashion. This IEM is also very comfortable to wear. All in all it is definitely Brainwavz best dynamic base IEM to date and rivals or bests a couple IEM's I have tried recently including at least 1 that is considerably more expensive. I wont hesitate to recommend it for anyone who appreciates clarity and accuracy over coloration in their music.
post #141 of 582

^^ Agree

 

The other thing I've found that can dramatically affect the sound signature is the tips.  I can get extreme isolation with a set of Monster Super Tips, but the sound darkened quite a bit (upper mids and highs suffered).  Had been using the gray silicones up to now, and they were quite good.  Just changed to the T400s a couple of hours ago - and BINGO - everything I wanted these to be!  Nicely balanced.  Quite neutral.  Really my type of signature.

post #142 of 582
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After spending a couple weeks using a pair of UE600vi I have grown accustomed to a more mid centric signature so do find my self turning the S5 volume up, add to this the fact that the S5 also extends more in the bass and treble and I have had to cleanse my palet a little to appreciate the S5 signature more.

On the topic of the cable I agree with Brooko a bit because the package does not include a cable clip. But do only notice the issue when running and not walking. It also helps that I wrap excess cord around my phone and have it in a shirt pocket. I do wish the cable was a bit less "sturdy" but consider this a minor issue in my opinion.

Sonically I now feel these are very neutral but in enjoyable fashion. This IEM is also very comfortable to wear. All in all it is definitely Brainwavz best dynamic base IEM to date and rivals or bests a couple IEM's I have tried recently including at least 1 that is considerably more expensive. I wont hesitate to recommend it for anyone who appreciates clarity and accuracy over coloration in their music.

 

     i agree with all . ue600 do lack bass extension . and s5 is more enjoyable and good for casual listening and are comfortable enough . coloration is not a point here . all i am bothered about is bass decay and one or two minor thing .

post #143 of 582
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I still use the S5 more than RE-400, I'm not sure what I'm going to do with my Hifiman atm.

 

ok......so how does it compare to your proto Altone 200? As its just $5 costlier BUT its a Triple Hybrids to single dynamc?
Edited by Shawn71 - 7/11/14 at 4:42am
post #144 of 582
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When listening on my Clip+, I have the volume up a bit over say my B2's, maybe a tick or two more. I guess every headset has it's volume "sweet spot" and to be honest this is the first time I ever thought about that. Let me know what the SPL meter says, you've peaked my curiosity on this one.

 

I just tried it, and with the DN 1000 (also pretty flat) the SPL meter showed the two as very similar (within 1-2 dB) for a normal listening level (track used was Human by Christina Perri).  But - when I used the T-Peos Altone200 to match with, I needed around another 6-7dB louder on the S5 in order to get the vocals approximately matched.  So I guess that's why I've been turning the S5 up a little to get its sweet spot - interesting.

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ok......so how does it compare to your proto Altone 200? As its just $5 costlier BUT its a Triple Hybrids to single dynamc?



S5 cannot produce the clarity of Altone200's mid-range, that's immediately apparent. The 3-Way hybrid is one of the 'clearest' sounding earphones I've heard, (possibly too much for its own good). Though I must say for what Altone is trying to achieve with it's aggressive price to performance ratio Brainwavs S5 run with Colorfly C3 isn't leaps and bounds behind it should be. To add, those who prefer an organic presentation may just find S5 more appealing, though when it comes to mid-range clarity / separation / and accuracy S5 will not outperform T-Peos balanced armatures. 

In short to my ears Altone holds a rather TWFK sound and S5 goes for a more natural approach each having advantage/disadvantage of their driver designs.

The downfall of Altone200 is it may cause early fatigue for people, something S5 will allow much more leeway and longer listening sessions. 

Others mileage may vary.

 


Edited by H20Fidelity - 7/11/14 at 4:44am
post #146 of 582
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^^ Agree

 

The other thing I've found that can dramatically affect the sound signature is the tips.  I can get extreme isolation with a set of Monster Super Tips, but the sound darkened quite a bit (upper mids and highs suffered).  Had been using the gray silicones up to now, and they were quite good.  Just changed to the T400s a couple of hours ago - and BINGO - everything I wanted these to be!  Nicely balanced.  Quite neutral.  Really my type of signature.

The T400's are my fav as well, they just hit that great balance between comfort and sound for me :)

post #147 of 582
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I just tried it, and with the DN 1000 (also pretty flat) the SPL meter showed the two as very similar (within 1-2 dB) for a normal listening level (track used was Human by Christina Perri).  But - when I used the T-Peos Altone200 to match with, I needed around another 6-7dB louder on the S5 in order to get the vocals approximately matched.  So I guess that's why I've been turning the S5 up a little to get its sweet spot - interesting.

That is interesting, something I will definitely be looking for in future reviews........heck, I'm pulling out all of my IEM's and checking for that now, lol.


Edited by dragon2knight - 7/11/14 at 5:03am
post #148 of 582
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S5 cannot produce the clarity of Altone200's mid-range, that's immediately apparent. The 3-Way hybrid is one of the 'clearest' sounding earphones I've heard, (possibly too much for its own good). Though I must say for what Altone is trying to achieve with it's aggressive price to performance ratio Brainwavs S5 run with Colorfly C3 isn't leaps and bounds behind it should be. To add, those who prefer an organic presentation may just find S5 more appealing, though when it comes to mid-range clarity / separation / and accuracy S5 will not outperform T-Peos balanced armatures. 


In short to my ears Altone holds a rather TWFK sound and S5 goes for a more natural approach each having advantage/disadvantage of their driver designs.


The downfall of Altone200 is it may cause early fatigue for people, something S5 will allow much more leeway and longer listening sessions. 

Others mileage may vary.


I see your point...thx. But the dynamic combined w/twfk is sure will be a balanced tonal,more detail retrieval,a wide 3D SS,texture,layering if not more of bass,sub bass,to me,the way t-peos tuned maturedly(i hope this time) after their lessons....from their previous offerings,imho.

And I (just me) cannot take it lighter/under estimate with their price tag of $105 to times 2/3 their rivals and fellow rivals,for that matter. Same like what vsonic offerings on single dynamics.......our community knows,needless to say.

And yeah I already have 4 daps and cannot invest another $130 or so for C3,to really enjoy S5, after spending $100 for S5 if thats is what it was tuned to specific amp dependent....to reveal its potential. Costly affair to me,if I dont own......
post #149 of 582
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I see your point...thx. But the dynamic combined w/twfk is sure will be a balanced tonal,more detail retrieval,a wide 3D SS,texture,layering if not more of bass,sub bass,to me,the way t-peos tuned maturedly(i hope this time) after their lessons....from their previous offerings,imho.

And I (just me) cannot take it lighter/under estimate with their price tag of $105 to times 2/3 their rivals and fellow rivals,for that matter. Same like what vsonic offerings on single dynamics.......our community knows,needless to say.

And yeah I already have 4 daps and cannot invest another $130 or so for C3,to really enjoy S5, after spending $100 for S5 if thats is what it was tuned to specific amp dependent....to reveal its potential. Costly affair to me,if I dont own......



At the end of the day one shouldn't go wrong with either earphone. Altone is still young among the community, it's true values and negatives will surface in due time far more than any one person like myself can  say, that's why I leave it to members and my absence in the Altone thread. I for one worry what people will think of the lower treble, even though it's been adjusted. Now, if that doesn't suit the individual any assests/advantage Altone has over S5 immediately goes out the door. Something S5 already to my ears has covered, versatility and easy listening.

The end of the day for me it's about  being the most versatile and enjoyable / easy on my ears. After owning many 'brightish'  hybrids (H-300, RDB Mini, 1Plus2, Altone200, ER4S) for example, I;m really adapting to the sound of dynamic drivers instead of balanced armatures. It's like I've heard detail, accuracy, clarity etc they provide and it becomes tiring or maybe I'm due for a change,Possibly why I have a soft spot for S5. Like when I listen to Yamaha PR0500, they're not by any means the best headphone though they're an easy non-fatiguing listen.

I'll always have those bright tonality hybrids around though for a quick fix. Just giving the angle I'm coming in from.

I guess listening to earphones every day for almost 3 years  (literally) hasn't helped my cause for early fatigue. :p 

post #150 of 582
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I for one worry what people will think of the lower treble, even though it's been adjusted. Now, if that doesn't suit the individual any assests/advantage Altone has over S5 immediately goes out the door.

Exactly, if the price paid is times 2/3 to S5, BUT certainly not for mere $5 extra.biggrin.gif Nobody can ( truly) complain.

And I agree with BA 's aggressive and bright, as I do have single BA muzx 606 ultra and TF10 and to me the bass(on 606) is what I really miss out to my dynamic IEMs (S5i,vsd1 LE,vsd3S,denon 360,bwavxM5,S1 etc) I have,even my meelec M9 excels($15-$18) in bass (bass head) but rest of the important aspects in sound reproduction is my cup of tea,TO ME....for the price what I paid.(P2P ratio) ........ymmv.

Oh btw,I go little sick (I may say little but its definitely noticable (to me) and its unfair to say just sick,being a fan of bwavz-yeah truth be told biggrin.gif) when I have my S1 for atleast an hour or so due to its tiresome hi's, not sure about others,but it is to me......
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