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post #31 of 89
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Originally Posted by Redcarmoose View Post


Every era has it's own form of shame - this may be one of the 80's worst offenders - those two dudes look like extras from 80's TV soap Dynasty, only with bigger hair - lol biggrin.gif

post #32 of 89

The Good:

 

Yes we are spoiled in a way compared to the 80s. One of the best things about today is the resurrection of tube amps and how good they sound. It is kind of funny how a younger head-fier today can have better knowledge of tubes than a typical music lover who grew up in the 80s since it was a world of solid state stereo amps. But ironically, a 60 year old man can relate to tubes as well as a 25 year old head-fier who owns a tube amp but a typical 40-50 year old music fan will not know anything about vintage tubes. It's kind of funny how tubes in a way-skipped a generation.

 

 

The Bad:

 

Rock is not better today as it was compared to the 70s and 80s and even the 90s. Back in the day, you could look forward to seeing all the great classic rock bands in concert and ticket prices were more affordable. In my opinion, live music is the best and audio gear is secondary no matter how good it sounds. There is nothing like live music and actually being there. In the old days, it was easy for kids to see many concerts due to the affordability. If you lived in the north eastern part of the United States like New York, Philadelphia and Boston, you had a ton of shows. Every band on tour would easily hit these cities so you got to see so many legendary bands that sadly don't exist anymore. These days, many kids seem to have lost interest in actually going out there and seeing live shows in comparison to the old days and to me it is sad. It's sad how so many people would rather see an artist on Youtube rather than actually attending the show. While Youtube is great, it DOES NOT compare to the live experience! I do wish concert ticket prices will go down but since rock is now more corporate, it's a difficult challenge. 

 

The Somewhat Ugly:

 

So ok, when I do attend a live show, sometimes there are so many people trying to video the performance with their cell phones and it's a bit obtrusive to the experience. People should try to actually live in the moment of the music and stop fidgeting with their phones. I am a fan of audio taping shows like how people do it these days at the Phish concerts in the designated tapers section but when you have a bunch of random people with their bright cell phones trying to video tape it, it does get in the way of being in the moment and to me, being in the moment is perhaps the greatest thing in life.


Edited by Spareribs - 6/28/14 at 6:46pm
post #33 of 89
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Originally Posted by cb3723 View Post

My Grandad used to have a Ferguson Videostar toploader VHS cassette recorder and would only use Scotch VHS cassette tapes to record with smily_headphones1.gif
 


My gawd I want a gif from that commerical, xD that was brilliant on so many levels. 

 

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Originally Posted by Spareribs View Post
 

The Good:

 

Yes we are spoiled in a way compared to the 80s. One of the best things about today is the resurrection of tube amps and how good they sound. It is kind of funny how a younger head-fier today can have better knowledge of tubes than a typical music lover who grew up in the 80s since it was a world of solid state stereo amps. But ironically, a 60 year old man can relate to tubes as well as a 25 year old head-fier who owns a tube amp but a typical 40-50 year old music fan will not know anything about vintage tubes. It's kind of funny how tubes in a way-skipped a generation.

 

 

The Bad:

 

Rock is not better today as it was compared to the 70s and 80s and even the 90s. Back in the day, you could look forward to seeing all the great classic rock bands in concert and ticket prices were more affordable. In my opinion, live music is the best and audio gear is secondary no matter how good it sounds. There is nothing like live music and actually being there. In the old days, it was easy for kids to see many concerts due to the affordability. If you lived in the north eastern part of the United States like New York, Philadelphia and Boston, you had a ton of shows. Every band on tour would easily hit these cities so you got to see so many legendary bands that sadly don't exist anymore. These days, many kids seem to have lost interest in actually going out there and seeing live shows in comparison to the old days and to me it is sad. It's sad how so many people would rather see an artist on Youtube rather than actually attending the show. While Youtube is great, it DOES NOT compare to the live experience! I do wish concert ticket prices will go down but since rock is now more corporate, it's a difficult challenge. 

 

The Somewhat Ugly:

 

So ok, when I do attend a live show, sometimes there are so many people trying to video the performance with their cell phones and it's a bit obtrusive to the experience. People should try to actually live in the moment of the music and stop fidgeting with their phones. I am a fan of audio taping shows like how people do it these days at the Phish concerts in the designated tapers section but when you have a bunch of random people with their bright cell phones trying to video tape it, it does get in the way of being in the moment and to me, being in the moment is perhaps the greatest thing in life.

SO true

 

I do feel how ever today's rock is better than a LOT of the American Music From the 80's [gawd 80's music does not sit well with me]

 

and I had a chance to listen to the "Super Deluxe Remaster GOLD Edition" LEad Zepplin Album tonight on the ride home, I also got to hear Jimmy page remind us that he mastered it with the "colored beats headphones" amoungst other things in mind

 

so there's my bad... when good albums are being mastered to over come the shortcomings of **** cans like Beats... [well the old beats, the new ones should be better]

 

Still though, the good is pretty great! And the Ugly is brutally hideous! 

post #34 of 89
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Originally Posted by billybob_jcv View Post

Bah - in the old days you didn't get to choose what music you listened to - the radio station and Rolling Stone decided what music you listened to - and you liked it!


 

I was thinking about this the other day...radio.  It turned me into an audiophile at the age of 8...listening to the radio station, the same station I listen to today.  At 8 was when I realised turning the tone control to 10 o clock made the music sound better coming out of the portable stereo...

 

 

It looked exactly like the above, it was my dads.  So you taped music from the radio, because that maximised sound quality...but more often, what happened was, your mates had one of those too and he had a tape you wanted.  So you face kissed 2 boomboxes together, you yelled shooosh! to everyone to be quiet and played one boombox and recorded the speakers with the other boomboxes mic.  The result was good enough!

 

Many years later when I realised that the same boombox had and 'aux in' and figured it out it was like WOW...tape copies with awesome sound quality!  These were the days before we could afford a telephone line to be installed in our unit.  Many years pass, we live in a house now with...gasp...telephone!  My dad could now afford a midi sized pioneer system with 6 disc stacker, spectrum analyser, graphic equaliser, fibre optic output into the amplifiers 1 bit Direct Linear Conversion, speakers with 10inch woofers handling mids.  Of course mind was blown at the age of 12.

 

I was obsessed with CDs lack of hiss, and also why the spectrum analyzer at the treble region was not as high as the rest....so I always boosted the treble for a flat spectrum analyser thinking I had fixed something.... Then I wanted to learn about music...and it remained for many years in my mind, that hi fi is hi fi and music is music, two separate categories...because what I heard in learning music bore zero semblance to what I heard out of hi fi.  It was not until nearly 3 decades after my first boombox experience when I stumbled across the Sennheisser HD650 and head fi and finally the music and hi fi bore similarity to me...by then I'd already owned your two box standmount audiophile system....abandoned that for 5.1 channel surround...and have since abandoned 5.1 for headphones.  Now going back to two channnel and thinking my old man was correct all along when he chose that big 10 inch woofered pioneer system.  I thought I would impress him with my audiophile standmount system....he never migrated to tiny speakers.

 

Come think about it there are two defining reasons I am an audiophile today.  My dad loved music and I had access to his radio.  And I might possibly still have unresolved daddy issues...hehehe.  As poor as we were, we were always fortunate enough to have music at our fingetips...always.  What saddens me today is knowing that he bought the stereo not for him like I believed for so long...but for me, because I was his first born son...although not me directly...so we could as a family enjoy some pleasures in life.  But it is I and only I that developed an obsession with the machine behind the emotion.

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Originally Posted by Currawong View Post
 

My first cassette player, a Hanimex purchased from a local drug store (!) for $29.95, would, every so slowly, get slower and slower as it played through one side of a tape. After half an hour you'd wonder why the music sounded wrong.

 

Ahhh yes, I remembered that slowing down tape...you abandoned music listening before you ran out of power because it sounded soooo sloooow moootttiiioooon.  What was left in those batteries at that point could probably power an Ipod for two more weeks.  So my ingenuis solution as a kid...this MUST work, was to take a power chord...cut the small end and expose two wires...taped one wire to the negative terminal and the other to the postive...where the batteries went, no brainer really.  plug in the chord and problem solv....spark, pop, smoke and smell.  Only that walkman style player my dad had saved up hard for, had a leather case, built in speakers and a recording function.  Logically I denied all knowledge of involvement of his obviously burnt out non functiong music playing device.  The only thing I knew about transformers was that optimus prime was 'mad, man!'


Edited by SP Wild - 6/29/14 at 5:54am
post #35 of 89
Thread Starter 
Now that many of us here have become music heads, it ends up being really entertaining if you ask your parents about how you reacted to music as a kid. In 69 when I was 7 I insisted my Dad play this song on his car 8 track over and over. I guess I was completely dumbfounded by it.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4Znf2oa_rGo
Edited by Redcarmoose - 6/29/14 at 7:59am
post #36 of 89

I would like to say that I feel lucky to have been there in the 70's to experience records, reel to reel decks, 8 track players, and cassettes and then CD's. Not having internet for most of my life I can say without a doubt that it's one of the best things to happen. Knowledge and crap right at your finger tips. I've seen so many changes in my 41 years and IMO for the better. I'm excited about technology and where it will take us.

 

Yeah I love the music from my childhood and earlier but I love a lot of the music throughout the 80's 90's and present. This is a good time to be alive and having watched all of these changes over the years I can say without a doubt that it's been fun!

 

I lived vicariously through my father throughout the 70's and 80's listening to his audio equipment, his music his passions for audio. There were many years in the 90's through 2000's that I was struggling to get a career going, not having money having to eek by with what I could afford to buy for my music listening enjoyment and eventually in my late 30's I reached a point in my career that I could start spending real money on the things that make me happy and I can now enjoy the fruits of my labor. I couldn't be happier. The wait was worth it. And advancements in technology has provided me access to things I could never experience even back in the 70's.

 

Digital music? Yup thanks I'll take some of that. Tube amps? Sure I'll play with those. CD's? Yeah I have loads. The list goes on and on. We live in a great time.


Edited by Amish - 6/29/14 at 10:39am
post #37 of 89
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Originally Posted by billybob_jcv View Post

Bah - in the old days you didn't get to choose what music you listened to - the radio station and Rolling Stone decided what music you listened to - and you liked it!


Er...I think that still goes on in the world, only from the likes of North Korea though.....

 

I'm not sure what significance that means now or back in the day though?

 

I'm also unsure the relevance to ending three sentences with the word "though"

post #38 of 89
If I ended 3 sentences in a row with "though", I would suspect that my "r" key was broken.
post #39 of 89

We are all spoiled and greedy here :D
...but we would be dumb not to take advantage of these technological advancements, anything to make our lives more easier and pleasurable, right?

post #40 of 89
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by nehcrow View Post

We are all spoiled and greedy here biggrin.gif

...but we would be dumb not to take advantage of these technological advancements, anything to make our lives more easier and pleasurable, right?



That has been the amazement of Western Civilization. We were amazed at the first TV sets then Moon Landing. Now computers. What's next?
post #41 of 89
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Originally Posted by Redcarmoose View Post


That has been the amazement of Western Civilization. We were amazed at the first TV sets then Moon Landing. Now computers. What's next?

I, for one, am excited to see how Western civilization will expand in the future
Thing is we just take everything for granted, always good to truly open your eyes and take in the beauty of everyday life :)

post #42 of 89
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I, for one, am excited to see how Western civilization will expand in the future

Thing is we just take everything for granted, always good to truly open your eyes and take in the beauty of everyday life smily_headphones1.gif



That is so true, just to enjoy a simple sunset in all it's majesty. Still Americans want stuff to always be more and better, faster, cooler and it never ends. That is what makes America great. That's why we design neat stuff. Especially electronics!
post #43 of 89
I don't think technology necessarily makes us spoiled, it's just the way the world works. We would be ignorant not to take advantage of advancement. I'm sure if you compare the 8-tracks that you guys used to enjoy to a Victrola powered by a crank, you would realize that you too were spoiled... just not to the same extent as we are now.

If anything, just audiophiles in general are spoiled because many of us refuse to listen to music with certain equipment, or care more about equipment than the music (I appreciate my gear, but I love music regardless).
post #44 of 89
It's 2014, I want my my flying car! I was promised a flying car and a jet pack!!

post #45 of 89
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Originally Posted by billybob_jcv View Post

It's 2014, I want my my flying car! I was promised a flying car and a jet pack!!

Seriously though, I'm with you dude. Chances are the military has it under raps... waiting to unleash a barrage of flying tanks upon some poor little dictator 

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