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Seriously, I think we are. This is not a discussion for newbies, but the guy that has been listening to audio for a while. The guy who saw tape players go away. The guy who saw LPs go away then comeback.

 

 

 

Things have changed. They really have but in increments so small at times. The challenge is to jog your memory. Go back to the days of buying batteries for portable players. The days of only having one album on a cassette tape that ended up jamming up in the rollers right at the best part of the song.   

 

 

 

I don't want this to end up being a discussion strictly about how older stuff may be better, about modern brick-wall mastering. This thread is about having 30,000 songs at your beckon call. About 10 hour or 14 hour rechargeable batteries. This thread is about not having to walk up a flight of stairs to make a call on a land-line to the Midwest to ask your buddy about the new song you heard on the AM radio.

 

 

 

 

This thread can be about modern complaints too. Like 50TB memory is just not enough!

This thread is complaining about 320kbps rates that sound spectacular. This thread is about the issues with $200 usb cables.

 

 

 

Waaah, Waaah Waaah! 

 

 

Get your silly complaints out of the way here. Better than making a new friend or going to therapy.

 

 

 


Edited by Redcarmoose - 6/27/14 at 1:38am
post #2 of 89
The only thing that isn't better now is the music itself. I'm still listening to the same music I listened to in the 70s. The expansion of my library has been to go *older* not newer, and now I'm also enjoying the old blues masters from the 30s, 40s & 50s. Without digital music, I would never have found and obtained these great tunes.

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Originally Posted by billybob_jcv View Post

The only thing that isn't better now is the music itself. I'm still listening to the same music I listened to in the 70s. The expansion of my library has been to go *older* not newer, and now I'm also enjoying the old blues masters from the 30s, 40s & 50s. Without digital music, I would never have found and obtained these great tunes.

I have the same issue, although I'm finding there is a LOT of good music coming out of Canada these days! 

 

That and being caller #7 on the radio is still a REAL FREAKING challenge lol 

 

as for my  whiny rants... my only one is... well I guess Oh DSD... this whole move to HIGH Res thing just seems like a real pita, granted it's "better" and with hard drives and storage capacities growing, pretty soon gb will be the new Mb [any one remember how AWSEOME the first 1gb Drives where?] But, it's just annoying from my perspective that it's being pushed SO heaviliy now... with a some what small collection of music avaliable in the format... here's to my secrectly hoping Apple has spent the last 10 years collecting DSD or simmilar uber high res format music. That way when they get behind the High Res bubble, there will be some decent choice

 

my other compliant is... why did it take me so long to figure out... that vinyl masters tend to be better for my tastes :/... I listen to a LOT of Jazz and Folk Rock, and MY GAWD the Vinyl rips do sound better, the masters always seem to be a touch blacker and a smidge warmer, which is nice considering my very cold set up

 

ofc the other compliant is WHY are we now trying to make 320k [or mp3 v0] the new Flac? Since when did lossless lose all it's meaning.... ITS FRIGGIN LOSSLESS for a reason, WHY do we feel the neeed to prove the LOSSY is better than lossless... it wasn't 10 years ago and it isn't now [actually ogg vorbis is something I'd like to get behind in terms of lossy]

 

but mp3 REALLY guys... *sigh* and I won't start on the new trend of "SHOW ME UR ABX logs" 

 

that's all for now :3 

post #4 of 89
I blame the interwebs for this instant access to more than ever before, spoilt for choice and perfectly explained below:


But come on now - aren't complaints of the present just as valid as the ancient times?

I see little difference between a cassette tape unraveling into a crumpled hot mess than the agony of choosing which colour cans I'm going to use as my portable set for that particular day - it really can be stressful when you have something like 25 colors to pick from and within those you have variants of base colors like teal, cream/off white/sky blue etc - this is where more choices can work against you for sure. At least you didn't have that issue with just one tape to be concerned about.
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And as for batteries - fair enough, back in the day everything portable ran on double or triple A's which needed replacing, but ever gone out on a quarter charged iPod battery after forgetting to charge it? One of the worst experiences of my life was traveling on London Underground tube system knowing that my iPod would die on me 10mins before my stop which left me totally vulnerable to random whack jobs trying to engage in idle chit chat, usually instigated by remarking about how bad the weather has been, when all I want to do is get back to Skrillex. Longest 10mins of my life, ever - I wouldn't wish it on anyone.

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I mean, I can see your point to a certain degree, when you mention $200 cables, but even here, present day still presents turbulence from expected easy ride as I'm having to endure my ordered custom cables taking 8 weeks from date of order to delivery as company makes them to order and has a backlog.

8 weeks! My friends say I'm a martyr to contend with such a massive inconvenience of such a delay as I'm having to use stock cables which some have microphonic issues to further add with contending with my cable delay which at times feels like a vigil.

Honestly, I feel like I'm on a roll now - first time I went to purchase a flac download of Daft Punks - Random Access Memories Album from HDTracks.com, I was greated with a "not available in your region" message when attempting to checkout. Unbelievable!

In the end I had to use my VPN to trick the site into thinking my IP was from a appropriate region for payment to be accepted and begin download, but not before I had the hassle of having to do a VPN password reset as I couldn't remember it or possibly was that flustered with stress I couldn't concentrate properly. And the download time doubled when using VPN, so my hopes were dashed of hoping to listen to a few tracks off the album, so I left tablet downloading through the night, which was completed by the morning.

Sure, technology is great - when it works mad.gif but are we really "spoilt"?

I think I've shown that the average current day head-fier still faces challenges that are really no different from yesteryear - which Ive no doubt that some guy back then thought that the "tape" generation of the then now, were spoilt rotten, unlike themselves who had to use, a gramophone? Then after that I think there was a 8 track which was only popular in America I think.


So are we spoilt now?

Yes and no.

With technological advancements there is always more.

Simply put, more is moar and no reason to cry for.

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Your message is "spoilt" within this spoiler - that's pretty deep - take a moment..wink.gif
post #5 of 89

Oh some one mentioned HD Tracks, I respect them for the path they have paved for the sale of HD Audio but... :3 let's hope some one will steal their thunder and clean up the little issues with their service [and did I mention the tracks they sell, really dont imo sound all that great... still prefering 20 yeard old Vinyl masters to some of the HD Tracks re masters :/] 

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Oh some one mentioned HD Tracks, I respect them for the path they have paved for the sale of HD Audio but... :3 let's hope some one will steal their thunder and clean up the little issues with their service [and did I mention the tracks they sell, really dont imo sound all that great... still prefering 20 yeard old Vinyl masters to some of the HD Tracks re masters :/] 

Main issue I have with HDTracks is the very limited choice of content - no Prodigy, Iron Maiden, Skrillex, Trance, Dubstep, HardHouse, Goa PSY?

I honestly think their target market is for the over 60's at times, I'm amazed they carried the DP album...hardly spoilt for choice...
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Main issue I have with HDTracks is the very limited choice of content - no Prodigy, Iron Maiden, Skrillex, Trance, Dubstep, HardHouse, Goa PSY?

I honestly think their target market is for the over 60's at times, I'm amazed they carried the DP album...hardly spoilt for choice...

Oh Sup CB wheres your Vader Avatar :3

 

but... I'm still not impressed with much of their releases, there's better masters out there 

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Oh Sup CB wheres your Vader Avatar :3

but... I'm still not impressed with much of their releases, there's better masters out there 

Hi, TBH I couldn't tell the difference between the flac Daft Punk HDTracks download to a lossy iTunes download frown.gif

The best download I've had from HDTracks is "Explorations in Space and Time" which is all binaural, but I'm not hearing any more with flac and combined with little current upto date genres - Ive pretty much just kept with iTunes.
post #9 of 89
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Hi, TBH I couldn't tell the difference between the flac Daft Punk HDTracks download to a lossy iTunes download frown.gif

The best download I've had from HDTracks is "Explorations in Space and Time" which is all binaural, but I'm not hearing any more with flac and combined with little current upto date genres - Ive pretty much just kept with iTunes.

agree'd I liked that ablum, and I enjoyed it in 16bit flac 

 

I will admit AAC is a nice codec, but I still don't feel it's up to par with flac, it could be though the dacs I have, which are my hm801 and NFB 10ES2, don't handle acc and lame as efficently or as nicely as they Do 16 and 24/96 tracks, and seeing as those two formats have been common and accepted as High Quality it makes sense that the standards of old are what sound best in my dacs, as hard ware is designed with specfic goals in mind, or rather with specific functionality with different soft ware codecs

 

that said

 

I'm sure in the future, we will start to see more dac chip sets focused on DSD and the higher resulution formats which may lead to a better sound from those formats, due to the combined benefits of the format it self and the  hard your processing it through. I don't really feel that DSD and 192 bit alone are any better than 24/96 formats we have now, but as the hard ware starts to take advantage of the "proposed" benifits of the new formats we may start to see the differances between the two become more apparent 

post #10 of 89
Bah - in the old days you didn't get to choose what music you listened to - the radio station and Rolling Stone decided what music you listened to - and you liked it!


post #11 of 89
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Bah - in the old days you didn't get to choose what music you listened to - the radio station and Rolling Stone decided what music you listened to - and you liked it!


I remember when Rolling Stone was just about the music q.q 

post #12 of 89
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Cool. Everything went back into the cassette. Now the moment of truth if it plays still in the machine. " I hope the folks dancing here at the party understand we may have to switch to 8 track tapes soon."...................December 31st, 1978 11:30 PM.
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Edited by Redcarmoose - 6/27/14 at 11:14pm
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