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post #211 of 438
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Originally Posted by Leo888 View Post

Actually, what I'm suggesting is for those who received theirs in the Red Box version to post the link of where they ordered from. Then 1clearhead could consolidate them in the op. A little effort on his part for the good of the thread he started.

But your idea of a new thread seems like a good proposition thatbeatsguy. It will be good to have a fresh start to remove any confusion or negatives in the current one.

For the benefit of those like myself who may not have heard a actual or authentic one, any effort to validate it's hype will be greatly appreciated.

Great idea Leo...I agree

post #212 of 438
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Originally Posted by Zaknin View Post

I posted Aliexpress link with Ivery's pics at page 13, this was my first order from this store, 106 transactions in 6 months, 132 overall with 97.2%  (is okay for Ali), but I can't really rec seller as trusted IS-1 source happy_face1.gif  

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post #213 of 438
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Originally Posted by Zaknin View Post
 

Ordered mine from this store

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-Ivery-is-1-wire-belt-earphones-perfect-compatible-for-differend-phones-heavy-bass-high/1121361648.html

 

IMHO, they sound inferior to KZ R1\ED3\Pistons 2 without burn-in.

 

They get better as time goes by. Keep using them!

post #214 of 438
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Originally Posted by 1clearhead View Post
 

 

They get better as time goes by. Keep using them!

They are burning-in right now, will try them again after 50 hours ;)

post #215 of 438
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Originally Posted by thatBeatsguy View Post
 

Well, truth is, there aren't any reputed sellers of the IS-1s as far as I know. Also, Ivery doesn't have an official seller of their own. Penonaudio doesn't have them either, but that's probably because these are of another regular Chinese brand and that there aren't any known suppliers of these so far.

 

Then again, I urge everyone else to speak up. I know I can't since I got mine from 1clearhead, who got it from a headphone store in his area. Even the store seller where 1clearhead bought them from has no idea of the other "versions" of this IEM.

 

+ 1.

 

I could reassure you how the IS-1's in the red box are going to turn out to be, because those are the ones I've been auditioning all along. But, whether the others are fake, knock-offs, older versions, made in a different warehouse in China? Your guess is as good as mine.

 

This is the best resource I can find on them -posted on page 3 from my thread.....

 

.....I really did my best to check this company out, but it looks like they really like being under the radar (sort of speak). Their email returns "failure" and my phone calls go unanswered. They used to have a website, which I think is not operable anymore, but you can try http://www.iverygood.com/. But, I found their Chinese products page >>> http://ivery1688.1688.com/.

 

For those who are still going to place an order, remember, the red box when ordering!

 

Ps. -I do second your idea of a new page. Great idea! Hope to hear your review while doing so!

 

Thanks, -thatBeatsguy.


Edited by 1clearhead - 7/20/14 at 8:11am
post #216 of 438

I don't think I would necessarily trust one being a "real" unit simply by a red box or even a box that was a spot on match. If you've been in this game any length of time you will know that knockoffs are common (though usually not on such a cheap item) and ubiquitous. There was a debate 2 or 3 years ago about some very cleaver knock offs of some FiiO gear. It finally came down to a few small typos in the instructions and actually opening the units and some slightly different internal architecture. FWIW

post #217 of 438

Maybe it's just me but I can't see anybody bothering to knock off an $8 or so item that is also very small volume - what's the point? Knock off something where you can actually make some money. My guess is that given the price point, these are just being fired out and they don't care about product consistency, reliability or packaging, so you "pays your money and you take your chances"

post #218 of 438
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Originally Posted by shockdoc View Post
 

I don't think I would necessarily trust one being a "real" unit simply by a red box or even a box that was a spot on match. If you've been in this game any length of time you will know that knockoffs are common (though usually not on such a cheap item) and ubiquitous. There was a debate 2 or 3 years ago about some very cleaver knock offs of some FiiO gear. It finally came down to a few small typos in the instructions and actually opening the units and some slightly different internal architecture. FWIW

 

 

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Maybe it's just me but I can't see anybody bothering to knock off an $8 or so item that is also very small volume - what's the point? Knock off something where you can actually make some money. My guess is that given the price point, these are just being fired out and they don't care about product consistency, reliability or packaging, so you "pays your money and you take your chances"

 

The point I'm just trying to make is the professional headphone shops I've been walking into only carry the red box versions. I've even ask several shops of the other boxed versions and they have no recollection on those. they advised me just stick to red boxed versions, whether in their shop or online.

 

.....I did check around, you know, as others on this thread wanted some answers, and I did so, so that I can shed some light on this issue. .....just providing some practical and useful information.

post #219 of 438
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Originally Posted by shockdoc View Post
 

I don't think I would necessarily trust one being a "real" unit simply by a red box or even a box that was a spot on match. If you've been in this game any length of time you will know that knockoffs are common (though usually not on such a cheap item) and ubiquitous. There was a debate 2 or 3 years ago about some very cleaver knock offs of some FiiO gear. It finally came down to a few small typos in the instructions and actually opening the units and some slightly different internal architecture. FWIW

 

You have a very good point. If there are blatant fakes of a product, there are sure to be grade A fakes of that product. I mena, look at the Pistons -- there were also some grade A fakes of the product, albeit of the 1.0 only as the manufacturing methods of the 2.0 give them a leap higher in quality.

 

 

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Originally Posted by hockey_magnet View Post
 

Maybe it's just me but I can't see anybody bothering to knock off an $8 or so item that is also very small volume - what's the point? Knock off something where you can actually make some money. My guess is that given the price point, these are just being fired out and they don't care about product consistency, reliability or packaging, so you "pays your money and you take your chances"

Dude. We're talking about China -- the homeland of fakers. You can't just expect the Chinese to not fake anything -- they fake everything, and I mean everything. I'm guessing you haven't been in this game for really long. They knock this off because it actually does make some money. The Chinese fakers fake where they can, when they can. It's because they simply can. They don't care about how much money they will make off of it -- with the constant demand for everything in China, there are bound to be the gullible that buy fakes because "hey, at least it works." 

 

Judge the mentality of (some) Chinese if you will, but it's their choice. They do whatever they want because they can. And who are we to stop them?

 

 

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Originally Posted by 1clearhead View Post

 

The point I'm just trying to make is the professional headphone shops I've been walking into only carry the red box versions. I've even ask several shops of the other boxed versions and they have no recollection on those. they advised me just stick to red boxed versions, whether in their shop or online.

 

.....I did check around, you know, as others on this thread wanted some answers, and I did so, so that I can shed some light on this issue. .....just providing some practical and useful information.

Well, we still don't have that information. Whatever information you're providing us right now is either already known, too vague to understand, or not really necessary.

 

Right now, a hype train on this isn't possible. Of course, they may still be burning in, but I don't think I'm writing a review on this anytime soon. I will have to wait until we get all this cleared up, and until the IEMs reach 100 hours. I'm also going to have to make sure 1clearhead's opinion agrees with mine -- speaking of which, did you ever encounter a lot of sibilance out of the box with these, 1clearhead?


Edited by thatBeatsguy - 7/20/14 at 8:48am
post #220 of 438
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Dude. We're talking about China -- the homeland of fakers. You can't just expect the Chinese to not fake anything -- they fake everything, and I mean everything. I'm guessing you haven't been in this game for really long. They knock this off because it actually does make some money. The Chinese fakers fake where they can, when they can. It's because they simply can. They don't care about how much money they will make off of it -- with the constant demand for everything in China, there are bound to be the gullible that buy fakes because "hey, at least it works." 

 

Judge the mentality of (some) Chinese if you will, but it's their choice. They do whatever they want because they can. And who are we to stop them?


Sorry, but If you mean I haven't been in the buying super cheap Chinese iem's game very long, you're right. And I never will get into that game. Not worth the hassle. However I've been buying quality iem's almost  certainly a lot longer than you as well as other online purchases of goods that are more worth faking. If "they don't care how much money they make" why are they doing it? Of course they're doing it based on making SOME money, - Who manufacturers and sells fake products as a non profit hobby? Why not use those exact same resources to fake something at even a marginally higher price point? Even $20. Or maybe they're thinking that lots of people will actually buy a $6 iem without question and would never bother chasing after the seller so it's easier to get away with it. What do you think their net profit is on a set of these at $6 after paying for materials and overhead? Just curious.


Edited by hockey_magnet - 7/20/14 at 9:07am
post #221 of 438
I guess all the talk about faking isn't helping the course of this thread though it exist in the real world. I can agree to all and every views put forth so far but I think all of us have individual perspectives. Let's move on and use of our brain cells to put this thread back on track. Don't see a need to this debate of fakes (if it do exist) or B grade goods to ruin the joy we get from this hobby of ours. Let's move on guys.
post #222 of 438
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Originally Posted by Leo888 View Post

I guess all the talk about faking isn't helping the course of this thread though it exist in the real world. I can agree to all and every views put forth so far but I think all of us have individual perspectives. Let's move on and use of our brain cells to put this thread back on track. Don't see a need to this debate of fakes (if it do exist) or B grade goods to ruin the joy we get from this hobby of ours. Let's move on guys.

 

What's scary was that that was almost the downfall of the 'Xiaomi Pistons' thread, too.....so many fakes. But, luckily they survived on the revamped models and the reputation they were building among themselves. The Ivery company seems to be doing good in China with excellent Chinese reviews. Now, it's all about stepping outside their boundaries. So now we know reputable headphone shops around China are only buying from the warehouses and selling to the public the red box version. They must be saying something with that.

 

And the best part is they can still be bought for a fraction of the cost of many other IEM's. Now, that's cool!  :cool: 

post #223 of 438
Best of luck 1clearhead. Hope you can revitalise the interest with your discovery. Cheers.
post #224 of 438
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Originally Posted by 1clearhead View Post
 

 

+ 1.

 

I could reassure you how the IS-1's in the red box are going to turn out to be, because those are the ones I've been auditioning all along. But, whether the others are fake, knock-offs, older versions, made in a different warehouse in China? Your guess is as good as mine.

 

This is the best resource I can find on them -posted on page 3 from my thread.....

 

.....I really did my best to check this company out, but it looks like they really like being under the radar (sort of speak). Their email returns "failure" and my phone calls go unanswered. They used to have a website, which I think is not operable anymore, but you can try http://www.iverygood.com/. But, I found their Chinese products page >>> http://ivery1688.1688.com/.

 

For those who are still going to place an order, remember, the red box when ordering!

 

Ps. -I do second your idea of a new page. Great idea! Hope to hear your review while doing so!

 

Thanks, -thatBeatsguy.

Got my Ivery IS-1 today and no red box. The front of the box is white on the bottom half and clear on the top half....doesn't look good...

post #225 of 438
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Originally Posted by Charliemotta View Post
 

Got my Ivery IS-1 today and no red box. The front of the box is white on the bottom half and clear on the top half....doesn't look good...

Well, there's one thing you should know whether or not the box isn't right: the sound. My pair, straight outta the box, sounds very bright nad hot in the treble. The sub-bass sounds rolled off as well, while the midrange seems perfectly fine.

 

I'm currently loving these with the Child of Light OST right now. They really bring out the intimacy of the pianos and strings that, so far, only the Pistons 2.0 have given me. Okay, maybe the H6 did that too, but I don't own that pair. The treble is still too harsh and the sub-bass still too weak for dubstep and electronic genres (which, by the way, I just got two albums of this week), but I'll keep burning in, see if anything changes in the 30-hour mark. They're still currently at about 24 hours of burn-in, but I'll keep you posted with the results.

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