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Oh man that is a sick picture. I didn't know you were a professional photographer or editor.



No no no, I'm neither of those, just someone who practices and watches many tutorials. :smile:

Guess it's better being honest than the unfortunate people I showed via PM msg telling them I did it with a pencil, free-hand. :wink_face: 

post #647 of 838
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It is a good IEM, when you listen and think I'm buying another pair for no apparent reason other than to have backup it's a sure thing for me. I bought another pair, like Brooko did.

 

 

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No brainer really - one of the best sounding pairs of IEMs I've ever owned :)

 

From what I can gather, the build quality seems much better than the Tenores (No driver flex or channel imbalance for a start) but since I listen to a lot of pop (English and Korean) and EDM, I was wondering what the sub bass was like in comparison to the Tenore. I love the sound signature of them and was wondering if the Altones would suit.

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I'm torn as to whether or not to get these to replace my Tenore or not..

Dont consider replacing your tenores (totally different league) but just buy the Altones....to move onto next level.....wink.gif
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From what I can gather, the build quality seems much better than the Tenores (No driver flex or channel imbalance for a start) but since I listen to a lot of pop (English and Korean) and EDM, I was wondering what the sub bass was like in comparison to the Tenore. I love the sound signature of them and was wondering if the Altones would suit.

There is some driver flex, which can be executed by pressing the housing while it is in the ear. But in general usage you won't notice it.

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From what I can gather, the build quality seems much better than the Tenores (No driver flex or channel imbalance for a start) but since I listen to a lot of pop (English and Korean) and EDM, I was wondering what the sub bass was like in comparison to the Tenore. I love the sound signature of them and was wondering if the Altones would suit.



Haven't heard the Tenore sorry.

Only honest advise I can give you is reading too much here does absolutely nothing but generate more confusion. The true answer to your questions lies in your own hands on experience. Then, if it doesn't work out sell the piece of equipment for a little less.

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Dont consider replacing your tenores (totally different league) but just buy the Altones....to move onto next level.....wink.gif

 

Only reason I'm even looking for a replacement is because of the fact that the channel imbalance issues have got me fed up to the point that I don't even want to get them replaced only to go through the same troubles again. Great sound, atrocious quality control.

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There is some driver flex, which can be executed by pressing the housing while it is in the ear. But in general usage you won't notice it.

 

I see, nothing too bad then.

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Haven't heard the Tenore sorry.

Only honest advise I can give you is reading too much here does absolutely nothing but generate more confusion. The true answer to your questions lies in your own hands on experience. Then, if it doesn't work out sell the piece of equipment for a little less.

 

I may just do that. I assume that if I buy a pair now I'd get a pair that were defect free seeing as though they've figured out the issue.

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Long time lurker...haha. Just thought I'd just share my quick impressions of these. I've had these for just under a week. Aside from these I have a couple of other sets - Sunrise XCape IE, Vsonic GR07.

Compared to the GR07, with the Altones everything sounds clearer, however the GR07 still does the lows better imho - feels like there is more body to the lows with the GR07.

The difference between the Xcape and these is more marked (with the Xcape having an overall 'smoother' sound, and the Altones having more clarity), but don't get me wrong, all 3 of these IEMs are pretty good value.

Where I feel the Altone200s really shine is the treble/highs - this is probably the area where the BA drivers take over and it shows. The sound is articulate and/but has the trademark (to me) metallic BA sound. (the metallic sound of BAs were what put me off the Bainwavz B2 and other BAs previously)

The only niggle I've had is that sometimes the highs can sound a little harsh even at moderate volumes (20 on the Hidizs AP100). After some mucking about swapping tips around I've found that Sony hybrid tips work to reduce this harshness to an extent, and this is what I currently have on them.

As a side note, if anyone is interested, the tips from the Sunrise Xcape fit these, and Comply foam tips T/Ts-400 will fit as well.


Edited by hte80 - 8/7/14 at 6:42am
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Another fellow Vsonican has spoken, most excellent. GR07 V/BE low end is a thing of beauty IMO. Coming in at two quantity lvls to please both flatoneans and hillrisers alike. All Hail the mighty SoundTrumpet.™
Edited by UnityIsPower - 8/7/14 at 8:02am
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Kinda reminds me of that old Ghostbusters quote:  "Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!"

I need to re-watch that Classic. :/
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So sub bass for pop/EDM isn't of a concern with these then? Don't think I'd want much less bass than my Tenore and I'm just curious before I pull the trigger.

post #656 of 838
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Originally Posted by Mackem View Post
 

So sub bass for pop/EDM isn't of a concern with these then? Don't think I'd want much less bass than my Tenore and I'm just curious before I pull the trigger.



The bass is no problem any longer, it has been addressed. absolutely fine for the genres you mentioned.

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Any idea on how to tell if you have a messed up version? I've read of weak bass and pretty sure I've got one...the $40 dual dynamic Narmoo S1's that I have definitely have much more noticeable and deeper bass. 

 

Bass with the Altone200 just doesn't seem as deep as it should be based on reviews that I've read. 

 

EDIT: Just tried some bass sweeps off of YouTube and I can definitely hear 15hz and 20hz...just the bass in music sounds a LOT weaker than the Narmoo's...like to the point of almost being non existent. So bass sweeps = bass but music = no bass? Huh?

 

Was I expecting more bass than I'm getting or something? I somehow doubt my $40 Narmoo's blow the Altone away with bass...

 

EDIT 2: Further listening is making me think there is something wrong. Not only do they nearly lack any sub-bass (despite bass sweeps having it) but they have weaker bass or at least on par with the E4RS that I owned...which were pretty weak sauce. I just doubt my Narmoo's are THAT much better with bass considering what everyone is saying about the Altones...something just doesn't SEEM right...

 

Thoughts?


Edited by AndroidVageta - 8/9/14 at 10:01am
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Originally Posted by Mackem View Post
 

So sub bass for pop/EDM isn't of a concern with these then? Don't think I'd want much less bass than my Tenore and I'm just curious before I pull the trigger.

I don't know dude...like I say in my post right above I can't tell if mine are screwy or if the bass isn't NEARLY as good as people make it out to be. My cheap $40 dual dynamic Narmoo S1 have MUCH better bass...both in deepness, impact, and extension. They make these Altones sound cheap. 

 

I bought mine used and just contacted the person I got them from here to see what he says. Either way...not impressed and pretty let down over all with the bass. Mids and highs are good but considering we have a dynamic PURELY for bass...yeah...I'm just not hearing it. These sound like they could be a single armature honestly. 

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You shouldn't even be worried about bass, period. Send them back. The bass should be powerful, deep and rumbling.
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You shouldn't even be worried about bass, period. Send them back. The bass should be powerful, deep and rumbling.

Do you know if defective pairs do horribly in bass sweeps? Like I said, the bass sounds pretty good when playing PURE bass but with music...it's nearly not there. Why would they sound OK with bass tests but music would sound a lot less powerful? Not doubting you at all, just curious.

 

EDIT: OK...yeah...they aren't right. Even bass sweeps sound a lot deeper and impactful on the Narmoos than the Altones could ever DREAM of being. 

 

What's the next step? How do I return them?


Edited by AndroidVageta - 8/9/14 at 10:18am
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