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HELP does balanced to 3.5mm adapter retain balanced signal?

post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 

hello, forgive me as im not too bright on these things but i just bought the rsa protector to use the balanced output with my um miracle ciem. i am now trying to understand if i should buy a balanced iem cable for the miracles, or if i can just buy the balanced to 3.5mm adapter this way i can use with all my iems. what im unsure of is whether or not the adapter simply downgrades it back to a se signal or does the adapter retain the balanced signal (hope i said that right) any help is greatly appreciated. thanks.

post #2 of 10

The balanced to 3.5mm adapter converts balanced mode back to single ended.  This assumes that the rest of your audio chain is already balanced including DAC and amp.

post #3 of 10
Thread Starter 

i see.. i have an ibasso r10 with rsa protector amp, no dac. so if i have balanced amp only, will the signal still be balanced then or i need dac and balanced interconnects? does source need to have balanced output as well? im sorry just trying to reach that next level in sound but this whole "balanced" thing is like a foreign language to me.

post #4 of 10

The whole chain (source > amp > phones) needs to be able to carry the balanced signal. It doesn't appear your source or IEMs have the capability.

post #5 of 10

You are going to have to dig around here because I am not an expert on balanced drive.  From what I know is there are different types of setups for the term "balanced", but the one most people talk about is basically removing the common ground.

 

Here is a better explanation:

 

http://www.headphone.com/pages/balanced-headphones-guide

 

I have a truly balanced system and honestly cannot tell the difference between single ended and balanced.  This includes using a balanced headphone and then terminating it into a single ended connector to do the A/B comparison.  I think you gain about 6dB in volume and reject some ground noise, but a good setup should already have no audible ground noise.

post #6 of 10
Thread Starter 

thanks so much NA Blur, that info answered a lot of my questions. seems like the whole "balanced" thing may not be the best way for me to spend my money... might just put it towards a new pair of customs :D

post #7 of 10

If you want you could list your current setup people here may suggest how you might upgrade.

 

List your Source (PC, iPod, etc )

Amp

DAC

Headphones

 

Your Miracles are quite capable so be sure to include what you think is missing.  We may just suggest some new tunes for you.

post #8 of 10
Thread Starter 

i have a portable setup.. an ibasso r10 source, i dont have a seperate dac unit, have the jds labs c421 (cant remember which version of op amp) and i also have the rsa protector. been mostly using the protector tho, my c421 been on a shelf. my music is mostly steely dan, van morrison, dave matthews, eric clapton etc.. any suggestions u can give are greatly appreciated.

post #9 of 10
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Originally Posted by audioconsumer View Post

i have a portable setup.. an ibasso r10 source, i dont have a seperate dac unit, have the jds labs c421 (cant remember which version of op amp) and i also have the rsa protector. been mostly using the protector tho, my c421 been on a shelf. my music is mostly steely dan, van morrison, dave matthews, eric clapton etc.. any suggestions u can give are greatly appreciated.

I am little confused what is your question? If you are wondering about a balanced set up, all you need with your current setup is balanced terminated cables. The RSA Protector can convert a single input signal into a balanced output.
post #10 of 10
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by spook76 View Post


I am little confused what is your question? If you are wondering about a balanced set up, all you need with your current setup is balanced terminated cables. The RSA Protector can convert a single input signal into a balanced output.

no question, just listing my setup as suggested by NA Blur for possible upgrade suggestions. 

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