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post #16 of 29
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Understandable. If you ask me, I'm not very fond of the k812 since it seems to measure rather mediocre for a flagship and it doesn't quite seem to be that amazing.
Wouldn't buy pm-1 either because it seems to roll the treble and just isn't very convincing to me either.
Nor would I buy the Audeze, they are too heavy. The sound could convince me though, but I'd want to demo them first.

 

But is there a set of headphones you would recommend for this?  I can't be the first guy planning to plug a set of high-end headphones straight into a nice DAC.  Are there any that could sound better than the K812 without an amp?  There is quite a "smartphone" buzz around the K812.

post #17 of 29
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DOn't use a High end Headphone with only a Dac, that's not the best idea in the world, In stead get your self something like the LCD X, the AKG K812, The Beyerdynamic T1, the LCD 3, the Hifiman HE 560, maybe even the HE 6

 

and then spend your reaming, like $1500 dollars on a nice amp, for under $3000, you'll enjoy your headphones a LOT more than just our of ur dac 

 

I understand that is the conventional wisdom, but the AKG K812 is said to sound great even connected to a smartphone:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/685339/akg-k812-pro#post_9877645

 

Can any other high-end headphone make that claim?

post #18 of 29

I can't quite think of anything else being that efficient..

 

Still, take anecdotal stuff with a grain of salt, people say so much. I don't know if it is tuned to be unforgiving towards bad sources or something, but I wouldn't necessarily see that as a good thing. 

 

I take it is not an option to use whatever speaker amp you have to power a pair of headphones?

 

Else, fostex th-600/900 are ever so slightly more efficient than lcd-x.

 

Based on specs, the hd800 wouldn't (generally) be considerably harder to drive than k812 for many amps. It might be higher impedance, yet it is only 3 dB/V less efficient than k812 based on Tyll's measurements. It does require a good source according to many, though.

 

Oppo pm-1 is still the most efficient of the bunch.


Edited by davidsh - 6/22/14 at 9:23am
post #19 of 29
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My amp will be in another room with my main system.  This headphone system is for my study.

 

The Oppo PM-1 is intriguing since it's so efficient.  I think I've read that it doesn't quite stack up to the other headphones we're discussing though.  I may try the AKG and switch to the Oppo if I need more efficiency.  Is there a best place to buy online with a good return policy?

post #20 of 29

I guess the headphone of choice highly depends on what sound you want in the first place..

post #21 of 29
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I guess the headphone of choice highly depends on what sound you want in the first place..

 

Would you choose the K812 or PM-1?

post #22 of 29

You know what, ppl are enjoying the HD 800 with the Schiit Vali, you could go that route 

 

feed the Vali with that glorious Dac of yours ;3


Edited by Mshenay - 6/22/14 at 8:55pm
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I guess the headphone of choice highly depends on what sound you want in the first place..

Would you choose the K812 or PM-1?
A tough one. I really don't know. Perhaps I'd go with pm-1 if a headphone amp wasn't an option.
post #24 of 29
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A tough one. I really don't know. Perhaps I'd go with pm-1 if a headphone amp wasn't an option.

 

This was just posted:

 

"spend an hour auditioning K812 out of AK240 and really fell in love with the sound.   actually went to the shop to try Oppo PM-1 but after trying both, went for the K812.   Yummy."

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/685339/akg-k812-pro/2565#post_10656282

post #25 of 29

Well, I haven't tried any of the mentioned headphones in the first place, nor have I researched them properly.

 

I am myself waiting for the hd800 to arrive, hopefully it will tomorrow.

post #26 of 29
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I'm sure you'll love them.  Thank you for your help!

post #27 of 29
You are most welcome.
post #28 of 29
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I am myself waiting for the hd800 to arrive, hopefully it will tomorrow.

Awesome, I look forward to your impressions.

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I am myself waiting for the hd800 to arrive, hopefully it will tomorrow.
Awesome, I look forward to your impressions.
Compared to anything in particular?
Well, they are in the country now but darn they are slow! Don't think I'll get it tomorrow..
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