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post #16 of 270
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Originally Posted by wallijonn
Sduibek,

Congratulations.

I do have to ask if the stock was ever listened to without the foam donut, if the foam donut is used with the woodies, if other materials were tried (like cotton acoustic batting or cotton balls), if the "deeper" woodies you mention reflect the same internal volume as the stock, and if the stock flange is used with the woodies as the stock flange, I believe, angle the drivers.

Post script,

Where's the pics?
wallijonn, the cups are not attached in any way to the drivers, the cups rest over the baffle where the drivers are mounted that attaches to the headband, the cup is just the cover, nothing else, is not like the R-10 or other woodies in which the cup is the body of the cup, and everything is attached to it
post #17 of 270
While I'm here, and was there with Sduibek, I can answer those q's wallijohn. He did try that, it's not in his, yes cotton was tried, similiar volume to R10, the stock flat flange matches the woody's flange which is as Sov described. No pics cuz I'm still putting the finish on his Purple Hearts, he tried them unfinished. Should have them back in a day or two...

Sov you have an extra CD3000 your willing to part with?
post #18 of 270
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Originally Posted by Xanadu777
Sov you have an extra CD3000 your willing to part with?
I have it already listed in the FS forum....yep is one of the new ones....I got enough with two....LOL....
post #19 of 270
AdamZuf,

Umm...I am a member. Do you mean a member of the CD3K club? Cuz I don't have them (yet).
post #20 of 270
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Originally Posted by Norbert
AdamZuf,

Umm...I am a member. Do you mean a member of the CD3K club? Cuz I don't have them (yet).
Hey, more respect this is not a CLUB, it is a Liberation Front, is a serious membership, a cult, we all have a tatoo of the CD3000

post #21 of 270
I think the stock cd3000s have their flaws,such as:unnatural/artificial treble,not enough fulness/flesh in the sound.Also,tho its just personal taste,Id like them to be warmer,more musical-may be its my source thats not warm enough,but im not gonna change my source.If wood corrects all of these,you have a nearly-perfect all-around headphone,wich is what im looking for.
post #22 of 270
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Originally Posted by cadobhuk
I think the stock cd3000s have their flaws,such as:unnatural/artificial treble,not enough fulness/flesh in the sound.Also,tho its just personal taste,Id like them to be warmer,more musical-may be its my source thats not warm enough,but im not gonna change my source.If wood corrects all of these,you have a nearly-perfect all-around headphone,wich is what im looking for.
If you found the CD3000 to sound like this, you need another headphone, there in no "tweak" in earth, that will make such an change in any headphone sound....
post #23 of 270
yeah,I know,like RS-1 has those fixed compared to CD3ks.But I also need big soundstage with good separation and perfect comfort,thats the most important.HD650 - I need the agrissive/transparent/inyourface sound.I dont have money for R10,and I dont think ever will.If modding doesnt do any improvement,I'll be happy with stock ones,but why wouldn't it?
post #24 of 270
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Originally Posted by cadobhuk
I think the stock cd3000s have their flaws,such as:unnatural/artificial treble,not enough fulness/flesh in the sound.Also,tho its just personal taste,Id like them to be warmer,more musical.
We think alike
post #25 of 270
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Originally Posted by cadobhuk
why wouldn't it?
Because IMO you are asking too much from a "tweak", a tweak will give you subtle improvements, here or there, people will call them "day and night", as ususal, but IMO are just this, very subtle improvements, but I have the impression that the change you are looking for is too big...to fall into the "tweak" category
post #26 of 270
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Originally Posted by cadobhuk
I think the stock cd3000s have their flaws,such as:unnatural/artificial treble,not enough fulness/flesh in the sound.Also,tho its just personal taste,Id like them to be warmer,more musical-may be its my source thats not warm enough,but im not gonna change my source.If wood corrects all of these,you have a nearly-perfect all-around headphone,wich is what im looking for.
through the modded DI/O, the (stock) CD3000's treble is excellent, nothing unnatural. far better then the HD600. cymbals was just a bliss.. and how they decayed into the soundstage... wow! the reproduction of metalic can't be touched by any of my other headphones.
there is a lack of flesh (or "too much air") in the bass-lower mid department, but they was certainly full.
all other sources sounded less good in all parts of the frequerncy spectrum.
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yeah,I know,like RS-1 has those fixed compared to CD3ks. But I also need big soundstage with good separation and perfect comfort,thats the most important.
the RS-1 and CD3000 represents 2 very different aesthetic way of listening, each with great qualities. it's great to own both.
post #27 of 270
Oh, no! Not another CD3000 vs HD6X0 thread

Honestely, there are tons of threads like this in the archives.

The end result is: to some HD600 is "veiled" to others C3000 is "bright". You can also substitute the qualifiers for other words like "natural"/"dynamic" or whatever.

Let's just accept that some like one, while others like the other

Let's try to stick to Woody discussion...

regards,
halcyon
post #28 of 270
Sov,
I seriously can't understand how you can make such huge, sweeping generalizations about the sound of something that you've never heard???
I mean, look at what happens to the HD600/650's when you remove the foam and put in the pantyhose material! You get an almost transformed sound. And for a small "tweak," it sure provides a definite, immediately noticeable change. I think the material used in headphones plays a much bigger role in the sound than you think. Look how much of a difference it makes when constructing the drivers themselves. Look at how big a difference it makes when a person changes the material on the walls of a listening room...different materials form different sound characteristics. After all, the reason why sound engineers use certain materials for audio products is because those certain materials produce a certain type of sound...a sound that they tailor to their personal tastes through using those specific materials. Even though you personally can't "foresee" a change in the sound and are completely happy with the stock sound, doesn't mean the differences aren't there. It sounds as if you know the differences might be there, but you also refuse to find out...I guess I'm kind of confused by some of your statements??? According to two people, the differences are in fact there. I just think you should reserve judgement until you've personally heard a woodied CD3k for yourself.
post #29 of 270
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Originally Posted by halcyon
Oh, no! Not another CD3000 vs HD6X0 thread
that wasn't the intension. what i meant is that the HD600's treble is considered to be very natural (i respect it too, and see why many people love it), and that i found that on my setup, the CD3000's treble sounded more natural to me, unlike other setups.
so the point was which setup is powering the CD3000, not if the CD3000 are more natural then the HD600, i just used the senns as an example for the improvement the CD3000 gain with the DI/O.
i could say the same about ety's or DT880, but i think that less people refer to their treble as a reference then senns.
post #30 of 270
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Originally Posted by zeplin
Sov,
I seriously can't understand how you can make such huge, sweeping generalizations about the sound of something that you've never heard???
I mean, look at what happens to the HD600/650's when you remove the foam and put in the pantyhose material! You get an almost transformed sound. And for a small "tweak," it sure provides a definite, immediately noticeable change. I think the material used in headphones plays a much bigger role in the sound than you think. Look how much of a difference it makes when constructing the drivers themselves. Look at how big a difference it makes when a person changes the material on the walls of a listening room...different materials form different sound characteristics. After all, the reason why sound engineers use certain materials for audio products is because those certain materials produce a certain type of sound...a sound that they tailor to their personal tastes through using those specific materials. Even though you personally can't "foresee" a change in the sound and are completely happy with the stock sound, doesn't mean the differences aren't there. It sounds as if you know the differences might be there, but you also refuse to find out...I guess I'm kind of confused by some of your statements??? According to two people, the differences are in fact there. I just think you should reserve judgement until you've personally heard a woodied CD3k for yourself.
I don't know what to say, but I look at the mod this way, the CD3000 is a closed headphone, the rear chamber is not connected to the one you hear at all, is not like a ported speaker OK, it works like a sealed enclosure, so the only funtion of the rear chamber is damping the sound behind the driver, but you are not hearing at all what is happening behind the driver, just the effect that this principle of functioning produce over the driver itlsef, right?
This it is not like the case of a musical instrument in which you actually hear the sound of the chamber, no, in the CD3000 you only hear the driver, the echoe, resonance etc.. of the chamber is not heard directly, it is behind the front baffle and driver, in which way this may affect the overall sound, I don't know, but for sure the effect should be more subtle, as if the chamber were open to the front like a ported enclosure..

By the way I have heard the HD600 with, and without, the foam, and the difference (if any) is very subtle also, is not that big as you are trying to point it out....sorry but that was my experience, i was trying ot remove that veil, and that laid back sound, and I was never able to do it....there was no mod that changed that....
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