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post #31 of 46
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Originally Posted by coolcucumber91 View Post
 

Also, now that I think about it, I can use my Macbook as another option for a music source

 

Get a Schiit Modii DAC ($110) or Hifimediy Sabre U2 DAC ($65), connect it between the Macbook and the studio monitors.

post #32 of 46

seeing this thread has hit 3 pages with a variety of important questions unanswered (unasked too) i say go with the baby KEF's.

post #33 of 46
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Originally Posted by coolcucumber91 View Post
 

Although most likely my room/ apartment will be small, the bass extension sounds nice. Can you recommend any that's under 500? Keep in mind I'm no stereophile but I do appreciate clear sound

 

500 what? dollars , pounds? or euros?.

 

What would be the pros of getting bookshelf over floorstanding? I do think that would be definitely a practical option bc they are easy to carry around. Also, I looked at the KEF X300A, but I noticed they are used for computer use... although I know bookshelf speakers can be used as computer speakers, aren't they different? Is there a difference? I'm guessing some computer speakers such as a 2.1 system wouldn't make good bookshelf speakers for music only since the subwoofer is separate? 

 

Also, is there a downside of having an amp integrated in the speakers vs. a separate amp?

 

If you want some speakers you can carry around you want a small pair of active speakers, 2.1 systems are good especially if you want decent bass extension that bookshelves can't provide.

 

Same question as above, is there a downside of having an integrated amp? Speakers look real nice though.. I plan to use my tablet though. I'm supposed to plug it into an amp, but since it's integrated, I'll have to plug it in to the speakers themselves?

 

Theres no downside but the plus side is much better crossovers in active speakers.

 

See, I was planning to use an app that streams music for background music, which is why I want to use my Nexus 7. Although it isn't the best audio source, the app itself is nice, versatile, and streams decent quality music (256 kbs, check out Songza). The Monoprice looks real nice, and spending under 500 would be great haha. Once I make money, I plan to get really nice speakers. My dad has a set that is >$10,000 lol. But I am a poor college graduate right now

 

The nexus 7 will make a good source you just need a dac thats works with it.

 

I have a DAC though, couldn't I use that instead? Not sure what a stereo rca line out is but the it has a headphone jack, usb, coaxial, and a left (white) and right (red)

 

Yep it might not work too well with your nexus 7 and it might draw alot of power from the nexus draining its battery, the ifi nano has its own built in battery so doesn't draw any power. stereo rca is the white/red jacks.

 

So are T-amps good? Will definitely look at the options you have suggested

 

Yep longs you don't want to reach high spls.

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post #35 of 46


Have you heard that Bose system?

 

I have, and I wouldn't recommend it.  Very poor sound quality, the "bass module" is not a subwoofer (more of a mid bass module), and the system can't be upgraded.

 

There are far better options for small speakers and a small sub, many of which have already been mentioned in this thread.

post #36 of 46
It could be very difficult to place towers well in a tiny bedroom. Bookshelves would give you more flexibility for placement. I would recommend speakers and a sub instead if you want the extra bass extension that towers have over bookshelves. Plus, a decent sub can extend deeper than any tower well. Since this is your first system, I would actually encourage you to consider just getting good bookshelves and receiver. Then later on, you could add a sub down the road if a subwoofer doesn't sound too exciting to you now.

Then, because you will have this setup in either a bedroom or small apartment, the extra dynamics that towers can provide should be unnecessary. You won't need monster speakers that can be driven to incredible volumes. A good pair of bookshelves can sound just as good as towers at the same price point. They just won't dig quite as deep in bass, but you can still get bookshelves with good midbass output.

All of the following are based on recommendations regular given over at AVS's speaker forum where people regularly seek systems with budgets like yours, and all are good price performance value propositions.

First, a receiver. The Denon E300. Allows for streaming music wirelessly from iTunes: http://usa.denon.com/us/product/pages/productdetail.aspx?catid=avreceivers(denonna)&pid=avre300(denonna)
A really good deal on the E300 is the factory warrantied/factory refurbished one from accessories4less.com. That will run you around $190, which leaves you a good bit of your budget left.

Also at accessories4less is the Mordaunt Short Aviano 7 subwoofer for $288. With a sub, you are not only buying a big speaker, but also an amplifier for it (which is why they tend to cost a good bit).

Then for speakers, I have Ascend Acoustics CBM-170 SEs. They are a great value because Ascend is a factory direct speaker vendor. If you want to skip the sub for now, Ascend also has CBM-340 SE mini towers. Or for just bookshelves, the JBL 530s could be another choice. Then as more of a budget saver, the EMP Tek E5Bi.

For a speaker/sub package deal, the HSU Value 1 package with HB-1 speakers and STF-1 subwoofer. The HS-1s are another option over the Ascend Acoustics CBM-170 SEs.

Now if you would really rather go with floorstanding towers, you won't beat the deal on the Focal Chorus 717V that accessories4less.com has.

Additional tips:

1) DO NOT pay full MSRP for passive speakers from traditional speaker companies that you find in brick and mortar stores. There are some Internet direct companies--like EMP Tek, HSU, and Ascend Acoustics--that provide much better value. Similarly for subwoofers. Generally over-priced for what you get unless you pay substantially off MSRP or order from one of the more well-known Internet direct vendors.

2) Powered speakers can be a good option for a desktop computer setup. But an AVR and passive speakers offers many more feature options, including the opportunity to build outward to a 5.1 HT setup in the future, hook in other devices (eg., TV, gaming console), bass management for subwoofer integration, and room correction software which smooths the in-room response of the speakers.
post #37 of 46
Also, stay away from Bose Acoustimass and Bose speakers in general. Not a good price/performance value at all.
post #38 of 46

if it is ambient music, firing those twin cubes in diff directions,over the head,

with the acoustimass bass module reflecting off a wall, 

can be a very swirling, flooding, soothing kind of experience. :P

( just another option...for AMBIENT music, whilst he concentrate on his BOOKS. )

 

can be v enjoyable for movies too. 

 

 

 

and if u are not too picky over high fidelity vocals... :P 

post #39 of 46
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Originally Posted by Lorspeaker View Post

if it is ambient music, firing those twin cubes in diff directions,over the head,
with the acoustimass bass module reflecting off a wall, 
can be a very swirling, flooding, soothing kind of experience. :P
( just another option...for AMBIENT music, whilst he concentrate on his BOOKS. )

can be v enjoyable for movies too. 



and if u are not too picky over high fidelity vocals... :P 

With Bose speakers, a lot of the cost (price) goes towards Bose extensive marketing that attempts to convince people to buy their substandard speakers and then also for the hefty Bose profits. Cambridge Minx and Orb speakers are better choices for tiny speakers, although any tiny speaker is going to be a compromise on SQ over larger driver bookshelves in the same price range. Stay away from tiny satellite speakers; they are almost never a good choice unless one is very limited on size.

Bose Acoustimass setups have such a high crossover that male voices can sometimes seem to come out of the sub. Yuck! And the sub is nothing special compared to buying a good value sub to match with speakers.

If you can find some used (I believe that they have stopped production), Mirage OMD-5s will be far better for speakers that create a soundfield like the Bose cubes attempt to do.

If you really want a more room filling ambient sound effect, then you could just go with a 4.0 or 4.1 setup and use the DSP in a receiver to take 2 channel stereo and put it out over 4 speakers. That will sound better than a pair of Bose cubes, IMHO.
Edited by cel4145 - 6/20/14 at 9:31am
post #40 of 46

You may be better off buying some self-powered speakers like the AudioEngine A5+ or Aperion Bluetooth for $400 and use the analogue outputs from your uDac.  Depending on your room setup, perhaps you ditch the "computer speakers" and create a computer-based audio system with your new speakers, whatever they turn out to be.

post #41 of 46

By the way, I have a T-Amp that I used for a little while with a set of bookshelf speakers.  For the size and cost, it sounds OK.  Not as robust as a "real" amp, but my speakers were not very efficient.  If you want to go that route, PM me and I'll send you photos if you might want to buy it cheap.  Would not be powerful enough for floor standing speakers.

post #42 of 46
Thread Starter 

I would like to thanks everyone for their advice! I'm going to look at every suggestion and do some more research on this topic. This thread has been extremely helpful. Feel free to comment or PM me on more stuff you guys recommend. I'm probably going to use this thread along with the advice of my audio and sterophillic older brother to come to a conclusion. If any of you guys are remotely interested, I'll tell you what I ended up buying (but it won't be for a while haha) 

post #43 of 46

I've owned many, and I mean many floor standers over the years. I still have a set of infinity beta 40's in my home theater room. That said I can tell you without a doubt that the best bang for the buck 'audiophile for the poor' setup would be the Hsu Research HB-1 MK2's. I've owned a Hsu sub for many years now and when I decided I wanted another hifi system just for stereo listening I read a review from Jeff Van Dyne from Home theater sound: http://www.hsuresearch.com/reviews/hometheaterSound.pdf

 

I was nearly sold. I then contacted Hsu Research and requested a demo. I was not in their listening room five minutes when I stated..."sold!"

 

I have owned these for a handful of years now and IMO they are end game for me. Breath taking in every way. BUT you need a sub to complement them. I use a Velodyne CT150 and I have the gain set pretty low.

 

I'm telling you...for the money; Hsu can't be beat; IMO of course. Dr. Hsu is well known for his subs but let me tell you...his little speakers speak volumes.

 

 

http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/hb-1.html


Edited by Amish - 6/22/14 at 5:58pm
post #44 of 46
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Originally Posted by Amish View Post
 

I've owned many, and I mean many floor standers over the years. I still have a set of infinity beta 40's in my home theater room. 

 

I scored my Infinity Beta 40s, 20s and a C360 when they were closing out the series, got the 5.0 setup for $850 (including shipping).

I like their sound, but part of me now want to upgrade to their Revel counter parts.

post #45 of 46
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Originally Posted by PurpleAngel View Post
 

 

I scored my Infinity Beta 40s, 20s and a C360 when they were closing out the series, got the 5.0 setup for $850 (including shipping).

I like their sound, but part of me now want to upgrade to their Revel counter parts.


I own the C360 as well. Great center to go with the 40's. For my home theater they work great. Revel looks like a nice upgrade for sure!

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