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post #16 of 46
If your needs are just background music, then a good pair of bookshelf speakers would cost you less but give you good sound. The main advantages of towers are (a) increased dynamics for louder volumes/filling bigger rooms) and (b) deeper bass extension. Since you don't seem especially concerned about deep bass, then there are ported speakers with larger drivers that can do quite well. Look to for at least 5" drivers in a ported speaker.

There are different generations of the Nexus 7, and usb audio out does not necessarily work well with all Android devices and/or all DACs and/or versions of Android. Since you already have the DAC and the tablet, get a USB OTG cable and try it out and see if your Nexus 7 will connect to your DAC.
post #17 of 46

ya...i think bookshelf spkrs is the way to start experimenting with home-fi :P

u can get quite spectacular sound for light jazz, vocals...chilling out music out of a small space..

n it wont cost u a bomb. 

 

a small cd player...and this cute tiny thang...n a pair of spkrs..chillout manzz

http://www.tonepublications.com/review/miniwatts-latest-the-n3/


Edited by Lorspeaker - 6/19/14 at 9:28am
post #18 of 46
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Originally Posted by coolcucumber91 View Post
 

1) Not really. I want to use it for more of background music/ study music. Ambient music I guess. Not for party use haha. If I want to blast my music, I would use my headphones

2) I do listen to a little EDM and some pop music. Not much rap/ hip-hop. I do listen to are rock, classical, and jazz. I wouldn't want a lot of bass at all. Clarity, soundstage, and how "crisp" it is is are my priorities

 

 

It is a Nexus 7, so although it connects to USB, it does not have a USB port in itself. Is there some other way to connect it to a speaker amp? Or would I have to use a different component other than an amp to connect to my tablet via headphones?

 

 

I do agree with your statement about subjectivity. I probably will have to buy really entry level speakers for now, and save up in the future for better ones in like a decade or so. I am sure I would still greatly enjoy entry-level speakers.

 

So what would you recommend, receiver or amp? And I'm guessing my tablet would have to connect to either of those...

 

The product you have should work on my Nexus, since it works for your S4 since they use the same connection (mini USB --> USB). Still a bit confused on how that works, but it should be tablet > USB converter/ dac > receiver or amp > speakers, correct?

 

 

Thanks for your patience and replies guys! It's been helpful. Sorry if this is frustrating to you guys haha

 

If you just want background music a less powerful t-amp would be best http://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-DTA-120-Digital-Amplifier/dp/B00HFG3FYA/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1403195333&sr=8-6&keywords=t-amp , I wouldn't buy really entry level speakers because the crossovers tend to be complete crap.

 

It should work since your nexus is android 4.4 as well , get the usb otg cable and try your udac first.

 

with your udac you can go tablet > udac > amp >speakers.

 

I have these budget floor standers http://www.magnat.de/en/detail/index/sArticle/45 , they sound way better than there price suggests.

post #19 of 46
Thread Starter 

Awesome thanks guys! So is the general consensus is to get bookshelf speakers over floorstanding? Keep in mind although I want ambient music, I would also want it to be decently loud sometimes too when I am chilling and focusing on the music. But never party-make-every-room-hear-it loud

post #20 of 46
U hv a Udac? Ok good, a cheap T-amp..n a pair of bookshelf spkrs..u r ready to chill on the cheap wink.gif
post #21 of 46

I think floor standers are much better they can fill a room with sound much better than bookshelf's and there much larger cabinets means better bass extension.

post #22 of 46

+1 on bookshelf speakers.

 

KEF X300A could be a good option... (no ext. amp req.)

 

otherwise you can get some pretty decent second-hand speakers for your budget at Audiogon.

 

Totem's, Vandersteen's, Ascend's, Focal's, GoldenEar's, Audioengine's, and more.. all in the 500-700$ range.

 

http://new.audiogon.com/listings?page=1&no_listing_types_auctions=false&no_listing_types_classifieds=false&items_per_page=50&order_by=created_at%20DESC&location_filter_radius=25&from_price=500&to_price=700&filter_category_id[]=9&min_condition=1&max_condition=11&listing_types_auctions=1&listing_types_classifieds=1

post #23 of 46

A fantastic bargain for very good speakers and integrated amp is the Pioneer SP-FS52 speakers at $260 for the pair along with the Pioneer N-50 at $699. These units were designed by my friend Andrew Jones who is the chief engineer for TAD. The TAD speakers range in price from $30K to $90K and a lot of the concepts from TAD trickled down to the entry level Pioneer speakers. I think these items can be purchased at Best Buy and may even be on sale at some point. Don't be fooled by the relatively low price of these speakers as they really are very good.

post #24 of 46

I've have had many pairs of great speakers both bookshelf and floor standing. If you can find a pair used, the Monitor Audio RS6 is an excellent speaker with a relatively small footprint and superb sound. It is easy to drive and gets great reviews. I've had everything from PSB Stratus to NHT Zero's and the RS6 is a keeper! Good luck and whatever you end up getting spend some time positioning the speaker it really makes a huge impact. 

post #25 of 46
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Originally Posted by coolcucumber91 View Post
 

Awesome thanks guys! So is the general consensus is to get bookshelf speakers over floorstanding? Keep in mind although I want ambient music, I would also want it to be decently loud sometimes too when I am chilling and focusing on the music. But never party-make-every-room-hear-it loud

 

With self-powered speakers (studio monitors) you have no need to buy a separate amplifier.

Monoprice 8-inch Powered Studio Monitor Speakers, $255 for the pair

http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=115&cp_id=11504&cs_id=1150401&p_id=605800&seq=1&format=2

 

Chances are a good DAP (Digital audio Player) will offer better audio quality then your Nexus 7.

A FiiO X3 ($200) or iBasso DX50 ($230) DAP

Maybe the FiiO X5, $350

you can always plug headphones straight into the DAP.

 

 

You will have spend well under the $900 budget,

maybe even spend less then $500 for audio.

post #26 of 46

According to this thread http://www.head-fi.org/t/634048/google-nexus-4/60 , the nexus has a really high output impendance this will really mess up the frequency responce and increase disortion, a cheaper option is a portable battery powered dac like http://www.amazon.com/iFi-Headphone-384kHz-iPhone-Android/dp/B00HI8WXVG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1403214539&sr=8-1&keywords=ifi+nano also gives you a stereo rca line out for your speaker set-up.

post #27 of 46
post #28 of 46
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Originally Posted by coolcucumber91 View Post

Awesome thanks guys! So is the general consensus is to get bookshelf speakers over floorstanding? Keep in mind although I want ambient music, I would also want it to be decently loud sometimes too when I am chilling and focusing on the music. But never party-make-every-room-hear-it loud

How big is your room? How far will you be sitting from the speakers when you want to turn it up?
post #29 of 46
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by JRG1990 View Post
 

I think floor standers are much better they can fill a room with sound much better than bookshelf's and there much larger cabinets means better bass extension.

Although most likely my room/ apartment will be small, the bass extension sounds nice. Can you recommend any that's under 500? Keep in mind I'm no stereophile but I do appreciate clear sound

 

 

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Originally Posted by Lenni View Post
 

+1 on bookshelf speakers.

 

KEF X300A could be a good option... (no ext. amp req.)

 

otherwise you can get some pretty decent second-hand speakers for your budget at Audiogon.

 

Totem's, Vandersteen's, Ascend's, Focal's, GoldenEar's, Audioengine's, and more.. all in the 500-700$ range.

 

http://new.audiogon.com/listings?page=1&no_listing_types_auctions=false&no_listing_types_classifieds=false&items_per_page=50&order_by=created_at%20DESC&location_filter_radius=25&from_price=500&to_price=700&filter_category_id[]=9&min_condition=1&max_condition=11&listing_types_auctions=1&listing_types_classifieds=1

What would be the pros of getting bookshelf over floorstanding? I do think that would be definitely a practical option bc they are easy to carry around. Also, I looked at the KEF X300A, but I noticed they are used for computer use... although I know bookshelf speakers can be used as computer speakers, aren't they different? Is there a difference? I'm guessing some computer speakers such as a 2.1 system wouldn't make good bookshelf speakers for music only since the subwoofer is separate? 

 

Also, is there a downside of having an amp integrated in the speakers vs. a separate amp?

 

 

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Originally Posted by alexsv View Post
 

A fantastic bargain for very good speakers and integrated amp is the Pioneer SP-FS52 speakers at $260 for the pair along with the Pioneer N-50 at $699. These units were designed by my friend Andrew Jones who is the chief engineer for TAD. The TAD speakers range in price from $30K to $90K and a lot of the concepts from TAD trickled down to the entry level Pioneer speakers. I think these items can be purchased at Best Buy and may even be on sale at some point. Don't be fooled by the relatively low price of these speakers as they really are very good.

 

Same question as above, is there a downside of having an integrated amp? Speakers look real nice though.. I plan to use my tablet though. I'm supposed to plug it into an amp, but since it's integrated, I'll have to plug it in to the speakers themselves?

 

 

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Originally Posted by PurpleAngel View Post
 

 

With self-powered speakers (studio monitors) you have no need to buy a separate amplifier.

Monoprice 8-inch Powered Studio Monitor Speakers, $255 for the pair

http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=115&cp_id=11504&cs_id=1150401&p_id=605800&seq=1&format=2

 

Chances are a good DAP (Digital audio Player) will offer better audio quality then your Nexus 7.

A FiiO X3 ($200) or iBasso DX50 ($230) DAP

Maybe the FiiO X5, $350

you can always plug headphones straight into the DAP.

 

 

You will have spend well under the $900 budget,

maybe even spend less then $500 for audio.

See, I was planning to use an app that streams music for background music, which is why I want to use my Nexus 7. Although it isn't the best audio source, the app itself is nice, versatile, and streams decent quality music (256 kbs, check out Songza). The Monoprice looks real nice, and spending under 500 would be great haha. Once I make money, I plan to get really nice speakers. My dad has a set that is >$10,000 lol. But I am a poor college graduate right now

 

 

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Originally Posted by JRG1990 View Post
 

According to this thread http://www.head-fi.org/t/634048/google-nexus-4/60 , the nexus has a really high output impendance this will really mess up the frequency responce and increase disortion, a cheaper option is a portable battery powered dac like http://www.amazon.com/iFi-Headphone-384kHz-iPhone-Android/dp/B00HI8WXVG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1403214539&sr=8-1&keywords=ifi+nano also gives you a stereo rca line out for your speaker set-up.

I have a DAC though, couldn't I use that instead? Not sure what a stereo rca line out is but the it has a headphone jack, usb, coaxial, and a left (white) and right (red)

 

 

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Originally Posted by Lorspeaker View Post
 

http://www.amazon.com/SMSL-Stereo-Amplifier-output-quality/dp/B009B6CZ2A

a small T-amp...less than 100bucks. 

So are T-amps good? Will definitely look at the options you have suggested

 

 

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Originally Posted by cel4145 View Post


How big is your room? How far will you be sitting from the speakers when you want to turn it up?

I do not know to be honest. But most likely it will be either a small apartment living room or tiny bedroom. I wouldn't be sitting next to them but maybe a couple feet away (most likely be studying or relaxing). Sorry I'm vague but I haven't got my own place yet, but definitely it'll most likely be a cheap studio apartment or a small 2 bedroom place with a roommate

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Thanks for your patience guys!

post #30 of 46
Thread Starter 

Also, now that I think about it, I can use my Macbook as another option for a music source

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