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Review: Sensaphonics Custom Sleeves in Crystal Blue for the Shure SE846
May 6, 2015 at 7:29 PM Post #241 of 436
"I know you just don't want to show pictures of the wires because it probably looks...interesting - let alone, show any pictures of the SCS (currently) as I wanted you to post in a previous request. 
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  Just kidding...no worries though."
 
Nah, just figured it was pretty easy to simply turn the wire around, no need for pics.  
 

 
May 6, 2015 at 7:36 PM Post #242 of 436
olddude said:
"I know you just don't want to show pictures of the wires because it probably looks...interesting - let alone, show any pictures of the SCS (currently) as I wanted you to post in a previous request. :bigsmile_face:   Just kidding...no worries though."

Nah, just figured it was pretty easy to simply turn the wire around, no need for pics.  
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Thanks a lot for the pic! Definitely makes it easier for readers to see how it looks. Have you tried working out with the SCS this way (mainly running) and have you noticed any differences regarding possible SCS/housing movement?
 
May 7, 2015 at 9:48 AM Post #243 of 436
Olddude doesn't run (anymore).  But he walks very very quickly for two miles daily outside on streets and this cable implementation really cuts down on microphonic from glasses rubbing against cable housings.   The sleeves aren't going anywhere, they stay where they are supposed to be with absolutely no effort or resetting to get them back in place.  I can't say how this would work if a person was jumping around a lot, but for brisk walking, no problem.
 
The reason I tried it was that I was making the loops bigger so that they wouldn't rub on my glasses, and they clearly weren't being used to keep the iems in place, as they were not touching my ears.  So, why not just swing them around.  Tried it, liked it, posted it.  Even without the cinch they work well, with the cinch up against the chin the cables don't go anywhere.  
 
Works for me.  Of course, I'm also the guy using the 846 with no filters, so maybe I'm just weird.  
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May 7, 2015 at 10:06 AM Post #244 of 436
olddude said:
Works for me.  Of course, I'm also the guy using the 846 with no filters, so maybe I'm just weird.  
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Reports of any change to sound adding sleeves, seemed to say a touch of warmth. So I guess filterless brings you to a similar balance as modded blues? But with a better fit giving perhaps more consistent bass.
 
May 7, 2015 at 10:20 AM Post #245 of 436
Filterless is NOT like modded blues.  I did it to gain treble extension (which it does), at a very slight cost to the lush mids (which are still very very good) and, to me, a bit more defined bass.  This is with Sensaphonics and a Pono.  
 
May 14, 2015 at 6:41 PM Post #246 of 436
I got my sleeves recently, and even had Claudia show me how to insert and remove them.  They are very comfortable, and "sound" great, though I did switch from the blue to the white filters to offset a bit of a shift in tonal balance not suited to an old-fart....
 
I am extremely happy, but am finding that when I walk quickly (for me, for most of you young'uns it is probably not that quick 
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 ) I "hear" every footfall I make, especially if I land hard, heel-first.  It's not the cable, as far as I can tell, since it still does it even when I hold the two cables, one to each earpiece.  It's not the Calyx M in my pocket, as it still does it when I hold it in my hand.....  If I press on the right earpiece with my fingertip, it pretty much goes away....
 
any thoughts?  Am I not inserting them correctly?  Or is it just that my assertive man-gait is too powerful for normal silicone sleeves to resist?   
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Thanks for your input
 
May 14, 2015 at 6:55 PM Post #247 of 436
fzman said:
  I got my sleeves recently, and even had Claudia show me how to insert and remove them.  They are very comfortable, and "sound" great, though I did switch from the blue to the white filters to offset a bit of a shift in tonal balance not suited to an old-fart....
 
I am extremely happy, but am finding that when I walk quickly (for me, for most of you young'uns it is probably not that quick 
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 ) I "hear" every footfall I make, especially if I land hard, heel-first.  It's not the cable, as far as I can tell, since it still does it even when I hold the two cables, one to each earpiece.  It's not the Calyx M in my pocket, as it still does it when I hold it in my hand.....  If I press on the right earpiece with my fingertip, it pretty much goes away....
 
any thoughts?  Am I not inserting them correctly?  Or is it just that my assertive man-gait is too powerful for normal silicone sleeves to resist?   
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Thanks for your input
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I walk a lot with the se846 in my ears, and I also hear the steps. I have read about it (it's called something, but I don't remember what
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), and it occurs when you get a good fit with your iems. (it's kinda like the way you hear your heart beat when you get a good seal) 
 
A way to solve it is either to walk different (this helps a lot if you get it right) or try out different shoes. Here in Norway it's a lot of snow in the winter so I use winter-boots. With them I hear the steps a lot louder than with normal running shoes
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 So it should not have anything to do with how you insert them, just consider trying the things i mentioned
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May 14, 2015 at 7:13 PM Post #248 of 436
I hear more footfalls with my Vibram barefoot shoes than with my Timberland walking shoes.  Turn the sound up, it'll go away.  
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May 14, 2015 at 10:44 PM Post #249 of 436
I just bought two pairs of New Balance and my legs are feeling better even after tripling my weekly number of steps.  I also have a pair of Noble K10 customs on order and they are acrylic shelled, and I am hoping they do not have this footfall thing as well, given that they are big $$.
 
May 20, 2015 at 11:47 PM Post #250 of 436
fzman said:
  They are very comfortable, and "sound" great, though I did switch from the blue to the white filters to offset a bit of a shift in tonal balance not suited to an old-fart....
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Did the same thing - these things seal so well, the white filters pack plenty of bass punch.  The sleeves are a great product and I've used them consistently for a few months now
 
May 22, 2015 at 2:19 AM Post #252 of 436
fzman said:
  I got my sleeves recently, and even had Claudia show me how to insert and remove them.  They are very comfortable, and "sound" great, though I did switch from the blue to the white filters to offset a bit of a shift in tonal balance not suited to an old-fart....
 
I am extremely happy, but am finding that when I walk quickly (for me, for most of you young'uns it is probably not that quick 
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 ) I "hear" every footfall I make, especially if I land hard, heel-first.  It's not the cable, as far as I can tell, since it still does it even when I hold the two cables, one to each earpiece.  It's not the Calyx M in my pocket, as it still does it when I hold it in my hand.....  If I press on the right earpiece with my fingertip, it pretty much goes away....
 
any thoughts?  Am I not inserting them correctly?  Or is it just that my assertive man-gait is too powerful for normal silicone sleeves to resist?   
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Thanks for your input
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fredrik23 said:
 
I walk a lot with the se846 in my ears, and I also hear the steps. I have read about it (it's called something, but I don't remember what
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), and it occurs when you get a good fit with your iems. (it's kinda like the way you hear your heart beat when you get a good seal) 
 
A way to solve it is either to walk different (this helps a lot if you get it right) or try out different shoes. Here in Norway it's a lot of snow in the winter so I use winter-boots. With them I hear the steps a lot louder than with normal running shoes
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 So it should not have anything to do with how you insert them, just consider trying the things i mentioned
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I contacted Claudia regarding footfall/footsteps sensation and she said "Basically since he (fzman) has turned his world down he has become more aware of the sounds his body makes. Everybody can hear their steps when they are walking; unless they are deaf. We are going to add a little extra lacquer on the canal portions of the sleeves cause he feels when he pushes on them it lessens the hearing footsteps sensation. It's not a bad thing or freaky and unusual it's just how humans are built."
 
Wearing the SCS may introduce sensations for certain people that may not have been accustomed to such sensations with sizes-fit-all tips, such as an elevated footfall/footsteps sensation because of the increased seal and isolation that the SCS provides.  I can tell the SCS really does it's job is when I am running at night, and based on the particular song that is playing I may feel that someone is running right behind me or to the side of me.  It can be slightly scary, but the SCS makes it so outside sounds are an afterthought and inside sounds are profound and blissful.
 
May 22, 2015 at 11:59 AM Post #253 of 436
That foot step sound happens with all iem's with good isolation. I get that with my customs and when I had isolating iem's such as an Etymotic I would get that. There's not much you can do about it
 
May 22, 2015 at 12:59 PM Post #254 of 436
rawrster said:
  That foot step sound happens with all iem's with good isolation. I get that with my customs and when I had isolating iem's such as an Etymotic I would get that. There's not much you can do about it
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Bummer, and I suppose a hovercraft would mitigate the exersize benefits from walking!  
 
May 22, 2015 at 1:03 PM Post #255 of 436
fzman said:
   
Bummer, and I suppose a hovercraft would mitigate the exersize benefits from walking!  
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Even better when the hovercraft is utilized while playing golf:
 

 
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