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post #1 of 16
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what should i get for my home office?
what will i use it for? music (want bass heavy), movies, everyday stuff
what did i have before? Logitech z5500, it was awesome. i feel like i didn't take advantage of the full 5.1 though and used it more for a 2.1

 

i don't know if i should stay with a pair of logitech computer speakers or go with some studio monitors, what is the main difference? budget is $400

post #2 of 16

The Logitech speakers are more designed for computer use with gaming and movies in mind while studio monitors are used for mixing and accuracy.. I'd say there's no real reason to get studio monitors in your case. I'd just go with the Logitech speakers if you want something you're familiar with. I've tried a few speaker systems, though not many. Right now I am using the Centrance 2504 Masterclass speakers, but you probably want something that is just plug and play, so I'd recommend some Audioengine A5+ (or A2+ if you have limited space on your desktop) speakers. They don't come with a sub, but most people find they perform really well with one. I liked the Swan M50 W as well. Those would fit your budget. if I'm recalling correctly, I think I paid around $400 for mine. They come with 2 small monitors and a 6 inch sub and they sound pretty great. I also tried some Soundsticks III from Harman Kardon. They were pretty good too, came with a sub and played really well.. until someone spilled soda into the subs port.. :/

Anyways, Audioengine gets my vote. 

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Originally Posted by unknown00 View Post
 

what should i get for my home office?
what will i use it for? music (want bass heavy), movies, everyday stuff
what did i have before? Logitech Z5500, it was awesome. i feel like i didn't take advantage of the full 5.1 though and used it more for a 2.1

 

i don't know if i should stay with a pair of Logitech computer speakers or go with some studio monitors, what is the main difference? budget is $400

 

Getting an Asus Xonar DX or D1 sound card (used $60) should improve the audio quality of the Z5500s.

 

Or get Monoprice's 5" studio monitors (rebranded M-Audio BX5s), $170

http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=115&cp_id=11504&cs_id=1150401&p_id=605500&seq=1&format=2

(Xonar DX/D1 could be used with the studio monitors)

post #4 of 16
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thanks for the answers thus far. what is the main difference between a pair of studio monitors (Which are pretty expensive) and a normal highend computer speaker?

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thanks for the answers thus far. what is the main difference between a pair of studio monitors (Which are pretty expensive) and a normal highend computer speaker?

Computer speakers add flavor\color to your sound (i.e. accentuated bass= flavor/color=more "fun" sound),  whereas a studio monitor tries to accurately reproduce sound as it was recorded at the time of recording. For movies and gaming, I prefer computer/Hifi speakers over studio monitors.

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Computer speakers add flavor\color to your sound (i.e. accentuated bass= flavor/color=more "fun" sound),  whereas a studio monitor tries to accurately reproduce sound as it was recorded at the time of recording. For movies and gaming, I prefer computer/Hifi speakers over studio monitors.


sounds like i should get computer/hifi speakers then...how is the bass in the Audioengine A5+?


Edited by unknown00 - 6/14/14 at 1:52pm
post #7 of 16

The bass on them is great. Everything about the A5+ is pretty good. While they don't come with a sub, in my opinion they honestly don't need one in most cases. If you want some speakers that DO come with a sub, I can recommend the Swan M50 W. They actually go for $300, not $400 like I thought. You can buy them here: http://www.chanemusiccinema.com/M50W

post #8 of 16
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thanks for the answers thus far. what is the main difference between a pair of studio monitors (Which are pretty expensive) and a normal high end computer speaker?

 

Studio monitors are for accurately playing back the music for professionals who are willing to pay for accurate sound. 

Computer speakers are are for those who have no idea what quality music really sounds like and will not spend the cash for quality audio play back

and think a sub-woofer that makes the walls shake is really cool.

A quality pair of Studio monitors will include 4 separate built in amplifiers.

A 5.1 computer speaker setup may only come with one amplifier stuffed inside the sub-woofer that has to drive all 6 channels.

post #9 of 16
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Studio monitors are for accurately playing back the music for professionals who are willing to pay for accurate sound. 

Computer speakers are are for those who have no idea what quality music really sounds like and will not spend the cash for quality audio play back

and think a sub-woofer that makes the walls shake is really cool.

A quality pair of Studio monitors will include 4 separate built in amplifiers.

A 5.1 computer speaker setup may only come with one amplifier stuffed inside the sub-woofer that has to drive all 6 channels.


Not all studio monitors are accurate, in fact some are quite inaccurate such as the Yamaha HS5 & HS50, Huge peak in response at 1KHz. KRK Rockits tend to have a midrange that is quite reduced compared to the bass & treble. The Yamaha HS8's are quite neutral though. You have to look not only at the typical brand sound character but also the different models in order to find accurate sound. Some models even within given model range sound quite different from each other such as what I just shown with Yamaha's HS series.

 

Also a 5.1 speaker set will have 6 separate amps, one for each speaker, they are just housed in the sub typically though all these amps typically are run from the same power supply just as the 2 amps inside each studio monitor, yes, I have studio monitors & that is how they are setup. So you see now there is not just one amp powering everything though there is commonly just one or sometimes two power supplies, one for the bass & one for all the main speakers. Subs typically need more power which is why they usually get a separate power supply if the speaker is actually worth anything that is.


Edited by germanium - 6/14/14 at 7:40pm
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Not all studio monitors are accurate, in fact some are quite inaccurate such as the Yamaha HS5 & HS50, Huge peak in response at 1KHz. KRK Rockits tend to have a midrange that is quite reduced compared to the bass & treble. The Yamaha HS8's are quite neutral though. You have to look not only at the typical brand sound character but also the different models in order to find accurate sound. Some models even within given model range sound quite different from each other such as what I just shown with Yamaha's HS series.

 

Also a 5.1 speaker set will have 6 separate amps, one for each speaker, they are just housed in the sub typically though all these amps typically are run from the same power supply just as the 2 amps inside each studio monitor, yes, I have studio monitors & that is how they are setup. So you see now there is not just one amp powering everything though there is commonly just one or sometimes two power supplies, one for the bass & one for all the main speakers. Subs typically need more power which is why they usually get a separate power supply if the speaker is actually worth anything that is.

 

Could you not tell from my first few sentences I was totally BSing.?

post #11 of 16
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Computer speakers are are for those who have no idea what quality music really sounds like and will not spend the cash for quality audio play back

That cracked me up, because there are so many computer multimedia speakers that are pretty crappy for the price smily_headphones1.gif

If you want deep bass extension and a lot of heavy bass output, then a subwoofer is the way to go. Just posted about the following in another thread

* Newegg has the Pioneer Andrew Jones BS21 speakers for $49/pair, $1.99 shipping.
* Denon AVR-1513 for $109 + shipping, factory refurbished, factory warrantied. Hook your computer to it using either optical or HDMI.
* BIC F12 subwoofer.
post #12 of 16
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That cracked me up, because there are so many computer multimedia speakers that are pretty crappy for the price smily_headphones1.gif

If you want deep bass extension and a lot of heavy bass output, then a subwoofer is the way to go. Just posted about the following in another thread

* Newegg has the Pioneer Andrew Jones BS21 speakers for $49/pair, $1.99 shipping.
* Denon AVR-1513 for $109 + shipping, factory refurbished, factory warrantied. Hook your computer to it using either optical or HDMI.
* BIC F12 subwoofer.

Sounds like a pretty decent setup, but if he didn't take advantage of the 5.1 he already had, I doubt he would for this either. He'd probably be fine with a simple 2.1 system that you can just plug n' play without any of the hassle of setting things up and testing connections and all that. I'm thinking of maybe doing the setup you're talking about though.. Sounds like a great bang for your buck 4.1 system. Just need to get together some funds myself. :tongue_smile: 

post #13 of 16
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He'd probably be fine with a simple 2.1 system that you can just plug n' play without any of the hassle of setting things up and testing connections and all that. I'm thinking of maybe doing the setup you're talking about though.. Sounds like a great bang for your buck 4.1 system. Just need to get together some funds myself. tongue_smile.gif  

1) I wasn't suggesting that he buy four speakers. Just one pair.
2) The reason for a receiver is the bass management, as well as flexibility for possible upgrade paths.
3) "Hassle?" You must be new to hooking speakers and sub up to a receiver. It's not rocket science, and it only has one more cable to connect than the Swan M50W you recommended confused.gif
post #14 of 16
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1) I wasn't suggesting that he buy four speakers. Just one pair.
2) The reason for a receiver is the bass management, as well as flexibility for possible upgrade paths.
3) "Hassle?" You must be new to hooking speakers and sub up to a receiver. It's not rocket science, and it only has one more cable to connect than the Swan M50W you recommended confused.gif

Haha. Sorry, I re-read what you said. I'm a little tired (12:30 AM here) so I kinda read what you said without really reading it. I need to just take myself to bed. I understand the reason for suggesting the receiver, but I am relatively new to using speakers with a receiver, so you are kinda right. Most speakers before I joined up here have been ones you just take outta the box, plug into the 3.5 output and play. Since then I've had some Soundstick 3s, Swan M50 Ws, Audioengine A2 and A5+, and now my Centrance 2504 Masterclass speakers and Audioengine n22 amp. That's why the Audioengine speakers were my first suggestion, before the Swans; Because they were the simplest setup with good sound that I have tried personally. Also, compared to 1 connection plug n' play speakers, all these others could be considered a hassle. Lol

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Haha. Sorry, I re-read what you said. I'm a little tired (12:30 AM here) so I kinda read what you said without really reading it. I need to just take myself to bed. I understand the reason for suggesting the receiver, but I am relatively new to using speakers with a receiver, so you are kinda right. Most speakers before I joined up here have been ones you just take outta the box, plug into the 3.5 output and play. Since then I've had some Soundstick 3s, Swan M50 Ws, Audioengine A2 and A5+, and now my Centrance 2504 Masterclass speakers and Audioengine n22 amp. That's why the Audioengine speakers were my first suggestion, before the Swans; Because they were the simplest setup with good sound that I have tried personally. Also, compared to 1 connection plug n' play speakers, all these others could be considered a hassle. Lol

Receivers all come with manuals that show how to hook up different devices and how to hook up speakers and subs. For example. And I always laugh when someone describes them as a hassle to hook up as I got my first receiver, speakers, and a turntable during high school back before there were no YouTube and discussion forums to get help if one needed it. And no heavily-detailed manual either. smily_headphones1.gif
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