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post #706 of 6654
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Originally Posted by Focker View Post
 

I think it's time for an official "Pointless Grado Discussions and Conspiracy Theories" thread. 


haha, indeed :D

 

Some serious overthinking going on in here ...


Edited by sinnottj - 7/6/14 at 1:24am
post #707 of 6654
It seems like several of the last few posts did not read or understand the statement quoted from my conversation with John Grado of yesterday stating that all the plugs are being manufactured using a different plating process to improve conductivity, this is really the crux of the plug situation and not John's decision of which model gets which size plug termination. This aspect was a decision to further improve performance across the whole line of new product,
The rest of this train of discussion once again seems to be a case of much ado about nothing.

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I contacted and spoke with John Grado in regard to the headphone termination question and it is not really as simple an answer as 1/8"opposed to 1/4" termination, actual manufacturing of both size plugs has been upgraded in all the new e series phones.

The formula for plating the plug was reconfigured to optimize signal transfer and hence helping deliver an un-obstructed signal in the path to the driver. This improvement has been applied to both size terminations as mentioned above.

In my opinion I would think the decision to use 1/8" on the majority of the models is really just an acceptance and realization that there is a majority of headphones that will be used with portable and/or smaller chassis devices.  When I was at the Fall NYC Head fi meet my main source at my display table was an AK100, a perfect example of this trend.

Add to this that due to their efficiency and sensitivity all Grados are capable of being driven directly from a portable device without the need of a dedicated headphone amp.  Of course the best results would still be using a quality amp  that would be a proper match to the Grados to get the utmost performance out of them.  That ability to be driven with out a super amp is another performance feature that separates the Grado line from much of the competition out there.

After hearing the performance differences that John has obtained in the new series it just continues to show his dedication to evolving and improving his product line instead of just sitting on an already hugely successful series and leaving things as they are.

I for one applaud his dedication and resolve.  It is based on a long standing tradition at Grado, it is great to see in this modern age of hype and celebrity tie ins and endorsements based on nothing more than a business decision to sell more product it is refreshing to see someone with John's abilities and work ethnic pursuing what he feels is better and will please more potential buyers of his excellent products.

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Edited by ESL-1 - 7/6/14 at 1:43am
post #708 of 6654

Well I'd love to see any kind of measurements showing that 1/8" gives a "clearer tone" than 1/4". Guess I'll be waiting a long time for that one :D

post #709 of 6654
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Originally Posted by swspiers View Post


My 225i's do okay, but the Alpha Dogs dominate in my collection. Can't wait to hear the GS1Ke's with Crimson!


Alpha Dogs is also American made but with Fostex Driver Technology isn´t it? I have never heared of this brand in Europe. I guess, the the 225i do extremely well on the mid and treble section of LTiA, but the John Wetton´s bass might not be so good defined,right? According to many here the GS500i would do great, but then we are talking about a headphone which almost cost 3 times the Price of the 225i, at least in Europe.

post #710 of 6654

http://www.head-fi.org/t/725729/grado-ps500e

 

And so it starts, earlier than I thought :D Now to wait for a pair of RS1e or 325e...

post #711 of 6654
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Originally Posted by Focker View Post

I think it's time for an official "Pointless Grado Discussions and Conspiracy Theories" thread. 

Head-Fi.org is a discussion forum, right?

This thread is titled "Grado e Series", right?

The article at the link (http://headfonics.com/2014/06/grado-goes-e-an-interview-with-jonathan-grado/) is entitled "Grado goes “e” – An Interview with Jonathan Grado", right?

In the article, some reasons for some of the things that are new about the e series are given, right?

Where else should this be discussed and talked about?
post #712 of 6654
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Originally Posted by JES View Post


Head-Fi.org is a discussion forum, right?

This thread is titled "Grado e Series", right?

The article at the link (http://headfonics.com/2014/06/grado-goes-e-an-interview-with-jonathan-grado/) is entitled "Grado goes “e” – An Interview with Jonathan Grado", right?

In the article, some reasons for some of the things that are new about the e series are given, right?

Where else should this be discussed and talked about?


Fully agree Jes, in the German Magazine " Stereo" the GS1000 e was reviewed and did get a staggering 97 Points on 100, colse to perfection, but this is of course all relative, fact is, the HiFi press in General adores Grado.

post #713 of 6654
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Originally Posted by JES View Post

Head-Fi.org is a discussion forum, right?

This thread is titled "Grado e Series", right?

The article at the link (http://headfonics.com/2014/06/grado-goes-e-an-interview-with-jonathan-grado/) is entitled "Grado goes “e” – An Interview with Jonathan Grado", right?

In the article, some reasons for some of the things that are new about the e series are given, right?

Where else should this be discussed and talked about?
How long are we going to discuss "jacks and tone"?
Seems to me that the issue has been discussed and settled
I asked this before concerning another topic. Im asking again , can we move on now ?
post #714 of 6654
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Originally Posted by jaywillin View Post

How long are we going to discuss "jacks and tone"?
Seems to me that the issue has been discussed and settled
I asked this before concerning another topic. Im asking again , can we move on now ?
How long? Until people are finished discussing it or a Moderator puts an end to it. Preferably the former.

Can we move on? Sure. In the article Jonathan Grado mentions that the height of the adjusting rod affects the sound. Anybody have any ideas why this is?
post #715 of 6654
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Originally Posted by JES View Post


How long? Until people are finished discussing it or a Moderator puts an end to it. Preferably the former.

Can we move on? Sure. In the article Jonathan Grado mentions that the height of the adjusting rod affects the sound. Anybody have any ideas why this is?

 

Because the driver placement on your ear is going to change would be my guess.

post #716 of 6654
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Originally Posted by jaywillin View Post


How long are we going to discuss "jacks and tone"?
Seems to me that the issue has been discussed and settled
I asked this before concerning another topic. Im asking again , can we move on now ?

Amen, brother...

 

And hey, it's already almost 730am...where is the first Jaywillin music post of the day?? :)

post #717 of 6654

Yeah jay......get some coffee and let's get going.   :smile:

post #718 of 6654
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Originally Posted by Focker View Post
 

Amen, brother...

 

And hey, it's already almost 730am...where is the first Jaywillin music post of the day?? :)

just got up, its 6:30am here, and sunday, i slept a little late, i'll have one soon

 

i post them on the grado fan thread, more music, less debate there

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Guess I'd better be careful to not get pulled over by the self-appointed post police.
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Because the driver placement on your ear is going to change would be my guess.

Yeah, this makes sense to me as far as how one adjust the drivers to their ears. But is it possible that an overall shorter or longer rod would noticeably affect sound, regardless of how someone adjusts the drivers to their ears?
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