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post #6091 of 6370
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Originally Posted by neophytical View Post
 


I phoned him as soon as I discovered it.  His solution:  He changed his copy of the invoice to show the discontinued model!  The owner of the store is supposed to call me but I think a follow-up email would be a good idea.

 

Yep, just to reiterate - an email "conversation" describing the event is strong protection for you

in case there's ever any confusion about what occurred.

 

If it was a doughnut, it wouldn't be worth the bother.

But $500. or so headphones - definitely worth a few minutes on the computer (or phone, whatever).

post #6092 of 6370
Break in time on the store demo could definitely account for a good bit of difference as previously stated. To my knowledge and I would be glad to confirm that no e series were shipped with a 1/4" plug. Having owned the original PS500 and now have the e series version which I find to be the better of the two as I have mentioned in a few posts earlier in the thread. I find the bass better defined on the e and both the mids and highs a bit smoother and more refined to my ear. Before the official introduction of the e series the last few months of shipped production were e's in disguise as John Grado did not want any buyers in that period to end up with the older model with e series about to be released. A great marketing idea in my opinion that was meant to make those buyers happy to find that they really got the new model.

Back to your situation I would insist that the dealer give you a properly marked e series since that is what you listened to and was in his store to buy once you made the decision. There should be no question that it would be the only right thing to do. Any flack from the dealer should then have you reach out to the Grado sales rep or distributor in your area.

Lastly being of the group that believes in break in time I found that both PS500 variants started to sound better and more coherent as they hit 50 hours and were nicely settled in as 100 hours were logged.

They are very good phones, especially for the price, enjoy the final results.

smily_headphones1.gif
post #6093 of 6370
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Originally Posted by ESL-1 View Post

Break in time on the store demo could definitely account for a good bit of difference as previously stated. To my knowledge and I would be glad to confirm that no e series were shipped with a 1/4" plug. Having owned the original PS500 and now have the e series version which I find to be the better of the two as I have mentioned in a few posts earlier in the thread. I find the bass better defined on the e and both the mids and highs a bit smoother and more refined to my ear. Before the official introduction of the e series the last few months of shipped production were e's in disguise as John Grado did not want any buyers in that period to end up with the older model with e series about to be released. A great marketing idea in my opinion that was meant to make those buyers happy to find that they really got the new model.

Back to your situation I would insist that the dealer give you a properly marked e series since that is what you listened to and was in his store to buy once you made the decision. There should be no question that it would be the only right thing to do. Any flack from the dealer should then have you reach out to the Grado sales rep or distributor in your area.

Lastly being of the group that believes in break in time I found that both PS500 variants started to sound better and more coherent as they hit 50 hours and were nicely settled in as 100 hours were logged.

They are very good phones, especially for the price, enjoy the final results.

smily_headphones1.gif

Thank you. 

Also, I believe he received the PS-500 which is what he listened to in the store…his receipt says PS-500e, but he has already checked to see if he had the transition period (e) series "red drivers" and said their not. :smile:

:beerchug:

post #6094 of 6370
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Originally Posted by ESL-1 View Post

Break in time on the store demo could definitely account for a good bit of difference as previously stated. To my knowledge and I would be glad to confirm that no e series were shipped with a 1/4" plug. Having owned the original PS500 and now have the e series version which I find to be the better of the two as I have mentioned in a few posts earlier in the thread. I find the bass better defined on the e and both the mids and highs a bit smoother and more refined to my ear. Before the official introduction of the e series the last few months of shipped production were e's in disguise as John Grado did not want any buyers in that period to end up with the older model with e series about to be released. A great marketing idea in my opinion that was meant to make those buyers happy to find that they really got the new model.

Back to your situation I would insist that the dealer give you a properly marked e series since that is what you listened to and was in his store to buy once you made the decision. There should be no question that it would be the only right thing to do. Any flack from the dealer should then have you reach out to the Grado sales rep or distributor in your area.

Lastly being of the group that believes in break in time I found that both PS500 variants started to sound better and more coherent as they hit 50 hours and were nicely settled in as 100 hours were logged.

They are very good phones, especially for the price, enjoy the final results.

smily_headphones1.gif

A few days ago I saw a pre-loved MS2 that had 1/4 plug but shipped in e-series small boxes. Not sure if it was a mistake or the seller cheated or something (he was in another city so I didn't go check it out). 

 

Personally I prefer the original PS500, but if neophytical paid for the PS500e he definitely should receive the correct one, not the previous model.

post #6095 of 6370
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Originally Posted by lehoang15tuoi View Post
 

A few days ago I saw a pre-loved MS2 that had 1/4 plug but shipped in e-series small boxes. Not sure if it was a mistake or the seller cheated or something (he was in another city so I didn't go check it out). 

 

Personally I prefer the original PS500, but if neophytical paid for the PS500e he definitely should receive the correct one, not the previous model.

I believe the the price for the PS500 and PS500e is the same.  Yes?

 

Personally, I find the 500 to be a bit bass heavy, so I use the equalizer in iTunes to dial it back a bit.  What is it about the original 500 that you prefer to the e-version?

 

Thanks.

post #6096 of 6370
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Originally Posted by neophytical View Post

I believe the the price for the PS500 and PS500e is the same.  Yes?

Personally, I find the 500 to be a bit bass heavy, so I use the equalizer in iTunes to dial it back a bit.  What is it about the original 500 that you prefer to the e-version?

Thanks.
Yep as 2 different generations of the same product line they have the same price. Same goes for sr60i and sr60e etc.

The bass heavy part is what I prefer in the ps500. In comparison to the ps500e, the original is less balanced (the emphasis on bass seems more pronounced) and thus more "un-Grado" to me. It complemented my rs1i really well. Too bad due to financial reasons I no longer keep any.

Oh and as I remember, Grado later stopped painting their e-series drivers red, right? Apart from helping to differentiate the e-in-i Grados with the genuine i-series I think the paint serves no purpose on the e-series cans.
post #6097 of 6370
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Originally Posted by lehoang15tuoi View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by neophytical View Post

I believe the the price for the PS500 and PS500e is the same.  Yes?

Personally, I find the 500 to be a bit bass heavy, so I use the equalizer in iTunes to dial it back a bit.  What is it about the original 500 that you prefer to the e-version?

Thanks.
Yep as 2 different generations of the same product line they have the same price. Same goes for sr60i and sr60e etc.

The bass heavy part is what I prefer in the ps500. In comparison to the ps500e, the original is less balanced (the emphasis on bass seems more pronounced) and thus more "un-Grado" to me. It complemented my rs1i really well. Too bad due to financial reasons I no longer keep any.

Oh and as I remember, Grado later stopped painting their e-series drivers red, right? Apart from helping to differentiate the e-in-i Grados with the genuine i-series I think the paint serves no purpose on the e-series cans.

Yes the red paint serves as a pseudo acoustic resonant eliminator with special in house grado treatment.

YMMV.
post #6098 of 6370
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Originally Posted by lehoang15tuoi View Post


Yep as 2 different generations of the same product line they have the same price. Same goes for sr60i and sr60e etc.

The bass heavy part is what I prefer in the ps500. In comparison to the ps500e, the original is less balanced (the emphasis on bass seems more pronounced) and thus more "un-Grado" to me. It complemented my rs1i really well. Too bad due to financial reasons I no longer keep any.

Oh and as I remember, Grado later stopped painting their e-series drivers red, right? Apart from helping to differentiate the e-in-i Grados with the genuine i-series I think the paint serves no purpose on the e-series cans.

 

I'm not sure that's accurate based on information I've read.

May I ask where you saw (read, heard) that?

post #6099 of 6370
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Originally Posted by zazex View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by lehoang15tuoi View Post

Yep as 2 different generations of the same product line they have the same price. Same goes for sr60i and sr60e etc.


The bass heavy part is what I prefer in the ps500. In comparison to the ps500e, the original is less balanced (the emphasis on bass seems more pronounced) and thus more "un-Grado" to me. It complemented my rs1i really well. Too bad due to financial reasons I no longer keep any.


Oh and as I remember, Grado later stopped painting their e-series drivers red, right? Apart from helping to differentiate the e-in-i Grados with the genuine i-series I think the paint serves no purpose on the e-series cans.

I'm not sure that's accurate based on information I've read.
May I ask where you saw (read, heard) that?


The blob makes the difference not the red paint hehehe (please excuse my wry humor)
post #6100 of 6370

Well I did not read that from anywhere, I just thought the red paint was cosmetic... Plus it has been mentioned many times in this thread that the newer e-series don't have the red paint anymore.

 

My newly-bought (used) 325e don't have it. And from what I can remember from the other 325e that I've owned, the sound is identical.

post #6101 of 6370
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Originally Posted by lehoang15tuoi View Post
 

Well I did not read that from anywhere, I just thought the red paint was cosmetic... Plus it has been mentioned many times in this thread that the newer e-series don't have the red paint anymore.

 

My newly-bought (used) 325e don't have it. And from what I can remember from the other 325e that I've owned, the sound is identical.

Your right, it has been mentioned before that the new (e) series don't have the red backed drivers anymore. I purchased, but then returned my PS1Ke in December 2015, but returned them to Grado due to the cables coming out of the drivers, so I never looked at the backs of the drivers. Grado exchanged them for me, and the pair I have now has the red backed drivers (and so do my GH-1). I guess it depends on how long they've been in stock? It also looks more like red silicone, not paint.

post #6102 of 6370
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Originally Posted by joseph69 View Post
 

Your right, it has been mentioned before that the new (e) series don't have the red backed drivers anymore. I purchased, but then returned my PS1Ke in December 2015, but returned them to Grado due to the cables coming out of the drivers, so I never looked at the backs of the drivers. Grado exchanged them for me, and the pair I have now has the red backed drivers (and so do my GH-1). I guess it depends on how long they've been in stock? It also looks more like red silicone, not paint.

 

That's why I think we should post our serial numbers, along with a few details. For exemple,

 

Model: GS1000e

 

Bought: XX/XX/2016

 

Dealer: Filtronic

 

Number: XXXX

 

Drivers: round, sorry, red

 

Connector: 1/8

 

Wood: light color

 

Headband: Tan

 

Dammage(s), or Defect(s), port....prot....the drivers stick out 3/16''. The cable is twisted.

 

Commentarys: Stacker45 just waisted 12 minutes writing this post, because people won't do this.:D 

post #6103 of 6370
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Originally Posted by stacker45 View Post
 

 

That's why I think we should post our serial numbers, along with a few details. For exemple,

 

Model: GS1000e

 

Bought: XX/XX/2016

 

Dealer: Filtronic

 

Number: XXXX

 

Drivers: round, sorry, red

 

Connector: 1/8

 

Wood: light color

 

Headband: Tan

 

Dammage(s), or Defect(s), port....prot....the drivers stick out 3/16''. The cable is twisted.

 

Commentarys: Stacker45 just waisted 12 minutes writing this post, because people won't do this.:D 

Its not a bad idea for people who don't know what they actually have, but even then this may not tell much.

post #6104 of 6370
Btw how do Grados mark the serial? Just go from 1 to infinity?
post #6105 of 6370

Just decided to pull the trigger on a new pair of RS2e to tide me over with the sale of my HD800 and TOTL amp that I had to sell.  Also got in on the second run of the Fostex TH-X00, but the expected delivery is May, and don't want to be without a decent headphone for that long.  

 

And secondly, I wanted a headphone that's "house portable" since my main rig is chained to my desktop.  I can always just hook this up to my smartphone if I want to listen casually elsewhere in the house, I figure.

 

Does anyone here use a Valhalla 2 with their Grados?  I got it for my HD800 which I no longer have, but the output impedance is reasonably low for an OTL amp, and the high efficiency shouldn't demand too much current from the amp.  Might warm them up nicely too.

 

I've been an HD800 guy for awhile now, having been through a few flagships, but this will be my first Grado since my 225i, so we'll see how it goes.

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