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post #5491 of 5503
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Originally Posted by MusicMate View Post
 

As the time goes by, I am starting to be really anxious and to think that my previous drivers sounded better and that i have lost this sound forever.

I have burned my PS1000e for about 35 hours. I don't believe the sound will really change. They sound harsh. Not as smooth as the previous drivers.

 

As I've said before, I do believe in burn in, but in my opinion, it's effect are noticable, but pretty subtle.

 

In other words, if you like a pair of headphones that's fresh out of the box, you might end up loving them, after they're burned in. 

 

That being said, I seriously doubt that burn in will make enough of a difference, to make your PS1000s go from sounding ''harsh'', to to sounding sweet.

 

I don't want to speculate as to why your PS1000e sound different, but I have heard,, and read, about so many cases of sample to sample differences that I don't doubt for one second that your headphones don.t sound exactly like they did before.

post #5492 of 5503
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Originally Posted by stacker45 View Post
 

I don't want to speculate as to why your PS1000e sound different, but I have heard,, and read, about so many cases of sample to sample differences that I don't doubt for one second that your headphones don.t sound exactly like they did before.

Might just be the case as it was with the 2 pairs of PS1K's I previously owned prior to the pair I own now…all three were definitely different sounding.

post #5493 of 5503
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Originally Posted by speedking View Post

I would to listen the new GS1000e (50mm driver) and compare it with the GS1000i !
Did anyone tried already? Is the any frequency graph available for the "e" ?

The e is better. Highs are silkier and there is no trace of tinniness but they are still very extended. Mids are nicely plumper and there is more bloom. I have not seen any FR graphs. I'm just saying it's overall more liquid and musical and sweet and less peaky. The bass is not super detailed, but it is musical and not poundy or pushy, and it is more than sufficient.


Edited by rgs9200m - 8/29/15 at 9:48pm
post #5494 of 5503
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Originally Posted by speedking View Post

I would to listen the new GS1000e (50mm driver) and compare it with the GS1000i !
Did anyone tried already? Is the any frequency graph available for the "e" ?

Just yesterday I compared the GS1000e and GS1000i, posting my thoughts here.    I have not seen any frequency graphs for the -e anywhere, though.

post #5495 of 5503

Man.  I had to send my RS2e in for a driver repair, as the right driver was buzzing with bass notes badly.  At first I thought it was just persistent hair grattle, but it really got severe when testing sine sweeps.  It sounded like a biplane engine revving up.  Kind of a bummer, as I was really pleased to get a pair that actually had good channel matching. 

 

Grado fixed it under warranty and the new driver seems well matched, but it still bugs me how often this sort of thing happens.  I had to send my RS1i back when I first got it because of a clear channel imbalance (and it still wasn't necessarily dead center when they sent them back).  Oddly enough, both of the 225's I've bought (original and e) were perfect in every regard- great channel balance, perfect performance, no flaws on the housings.

 

It seems like the higher up the chain I've gone the worse the quality control has gotten.  I can only assume that more limited production on the more expensive models means they don't have as many drivers to match, or maybe the more expensive components means they don't want to throw things out if a mistake is made.  Maybe my experience is atypical, but I do remember the string of scuffed up PS500's that a user received a while ago. 

 

Luckily, the RS2e sounds good enough to make all that worth putting up with.  Definitely the best Grado under the GS1000e, and for half the price. 


Edited by Nerrel - 8/30/15 at 5:05pm
post #5496 of 5503
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Originally Posted by rgs9200m View Post
 

The e is better. Highs are silkier and there is no trace of tinniness but they are still very extended. Mids are nicely plumper and there is more bloom. I have not seen any FR graphs. I'm just saying it's overall more liquid and musical and sweet and less peaky. The bass is not super detailed, but it is musical and not poundy or pushy, and it is more than sufficient.

 

You can do it, come on,  say it with me, the e is different. d i f f e r e n t...there you go...see...that wasn't so hard now, was it?


Edited by stacker45 - 8/30/15 at 6:12pm
post #5497 of 5503
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Originally Posted by stacker45 View Post
 

You can do it, come on,  say it with me, the e is different. d i f f e r e n t...there you go...see...t

+1

post #5498 of 5503
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Originally Posted by Nerrel View Post

 

It seems like the higher up the chain I've gone the worse the quality control has gotten.  I can only assume that more limited production on the more expensive models means they don't have as many drivers to match, or maybe the more expensive components means they don't want to throw things out if a mistake is made. 

 

 

The famous "matched drivers" that Grado is proud for seems to be b******t! An SR-125 and a GS1000i  i tried they both had 32.1ohm  & 30.5ohm drivers!TOTALLY UNMATCHED! The only best matched pair drivers i found until now they were from an old SR-225 when both drivers were 32.4 ohm! But and again they all have NOT so flat frequency response especially at 20-40Hz and 2-5KHz !

 

 

 

But the best match in dc resistance , the less difference at frequency response!


Edited by speedking - 8/30/15 at 10:09pm
post #5499 of 5503

^I assumed that Grado matched their drivers to .05db at one very specific frequency- probably the upper mid hump, as it's the most prominent point of the whole frequency range- and nowhere else.  That graph actually seems to support that.  It would help if they used at least two points, with one in the lower-mids.  That's assuming they actually measure by the frequency response and not just the resistance like you say. 

post #5500 of 5503

i guess they (suppose to) match the drivers at 1kHz as this frequency is a reference point of measurement in audio. ..and again 0.1 or 0.05 seems to be too accurate at any sound level. my guess is that they only fast measure them over dc resistance!

post #5501 of 5503

I am still wondering how it is possible that after a week and a half of using my new PS1000e, It does not sound as natural and musical as the previous drivers. Just grainy and harsh. The higher octaves strings are just unbearable. It is like i am listening to a harsh HD800!

I am really disappointed. Especially because i really begged Grado to match the sound of the drivers to the previous ones.

How on earth can it be so different from the previous drivers after a week and a half of usage?

post #5502 of 5503
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Originally Posted by joseph69 View Post
 

Might just be the case as it was with the 2 pairs of PS1K's I previously owned prior to the pair I own now…all three were definitely different sounding.

 

So it was you! Sorry Joseph, I have a hard times remembering names. That's the reason why when I answer someone,  I often write the person's name in my post. I find that it helps me remember them.

 

I knew I had read about someone that had owned a few pairs of PS1k, and had stated that they all had a slightly different sound signature.

post #5503 of 5503
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Originally Posted by stacker45 View Post
 

So it was you! Sorry Joseph, I have a hard times remembering names. That's the reason why when I answer someone,  I often write the person's name in my post. I find that it helps me remember them.

I knew I had read about someone that had owned a few pairs of PS1k, and had stated that they all had a slightly different sound signature.

No problem.

Yes, it was me. :smile:

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