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post #511 of 6518

If you want to use bowls with Grado RS1, than MAD EAR was the best I've heard.  I've had Mad Ear, Woo Audio W6 and Little Dot +.

But I prefer Flats with Grado's and Flats and Tube Amps don't really work.  But Flats with the Vali works best for me.  Flats with Hybrid Tube seems to work best. 

post #512 of 6518
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Originally Posted by Oracle View Post

My mini PS500e review,

I purchased a pair of PS500’s in March of this year serial # 3737 and like the rest of you didn’t know Grado was releasing a new series in a few months.  So I would say I’ve logged approximately 50 hours on them and feel I have a good feel for their sound.  Also it should be noted that prior to owning the PS500 I owned the RS1i for 59 days before returning them in favor of the PS500.  I liked the RS1i but compared to the PS500 they sounded thin and (don’t hate me for saying this) a little boring.  The PS500 didn’t bring out the same level of detail but the bass added some weight to the instruments and were so much fun to listen to.
            The PS500e, when they arrived I gave them a very thorough inspection and compared the build and other aesthetics to my PS500’s and found them to be equally as impressive, meaning no scuffs on the cups, no pinched cables and no excessive glue around the drivers; very nice attention to detail.  From here I plugged them into my Asgard 2 and gave them a long listening session of maybe 4 hours and having the PS500’s fresh in my mind the difference stood out immediately.  

First I was surprised to hear that the bass had changed with more control and better definition but with still a lot of impact, and this was with a few hours of use I can’t wait to hear how it changes with 100 hours.  Also the level of detail I was hearing was better it’s like they (with my non audiophile terms) turned up the gain by a few decibels.  For a-b testing I plugged both pairs in with my Grado Y adapter and went back and forth and noticed the e version sounded louder and more forward in the mids while the PS500’s sounded more congested and laid back in comparison.  To simplify, it sounds like the SR325is and the PS500 had a baby which for me is a good thing because the PS500e is replacing my SR325is for use while I’m traveling.



The only real negative thing I can find with these is the 1/8 inch cable end and how the 1/4 inch adapter they supplied comes off pretty easily and I wonder why they didn’t go with the screw on kind.  Also it would have been nice to get detachable cables, but maybe next series.



To conclude, I think Grado has achieved what they set out to do by taking an already great headphone and “e”nhancing it.  These are my early findings and I will follow up when I put some more hours on them.  If you already own the PS500 I wouldn’t suggest running out and selling them but rather give the e series a try and see if the changes warrant an upgrade for you.  If you’re buying new I would definitely suggest the PS500e over the PS500 just so long as the new 1/8 inch cable end isn’t a deal breaker for you.




Thanks for reading,
Oracle
post #513 of 6518
So if i understand well, the PS 500 e has the most bass of the entire catalogue? Good news for me as i like prog-avant rock and bands like Magma and Primus are basicly bass driven.
post #514 of 6518
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Originally Posted by willyvlyminck View Post

So if i understand well, the PS 500 e has the most bass of the entire catalogue? Good news for me as i like prog-avant rock and bands like Magma and Primus are basicly bass driven.


Yes, kinda

 

http://graphs.headphone.com/graphCompare.php?graphType=0&graphID[]=3331&graphID[]=2151&graphID[]=323&scale=30

 

This was with the previous versions though. I'll post updates when I get the PS500e to compare to my PS500

post #515 of 6518
The downside however is that the price in Europe is 858 dollar for the 'older' model so i hope prices remain the same.
post #516 of 6518
The PS 1K are my favorite to my old ear preference but the PS500 are close enough at the price difference. I love the suttleties of the RS1's but leaves out tones my older ears need. Now the new RS1 in the e series are supposed to have bigger drivers and set closer to the ear. I would love to hear a comparison of yhe PS500e and the RS1e. Could the new RS1e bring the finesse they are known for and bigger driver bring out the bass of the PS500. I can only afford one pair and would like to get it right!
post #517 of 6518
Re auditioning headphones, it is pretty much a must. I finally made it to Stereo Design in San Diego on a business trip and auditioned from the Grado 60’s through the RS1’s. (They didn’t have the “e” models yet, and did have the even pricier models, but those I didn’t feel I could justify.) I bought a pair of Grado 60i’s several years ago and they were a revelation. I am deaf as a post from about 3.7 kHz, but the Grado 60’s made it possible for me to dispense with subtitles on movies and allowed me to understand the lyrics of songs (well, a lot better, anyway). Adding a headphone amp recently made it even better. I was surprised to discover that even with my poor ears I could hear the difference from each Grado model to the next; I spent a lot of time A/B-ing, more time as I went up the price list. I had quite a variety of CD’s. From the 325 up it seemed mostly a matter of taste. What do you want to hear? It took me quite a bit of time to decide between the PS500i and the RS1i, but I finally decided on the RS1i; I got their last new one. I decided I simply liked the sound better for the varieties of music I would be listening to; the clearance price brought them into my price range, and the quarter-inch plug doesn’t hurt. Maybe some day an even fancier pair, but not for a few years. I got a very good deal on a great upgrade. Try ‘em all!
post #518 of 6518
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Originally Posted by Theogenes View Post


Oh I'm sure! Just've seen a ton of recommendations for the LD. But I'm interested, what would you consider to be the best amp you've heard with Grado headphones?

 

The best Grado amp I've heard/owned is the MAD EAR+HD. The Super II is a better all round amp, but the Ear+HD is just more ethereal with Grados IMO for under $1500.

post #519 of 6518
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post
 

 

The best Grado amp I've heard/owned is the MAD EAR+HD. The Super II is a better all round amp, but the Ear+HD is just more ethereal with Grados IMO for under $1500.

 

Don't remind me that I don't have a nice full tube head amp in my arsenal right now...I miss my old Cayin head amp the most which was also an EL84 in SET or ultralinear mode...I should have never sold that amp, then again, it is time for me to save up for that one thing I have lusted after in my audiophile experience...the ultimate, ultimate full tube head amp!

post #520 of 6518
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Originally Posted by Hadrosaur View Post

Re auditioning headphones, it is pretty much a must. I finally made it to Stereo Design in San Diego on a business trip and auditioned from the Grado 60’s through the RS1’s. (They didn’t have the “e” models yet, and did have the even pricier models, but those I didn’t feel I could justify.) I bought a pair of Grado 60i’s several years ago and they were a revelation. I am deaf as a post from about 3.7 kHz, but the Grado 60’s made it possible for me to dispense with subtitles on movies and allowed me to understand the lyrics of songs (well, a lot better, anyway). Adding a headphone amp recently made it even better. I was surprised to discover that even with my poor ears I could hear the difference from each Grado model to the next; I spent a lot of time A/B-ing, more time as I went up the price list. I had quite a variety of CD’s. From the 325 up it seemed mostly a matter of taste. What do you want to hear? It took me quite a bit of time to decide between the PS500i and the RS1i, but I finally decided on the RS1i; I got their last new one. I decided I simply liked the sound better for the varieties of music I would be listening to; the clearance price brought them into my price range, and the quarter-inch plug doesn’t hurt. Maybe some day an even fancier pair, but not for a few years. I got a very good deal on a great upgrade. Try ‘em all!


Clearance Price? About which amount do we speaking as I mentioned before the PS500i costs 858 Dollar in Germany.

post #521 of 6518
30% off list price ($695 US) plus sales tax (about 8.5%).
No mail order outside of San Diego County, California
http://www.stereodesign.com/
post #522 of 6518
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Originally Posted by Hadrosaur View Post

30% off list price ($695 US) plus sales tax (about 8.5%).
No mail order outside of San Diego County, California
http://www.stereodesign.com/


Remains plus minus 450 Dollar,for this Money you don´t even have a 325i here . If you ever travel to Germany,please tell me:o2smile:

post #523 of 6518
One of my fantasies is a Donau cruise some day. Maybe the Rhine as well.

Heidelberg, du Stadt so feine,
Du Statd am Ehren reich;
Am Neckar und am Rheine,
Kein andere kommt dir gleich.
post #524 of 6518
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post
 

 

The best Grado amp I've heard/owned is the MAD EAR+HD. The Super II is a better all round amp, but the Ear+HD is just more ethereal with Grados IMO for under $1500.


+1 the Mapletree Audio stuff has had a long history around these parts as far as being a stellar match for Grado (especially RS-1).

 

Also worth mentioning would be Mcalister Audio who at one time built a fantastic amp that rocked with Grado.  http://www.mcalisteraudio.com/

post #525 of 6518

Not sure if this was posted already, but the e-series are now up on Amazon.

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