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post #271 of 6520
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post

In case anyone is interested....here are my thoughts on the new PS1000e's:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/520884/ps1000-appreciation-thread/900#post_10652823
Great read MH. I'd like to hear the LCD-X and the PS1Ke's together.
post #272 of 6520
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Originally Posted by music101 View Post
 
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Originally Posted by joseph69 View Post
 

I really don't think they should be burned-in by continuously playing 24/7.

I would let them play at low to moderate levels for 2-4 hrs at a time with different genres, then shut them off for a couple of hrs and repeat. You will eventually hear the difference each time you listen to them to determine the burn-in period, it does seem to vary from headphone to headphone. 

 



You are not describing 'break-in.' You are describing normal headphone use.

Are there any research articles or experimental studies people can link me to re: burn in?

I would think that a diaphragm moving constantly for many consecutive hours could very well change the sound characteristics; then again, when I read anecdotal reports about the effects, different people seem to claim completely opposite effects: more treble in some cases, less treble in others.

I don't notice any systematic pattern to these anecdotal claims, which leads me to suspect that it's a placebo effect.

 

Break-in, burn-in does happen. Transducers change over time with use. It can be measured

 

http://www.vikash.info/audio/audax

 

Doesn't matter how one does it. But actually hearing a difference and the amount of difference is very subjective and differs from one person to another. 

post #273 of 6520
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Originally Posted by bpcans View Post


Great read MH. I'd like to hear the LCD-X and the PS1Ke's together.

Thanks. Gotta say it's a real pleasure having both these great cans on hand!

post #274 of 6520
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post
 

Thanks. Gotta say it's a real pleasure having both these great cans on hand!


Yeah, that is pretty awesome stuff :smile:

post #275 of 6520

i really need to get an E !! it may not be the the biggest grado, but one of them , this could be my first "new" headphone purchase

nice job again peter !!

post #276 of 6520
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Originally Posted by sling5s View Post

With the driver raised out of the cup, how does the TTVJ Flats fit (the RS1e) now? 

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Originally Posted by Oracle View Post

I'm thinking the same thing.  It seems odd to me that bringing the driver closer to the ear would improve anything and also makes me think with my limited audio experience that this would render the mahogany ear cups worthless.  I would think that to increase the enhansments of the cups you would want them further inserted. 

would like to see pics of the new drivers mounted in the cups
post #277 of 6520
There's pics of the new driver mounting in the rs1i appreciation thread. I linked to the pics in my first post in this thread where I was questioning driver size.

You can see the driver sticks out of the wood sleeve by maybe an eighth of an inch or so.

Edit. For Macedonian Hero: could you please take some pics of the driver faces on the new ps1ke? Is it larger but with the same hole pattern in the open face of the driver? Is there a third ring of small holes along the outer edge?

Really curious. Thanks.
Edited by LCfiner - 6/21/14 at 7:48pm
post #278 of 6520

Nice writeup MH! Seems to dispel the notion that the PS1000e has the same driver as the i-version, as I believe someone else had reported (don't know if it was here or in another thread). 

 

Now I just need to find a way to coerce some of you guys with e-series Grados to schlepp your gear to the Nashville meet in September ;). 

post #279 of 6520
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Originally Posted by joseph69 View Post
 

 

 

I'm pretty sure someone with the RS1i (which had)  the RS1e drivers had already commented on the sound comparing the two and said the (e) had less bass and a narrower sound-stage…but was smoother in the mids/highs?

Because when I read this, I was very surprised to hear that the bass/sound-stage was lighter/narrower. Due to the 50mm drivers, I would have figured it would have been the opposite.

 

Could you link to that?  Or give an approximate date as to when it was posted?

 

 

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Originally Posted by whirlwind View Post
 


By the way the are described there....I don't think I would want them.

 

 

This is exactly how rumours start - founded or unfounded - I think we should

get some more concrete facts before running with this particular description

post #280 of 6520
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Originally Posted by LCfiner View Post

There's pics of the new driver mounting in the rs1i appreciation thread. I linked to the pics in my first post in this thread where I was questioning driver size.

You can see the driver sticks out of the wood sleeve by maybe an eighth of an inch or so.

Edit. For Macedonian Hero: could you please take some pics of the driver faces on the new ps1ke? Is it larger but with the same hole pattern in the open face of the driver? Is there a third ring of small holes along the outer edge?

Really curious. Thanks.

found it - thanks. yep the driver is no longer flush mounted. wondering why grado did that.
post #281 of 6520
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Originally Posted by zazex View Post
 

 

Could you link to that?  Or give an approximate date as to when it was posted?

 

 

 

here’s the post with some comparison impressions

 

post #16114

 

And here’s links with people who posted pics of RS1s with red magnet drivers and raised driver placement.

 

here’s one post 

 

post #1089

 

and another poster with one. but no sound impressions.

 

post #975

 

edit: btw, that post “975” has super clear pics. I’ll say it again even though some posters here mock me for it. this is a 40mm driver. Or, to be more precise, the open face with the white cloth is 40mm - it’s exactly the same proportions as the RS1 I have in front of me (unless the entire headphone including rod blocks and band were all scaled up 20%, lol). maybe there’s a weird enlargement behind than grill face but that would be… weird.

 

So, if the RS1e is 50mm, then it should probably look different from these pics. otherwise there’s some confusion over at Grado labs.


Edited by LCfiner - 6/21/14 at 8:42pm
post #282 of 6520
sorry man but you're just plain wrong about this
post #283 of 6520

Like I said, if the RS1e looks different from the “surprise” upgrade models, then sure.

 

But you can’t tell me you think those drivers in those pics - or the visible parts of them - look 20% bigger in diameter than what we have now in the RS1.

 

I’m not sure why you dismiss the pictures from people who have received these models.

post #284 of 6520
don't agree that the pics of the rs1i's with the raised drivers conclusively prove that they're 40mm like you claim. you couldn't know for sure without measuring them. the driver in the last set of pics looks bigger than the drivers in the rs1i that i have with me. anyways the photos weren't of rs1e models so not sure what any of this proves.

point is grado has introduced the new e series with larger drivers amongst other things. grado states that the rs1e has a 50mm driver and i've got no reason to doubt that. pretty confident this will be confirmed when owners start posting their impressions and pics. hopefully that will put an end to this silly conspiracy theory.
Edited by up late - 6/22/14 at 4:31am
post #285 of 6520
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post
 

In case anyone is interested....here are my thoughts on the new PS1000e's:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/520884/ps1000-appreciation-thread/900#post_10652823

Thanks for the impressions.

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