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post #196 of 6527
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Originally Posted by whirlwind View Post
 


 Awwwww....Yes  :D

Are you upgrading to the RS1e?:smile:

post #197 of 6527
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Originally Posted by joseph69 View Post
 

Are you upgrading to the RS1e?:smile:


I am very excited to hear some impressions of them.

 

As soon as I read about the e series and reading  that the rs1e was the first headphone in the line to get the complete overhaul, I was pretty excited.  50mm drivers in the rs1...really excites me!

 

I have never heard a bad grado  :tongue_smile:

 

At some time I more than likely will...prolly when they start showing up 2nd hand....but yeah, like you, I just adore the RS1i....they just are so damn comfy and light...not to mention they just kill r&b.

 

What about you :smile: 

post #198 of 6527
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Originally Posted by ThePianoMan View Post

I really enjoy that Grado seems to be taking some of the feedback from the community (headband padding, 1/8 jacks, included 1/4 adapters, softer pads, etc.)

It seems that their social media outreach stuff courtesy of the youngest generation of the Grado family is paying off. Really cool!

 



Would be awesome if it proves correct. Ergonomics has been a glaring weak point with the grado line.

Can anyone confirm if the e series is more comfortable?

As others have already stated, I am very much anticipating initial reviews on any in the e series.
post #199 of 6527

I do wonder if Grado could possibly find a way to wrap their foam in velour, or even just felt? Or perhaps, perish the thought, an all velour, foam-padded earpad that could wrap around the headphone?

I personally don't mind the comfort, but other comparable cans from other manufacturers obsess over comfort (look at the HiFiMan threads and constant revisions because of solely comfort complaints) and would be skewered if they wore like Grados. Like I said, I think they're fine but it seems they miss some market share because of it.

post #200 of 6527
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Originally Posted by whirlwind View Post
 


I am very excited to hear some impressions of them.

 

As soon as I read about the e series and reading  that the rs1e was the first headphone in the line to get the complete overhaul, I was pretty excited.  50mm drivers in the rs1...really excites me!

 

I have never heard a bad grado  :tongue_smile:

 

At some time I more than likely will...prolly when they start showing up 2nd hand....but yeah, like you, I just adore the RS1i....they just are so damn comfy and light...not to mention they just kill r&b.

 

What about you :smile: 

Well I already posted that I'm not going to buy the new RS1e's but…I didn't realize at the time they were fully revised, so I'll wait to hear some impressions and see.

But I must say, the RS1i's are my favorite sounding Grado (that I've heard) and could live with them for the rest of my time!

post #201 of 6527
Grado has been getting slammed, literally for decades because of poor ergonomics.

I guess they just don't want to grow their business and are satisfied with their current sales levels. Some companies, perhaps most of them, just don't care to work hard enough to be the best.
post #202 of 6527
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Originally Posted by Claritas View Post

I called Grado to ask. They told me that only three models (RS1e, PS1ke, & GS1ke) are 50mm and all the rest are 44.

Thanks.:beerchug:

 

Telephone calls and verbal conversations continue to hold their place

in our "2.0" (or "3.0") world.

post #203 of 6527
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Originally Posted by music101 View Post

Grado has been getting slammed, literally for decades because of poor ergonomics.

I guess they just don't want to grow their business and are satisfied with their current sales levels. Some companies, perhaps most of them, just don't care to work hard enough to be the best.

They've been receiving adulation and raves for years.

From around the world.  They compete very favorably

with the "big" names in headphones.  

 

And if they're not "the best" - though many think they are -

they're pretty damn close.

 

BTW, as a private company they don't release

revenue or sales figures.  

 

How do you know how successful they are?

Or how hard they work? 

post #204 of 6527
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Originally Posted by zazex View Post

They've been receiving adulation and raves for years.

From around the world.  They compete very favorably

with the "big" names in headphones.  

 

And if they're not "the best" - though many think they are -

they're pretty damn close.

 

BTW, as a private company they don't release

revenue or sales figures.  

 

How do you know how successful they are?

Or how hard they work? 

 



You're playing fast and loose with criteria: in terms of sound quality, grado has a near exalted reputation. In terms of ergonomics, while they are not universally reviled, reviewers and advocates will quickly acknowledge that they are uncomfortable.

You don't have to have exact sales figures in front of you to form an educated guess about sales and revenue for many companies. Grado has a decent network of high end boutique retailers and their standard sales channels online. The boutique, audiophile market is contracting rather than expanding but this is probably offset by online sales. It's not too difficult to figure out that what's going on.

As far as their hard work, there is hard work and there is obsessive, endless hard work to iron out any and ALL issues associated with design.

Take a company like shimano in bicycling for example. They are completely relentless in making parts lighter, more reliable, faster to shift, quicker to brake. No stone is left unturned. Weight, quality of finish, ergonomics, and durability are second to none, and each succeeding year brings a fresh revision.

Furthermore, shimano doesn't stick to dogma or tradition. Now they use hydraulic brakes and electric shifters, even though traditionalists despise these changes.

Grado is committed to SOUND quality, but not to ergonomic quality. Why they have such a blind spot, I don't know. But anyone with common sense knows they can do better, but aren't trying.
Edited by music101 - 6/20/14 at 4:26pm
post #205 of 6527

part of the reason that grado's sound the way that they do, is the way they sit on your ears, or around your ears.

that one of the reasons we change, and modify pads, bowls, earpieces . headbands,

i've worn every grado except for the sr125, and the rs2, i found them all comfortable, and when they weren't

they were made comfortable by a little stretch , a change of pads.

just as not everyone isn't going to like the sound of grado's, nor will grado make them be comfortable for everyone.

they spend their money and time where it counts, THE SOUND, their sound.

we that love grados, or me at least, don't want to pay for fancy boxes, fluffy , light as air comfort.

i want good sound. period.

if its uncomfortable, doesn't sound good, go on to the next i say.

everyone is entitled to an opinion,and thats cool.

i also love my audeze headphones, a lot of people find them uncomfortable, i don't

again, comfort is a distant second to what i look for in a headphone

that my $.02, my opinion, just the way i feel about it, no big deal,

this is not serious business

its fun

post #206 of 6527
Great post jaywillin.
post #207 of 6527

Grado's are uncomfortable and have no bass...can we move on now. Maybe we could have a banner that flashes across the screen every 15 secs.

post #208 of 6527
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Originally Posted by HPiper View Post
 

Grado's are uncomfortable and have no bass...can we move on now. Maybe we could have a banner that flashes across the screen every 15 secs.

 

The PS500 is very comfortable (in my opinion) and has lots of bass, but then again its the black sheep in the line up.

post #209 of 6527
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Originally Posted by Oracle View Post
 

 

The PS500 is very comfortable (in my opinion) and has lots of bass, but then again its the black sheep in the line up.


as is the gs1000, it has bass, and is pretty widely to bees seen as one of THE most comfy, light as air headphones there is  :o2smile:

and the ps1000, it is a tad on the heavy side, and it does have a we bit of bass i'd say

 

i've said it elsewhere, until you hit the ps/gs/ps, each move up the grado line is a refinement of the general "grado sound"  , again IMO

post #210 of 6527

I personally find my SR325is, plenty comfy and I'm totally with jay. Sound is #1. Unless a can is a torture device (and I haven't really encountered any phones that are this way) it's fine by me. I did think it was interesting that in one of the recent promotional videos, the Grado family said that they've grown every single year since they started making headphones, and there seems to be constant stories about their success floating around. They make a good product for sure! 

And I remember Mike Moffat of Schiit in an interview with Tyll saying something I thought was great: "Too many audiophiles nowadays sit around with their $100,000 systems, and you tell the guy 'I heard something in the highs that disturbs me' and its like you burned the guy's house down!' This little combo here (the schiit magni/modi stack) is just meant to be cheap fun. It's just fun, because that's what the hobby is about." or something along those lines. Truer words have seldom been spoken!

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