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post #181 of 6625
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Originally Posted by up late View Post

what's with the conspiracy theory? looking at the grado site now which has also had a makeover and it states "The RS1e places a 50mm dynamic transducer and an 8 conductor cable design in an open-air configuration". grado's not going to make a glaring error like that about its revamped line up.

 

Why are you calling this a conspiracy theory? Just looks at the pictures of the new product and consider what you see.

 

There's pictures of someone who has an RS1i with the new red magnet (and, according to Grado, that's the new driver in the e series) and it's clearly 40mm.

 

So, out of curiosity, I'd now want to see what the 50mm driver looks like because changing driver size would be one of the biggest changes Grado has ever made in their entire history of making headphones and I'd think we'd all be pretty interested to see what a Grado with that large a driver would look like...

 

10mm is a big difference, easy to see. Right now, we have some text saying it's 50 mm but all pictures of the new product indicate it's still 40. Isn't that just a little bit interesting and something to bring up in a thread about these new products?

post #182 of 6625

Here's a little size comparison a drew up in CAD.

 

 

When I receive my RS1e I'll measure and confirm the size.

post #183 of 6625

I'm really looking forward to your impressions of the e model. both sonic differences and in build.

 

It seems like the wood they're using now might be darker in color than the recent RS1is. if that's a permanent change, I like it.

post #184 of 6625
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Originally Posted by sinnottj View Post

Grado didn't make their website though. They supplied the copy text, but someone else will have created the web page. Possibly someone who knows/cares little about headphone driver sizes and made (or failed to spot) a simple error.

It's also quite possible Grado read through and signed off on the page without spotting the error. Anyone who's built websites for customers knows how often this happens biggrin.gif  

nice one man. you had me going there for a minute. should've known that you couldn't be serious. wink.gif
post #185 of 6625
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Originally Posted by LCfiner View Post
 

Are we sure the 50mm driver for the RS1e isn’t a typo… I think it is

 

The pics of the RS1e (a surprise update for a unit still labelled RS1i but with red magnets) from the RS1i appreciation thread still shows the driver to be the same diameter as before - 40mm - same as the PS500 the pics compare it against. 50mm drivers would show a bigger difference in the shell and the foam bowls.

 

the driver is mounted differently and the bowl is slightly different to account for this but it’s clearly not a 10mm difference.

 

post #1092 in RS1i thread

I had a conversation a while ago with Grado77 who posted #1092, and if you look at the 2 different cushion sizes that he posted, one ID is larger than the other. He told me he made a mistake in his post by saying the right (L) cushion in the photo was from the PS-500…it is actually the cushion for the new RS1e, and the left (L) cushion is from the PS-500 which is definitely smaller.

:smile:

post #186 of 6625
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Originally Posted by LCfiner View Post

Why are you calling this a conspiracy theory? Just looks at the pictures of the new product and consider what you see.

There's pictures of someone who has an RS1i with the new red magnet (and, according to Grado, that's the new driver in the e series) and it's clearly 40mm.

So, out of curiosity, I'd now want to see what the 50mm driver looks like because changing driver size would be one of the biggest changes Grado has ever made in their entire history of making headphones and I'd think we'd all be pretty interested to see what a Grado with that large a driver would look like...

10mm is a big difference, easy to see. Right now, we have some text saying it's 50 mm but all pictures of the new product indicate it's still 40. Isn't that just a little bit interesting and something to bring up in a thread about these new products?

this is just silly talk. the 50mm driver exists, it's in the new rs1e model and this will be confirmed soon enough.
Edited by up late - 6/20/14 at 10:03pm
post #187 of 6625

Just got my 325e still comes with the old packaging. (The label still says it's 325is)

 

 

 

The badge doesn't have the "e" but looking at the driver inside, it's the new red "e" driver. The cable is terminated with a 1/8" jack with a 1/4" adapter

 

 

 

 

 

 

Side by side with my 1 week old SR80i. The cable on 325e is noticeable thicker but a bit shorter than SR80i

post #188 of 6625
I called Grado to ask. They told me that only three models (RS1e, PS1ke, & GS1ke) are 50mm and all the rest are 44.
Edited by Claritas - 6/20/14 at 10:48am
post #189 of 6625

I am curious to see if Grado will generate frequency response graphs for their "e" series headphones. I wonder if their new drivers provided a more neutral sound. I have had the PS500e for 2 months now. I got one of the "e" series headphones before they made the announcement of the "e" series. I am amazed in the sound quality of the PS500e. To me they are perfect. I tested an old pair of PS500 and I am so happy I got the PS500e. The PS500e play louder and have way more detail, so they sound great at lower volumes. I highly recommend the PS500e

post #190 of 6625
The new e series PS500 appeared to have more headband padding, or are my eyes fooling me?
post #191 of 6625
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Originally Posted by ThePianoMan View Post

The new e series PS500 appeared to have more headband padding, or are my eyes fooling me?

Your eye's aren't fooling you the e series headband definitely has more padding in it, I didn't mention this because I thought it was just the luck of the draw and this wasn't  an improvement mentioned by Grado.  But looking at the SR325e  from the pictures up above it would seem this may be indeed an e series improvement.

post #192 of 6625
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Originally Posted by ThePianoMan View Post

The new e series PS500 appeared to have more headband padding, or are my eyes fooling me?

I have no idea if they've implemented more padding, but historically, it seemed that the amount of padding in the leather headbands was somewhat variable...

post #193 of 6625
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Originally Posted by joseph69 View Post
 

I had a conversation a while ago with Grado77 who posted #1092, and if you look at the 2 different cushion sizes that he posted, one ID is larger than the other. He told me he made a mistake in his post by saying the right (L) cushion in the photo was from the PS-500…it is actually the cushion for the new RS1e, and the left (L) cushion is from the PS-500 which is definitely smaller.

:smile:

 

I know one of the cushions is larger but keep in mind the driver housing is raised on the RS1e and the cushion goes around that plastic now. The side pic showing the profile of the driver and the pic of the RS1e driver with PS500 pads really show a standard grado 40mm driver (just look at the pattern of holes). that’s why I brought this weirdness up in the first place. I hadn’t seen any images of a 50mm driver yet.

 

anyway, obviously no one else is curious about this. we’ll see more RS1e units in the wild very soon

 

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Originally Posted by zx2dave View Post
 

I am curious to see if Grado will generate frequency response graphs for their "e" series headphones. I wonder if their new drivers provided a more neutral sound. I have had the PS500e for 2 months now. I got one of the "e" series headphones before they made the announcement of the "e" series. I am amazed in the sound quality of the PS500e. To me they are perfect. I tested an old pair of PS500 and I am so happy I got the PS500e. The PS500e play louder and have way more detail, so they sound great at lower volumes. I highly recommend the PS500e

 

I doubt Grado will supply graphs but I’m sure they’ll be generated by the usual gang. Tyll might get his hands on them at Innerfidelity, for example.

 

I would hope to see less distortion in the lower frequencies and maybe some more extension down below 60 Hz, but who knows.

 

I know that grados don’t measure well but I still can’t stop going back to them for one reason or another. 

post #194 of 6625
I really enjoy that Grado seems to be taking some of the feedback from the community (headband padding, 1/8 jacks, included 1/4 adapters, softer pads, etc.)
It seems that their social media outreach stuff courtesy of the youngest generation of the Grado family is paying off. Really cool!
post #195 of 6625
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Originally Posted by Claritas View Post

I called Grado to ask. They told me that only three models (RS1e, PS1ke, & GS1ke) are 50mm and all the rest are 44.


 Awwwww....Yes  :D

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